talencat, we cannot id a rose from just it's foliage. We would need pictures of blooms, thorns, and would need to know if it is fragrant, etc. The more information the better. As for the pink, there are probably hundreds if not thousands of pink roses. We would need the same information. It is a pretty rose, though. The first rose has not bloomed in several months? It may be a once blooming rose. Did you notice any dead blooms on it when you moved there?

I see all leaves and some dead branches , I removed them all . Now it started new leaves .

The pink rose below it has sweet scent and thorn .

Size of the pink rose?

the flower is big as the rice bowl

First one - which is perhaps 'Manettii' - probably arrived there with the desired rose grafted onto it, which has since died.