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I'd put the fridge where you have the corner pantry, and eliminate a corner pantry altogether. Put your wall ovens all the way to the right and a pantry where you drew the fridge.

What are the objects next to the corner pantry and around the corner into the dining room?

The bit around the corner is some kind of coffee bar, either built in or freestanding, for the plumbed in espresso machine (there is already water supply for the fridge there) Probably shelving underneath for my cookbooks. The counter needs to be at least 20" for the machine. Maybe a pony wall there. Maybe not. Definitely open from counter to ceiling in some way.

And I have considered the fridge there and leave a larger opening into the living room. But we currently have a 2' deep pantry..40" wide.. And it really isn't enough pantry space. I always end up putting things on the floor in the dining room. Larger pantry is high on my list of wants and a corner pantry takes advantage of unused wall space.

Could you please post a sketch of the entire floor's layout? It helps us see how traffic flows in and around the Kitchen as well as gives a better picture of how the Kitchen relates to the rest of the house.

Where is your family entrance?

Appliances...

Range...It looks like you put in a 24" range. Do you not plan on upgrading it when it dies? 30" is more common, but there are 24" ranges out there, some even priced reasonably (GE, e.g.) You could even go with a 30" or 36" double-oven range.

Refrigerator...Counter-depth? Standard-depth? Built-in?

Wall Oven...30" oven + speed oven - so, two different ovens? Have you considered a 30" speed oven that can be used as a conventional, convection, or speed?

Microwave...Separate MW?

I've done so many floor plans in so many different programs trying to find one I liked that I'm not surprised I've made an error like putting a 24" range. That should definitely be 30. DH wants 36 but I don't think we need it. The wall oven is 30" convection with some kind of combo oven above. No separate micro if I don't have to. We regularly used 2 ovens when we had the option. And it wasn't unusual for me to wish I had a third. Refrigerator is counter depth now but I use the beverage fridge as overflow so it's really isn't enough either. Standard depth at least (though I've seen a 36" deep 32 cuft one that I love) I originally wanted a fridge only and freezer only next to each other but just don't have the wall space.

As as far as flow goes...the exterior door on the right is our primary ingress and egress for DH, myself. 5 year old and 13 year old, plus many teens and my friends and their kids. We are the house where everyone congregates. The powder room in the laundry room is the only first floor toilet.

The only people that ever use the front door are salespeople.

Oh yeah...buehl...I just realized it was your kitchen pics that inspired my corner pantry.

That's a big laundry room, Couldn't you include space in there for overflow pantry items? Or lop off the laundry entry and set it further back, incorporating floor to ceiling pantry cabinets for the first 4 or 5 feet, or frame in a door with shelves behind? It could be awesome!

The laundry room has a half bath and the hot water heater in and those occupy the full length of the left side with the W/D. We have a shelving system the full length of the right side that is full to the brim with baking and cake decorating supplies, large roasting pans, all manner of craft supplies and school supplies, rain boots, cycling gear and coat hooks since our main entry to the house is there too. Part of getting ready for the reno will be cleaning it all out, but I anticipate getting it from overflowing to tidy but not more.

But wait. There's more. Sigh. One side of the dining room has one of those big giant 5x5 cube store things from ikea. That's number of cubes. Not feet. Full of serving dishes, platters, cake stands and barware that doesn't have a home in the kitchen. We have 30 wine glasses because we need at least a dozen when we have the family for dinners and we host a wine and cheese party every year. Sometimes it's overwhelming. But we do use a lot of it. It's due a clean out too.

Ha! I've just spent today coming up with almost the same thing but just now checking in. Fantastic! Here's mine. No fancy 3D here though. Nice to see it rendered. I don't have a cabinet by the entrance from the LR because I can see it just getting cluttered. Also, I've put the fridge where the pantry currently is because I can recess it and make it look counter depth, regardless of how big it is. Instead, I've put a tall pull out pantry between the oven and fridge to keep cooking oil, broth, tomatoes and other frequently used pantry items.

Also, I have seen talk of 30" deep counters but hadn't thought of it as a potential solution to the DW problem. I'll have to put some thought into that.

Great minds,lol!

I think it would be a lot better if you can spare a foot or so from the DR entry and have a base cab b/w the ovens and the fridge for landing, The upper can be deeper than standard and you can still keep a lot of pantry items. The DR entry can still be about 3' feet I think and with the pass through (or is it a half wall) it can fell a lot more open than what you have now.

Assumed a closet on DR side for the remainder of the old pantry and extended wall.

Looks great! I had forgotten that I won't be able to use the peninsula as drop space since it's so much further down in the new plan. What do you think about having the base cabinet on the end? I'd rather not have the side of the fridge right in front of me when I walk in the house. Cabinets have a more open feeling. And maybe floor to ceiling wine storage in the gap behind the cabinet?

Im not too worried at this point about the small details. I'm just trying to fit all my appliances and pantry and have a general idea of floor plan. We still have to have an architect come out and help us with plans for the permitting. We aren't actually sure which walls are load bearing (we suspect it's the stairs) But we aren't making major changes to any of them so I think we can probably bear the cost regardless.

Thank you so much for your time! By the way, is that chief architect you're using?