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Adura Max vs. COREtec

8 years ago
last modified: 6 years ago

I just spent a few days at the Mannington Adura manufacturing facility 50 miles east of Atlanta Georgia. As I have stated previously, I feel the Adura Max product is superior when compared head to head with other products, including COREtec. After seeing their data, I am more certain of it than ever. Below is what I learned on my trip:

Scratch Resistance:
Adura Max product has an aluminum oxide finish. They are the only company out there who can have this finish on EVP because they hold the patient on the process. When you're talking scratch resistance, Adura Max is going to win hands down compared to any other product on the market - including Coretec. Rating scratch resistance on a scale of 1 to 10, Adura Max comes in at a 9 where standard UV cured urethane (COREtec) comes in at a 4 or below.

Core:
Adura Max HydroLoc core is a higher density core than others on the market. This mean it is less susceptible to dings and dents.

Locking System:
Adura Max premium locking system is waterproof just like the flooring itself. So when things spill, the moisture will not wick down to your sub-floor.

Sound:
Adura Max has a premium ultraquiet closed cell polyethylene attached pad which gives it a IIC Sound rating of 72, where the cork back has a IIC rating of 65. This is critical in multi-tenant applications where sound abatement is critical.

Pricing:
Even with all the solid advantages of the Adura Max listed above, we can sell it to you at the same price of Coretec.

I strive to provide our customers with the very best flooring product available at the very best price possible. Again, I am highly impressed by the Mannington Adura Max product. There isn't anything else on the market that holds a candle to it in my opinion.

Alan Ward
CEO
WeShipFloors.com

Comments (3.6K)

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Mary Elizabeth,


    We have had a heck of a time getting moldings recently. The molding mill was shut down for covid for a long time which got them way behind. "Close match" ones are made here in the US. Some colors they make here are dead on, some are not. We have a LARGE order of moldings on the way that will back fill anything we have been out of. If you ordered molding that we had to get made here and they are not adequate, let us know. We will send you replacements free of charge when the exact match ones arrive. - Alan

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    We received in our Sweet Talker Narrow (SPC060XP) product today and it looks AMAZING!


    Alan

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    SUPERcore Sweet Talker Traditions 4-1/4" x 6 feet x 8mm

    WeShipFloors - Traditions



  • 2 years ago

    So why the narrow plank? Is trend moving away from wide planks?


  • 2 years ago

    "Looking forward to getting all of our colors in on this." ALL of your colors? I second the question above; Is the trend moving away from wide planks? And why the 8mm thickness? Is it because of the length?

  • 2 years ago

    does an 8mm floor feel/sound more solid than a 4mm? Why the different thicknesses?


  • 2 years ago

    Thicker floors do hide subfloor imperfections a little bit easier than thinner floors.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    I have long thought narrow planks look more realistic. We're establishing the trend...

  • 2 years ago

    Narrower planks are for sure getting more popular again. It's a more timeless look too.

  • 2 years ago

    Never was a fan of the narrow planks, I'll stick with wider.

  • 2 years ago

    @WeShipFloors In your youtube video up above with the sweet talker in 4.5 width - what is the flooring to the right of it in the video?

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I am wanting to order a box of one sweet talker from weshippfloors. Almost did and then saw a $400shipping fee for a $100 order. Anyone else experience this?

    Also if you have onesweettalker intstalled, I would love to see pics and hear your imressions. Thanks

  • 2 years ago

    V M,

    You should call the customer service or chat line and they will do a manual order for you,

    for a single box shipped via Fedex ground rate instead.


  • PRO
    2 years ago

    VM - That floor is Asheville SPC054

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    VM - Just call about the one box. The website defaults for a pallet rate on a shipment.

  • 2 years ago

    We have Asheville in the 5G/8mm/5 ft long style.

  • 2 years ago

    Is the Ashville the only 7" x 60" plank size that's 8mm thick? I'm a bit surprised that the price is the same as that of the 6mm thick Chattanooga Hickory,

  • 2 years ago

    @Mary Elizabeth . do you have it installed? do you have pics you can share?


  • 2 years ago

    @V M,

    I have posted regularly throughout this thread. If you go back to comments where the date under each person's name says "last year", and go from there,

    I only had to click once on the "See XXXX more comments" link.

    (Total comments are listed at 3.6K - after I clicked it said "See 3441 more comments". In other words you will only need to scroll thru about 150 or so total.)

    There's one where I posted pictures, and others where I detailed our comparison shopping for other brands, colors, quality and pricing. A few comments when people asked the maximum length & width allowed without transitions, other install questions, etc.

    You will get a better overall idea if you read through it all, rather than me reposting it.

  • 2 years ago

    I’d like to install Supercore in my bathrooms, but I can’t figure out what to do where wall tile meets Supercore. I’m thinking Supercore wouldn’t work due to the needed expansion gap.

  • 2 years ago

    @parasol1, why don't you post a picture of the problem area. All LVP or LVT is required to have an expansion gap. It's usually covered with baseboard and/or shoe moulding.

    We laid ours before any trim work was done, but you also can get an undercut saw to use at doorways, etc.

  • 2 years ago

    Thanks for your interest, Mary Elizabeth. I don’t have a photo because I’m in the planning stage of a complete bathroom renovation. I’d like to tile all the walls ceiling to floor, but then we won’t be able to use baseboard or shoe molding.

    If I decided not to tile all the walls, I’m still curious how we’d handle where the tile shower would meet the floor. Would we run the planks parallel to the shower and caulk the gap? Would we have to cut the edge of the plank to get rid of the locking mechanism?

    I already have Supercore in all rooms except bedrooms and bathrooms, and would love to install it in the bathrooms. But I’m thinking it might be easier to do tile floors.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    If you want to tile the walls, you'd need to undercut the tile in order to make space for the LVT plus expansion space, which means that your tile needs to be greater than 1/4" thickness. Seeing as that most wall tile is thinner than floor tile, you'd have to search a bit for thicker wall tile. Alternatively, if you use thick enough drywall, you could channel the bottom to fit the plank and expansion space. You'll definitely need to come up with a creative solution.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    gotaran,


    We have some items on an overstock list.

  • 2 years ago

    I purchased supercore and it will be delivered soon. Anyone here have an installer they recommend in the Austin TX area?

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    VM,

    There is an installer who has installed SUPERcore several times in the Austin market. Zoe is going to email you his contact info.


    Alan

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Skinny Sweet Talker

    We have the 4-1/4 in stock in Sweet Talker, Gunstock, Barnwood, Natural Red Oak so far.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Whave the natural oak supercore xlt. Do you have shoe moulding to match ?

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    We should have quarter round to match.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    We have launched a new waterproof laminate product we are calling LamiCore. The data on it is amazing!

    - 12mm thickness

    - EIR texture

    - 72 hour waterproof

    - AC5 scratch resistance

    - Floor Score certified


    See it here.


    Alan

  • 2 years ago

    What would be the advantages of this over vinyl plank?

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    cherylbirth,


    It is more scratch resistant and is more forgiving if your subfloor is uneven.


    Alan

  • 2 years ago

    @WeShipFloors, 1) Can/should LamiCore be installed below grade, on a concrete basement floor? And, 2) you previously had a link to a PDF of this discussion, but it failed for me. Would you please post another link, as I'd like to be able to easily see the photos of installed SUPERCore floors. (Or do you have another photo source available?) Thank you!

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Toycar77

    Yes, you can use below grade. If your floor has been wet for over 72 hours, you have bigger problems...

    I downloaded that pdf file years ago. I doubt I have it.

    Alan

  • PRO
    2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    Lami-Core vs Major Name Brand (who states 72 hour protection)

    We totally immersed these in water for 72 hours.

    Here are our in-house results:







    I measured these beside the cuts and beside the locks. This is the worst place for swelling. I have NEVER seen laminate floor with this amount of moisture resistance. This is a game changer.

    Alan.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    We are opening a new showroom on the parkway in Sevierville TN 1st quarter of 2023. If you are planning a vacation to Pigeon Forge/ Gatlinburg / Great Smokey Mountain National Park stop in to say hi


    Alan

  • 2 years ago

    Does anyone have thoughts on comparisons between French oak vs Sweet talker? I didn't see a comparison video on YouTube, and photos on the site didn't give me a ton of clarity. We installed moose lodge in our last house but looking for something with a little less variation and lighter to hide as much as possible with animals, toddlers, and a 70s farmish house. I like the look of Cairo Oak by cortec and looking for something similar. Open to other suggestions as well.

  • PRO
    2 years ago

    Angela,


    If you will call in Zoe will do a facetime with you comparing the two.

    1-844-356-6711


    Alan

  • 2 years ago

    Yes, thanks Alan! I already chatted with her. Customer service as usual is top notch. :)

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I am comparing Mannington Adura Max Swiss Oak Almond with Coretec Dodwell Oak. I have read that dirt and grime get betwenn the ridges in the Coretec and make the floor difficult to clean and therefore the floor appears dirty even after cleaning it. Has anyone experienced this issue with the Coretec Plus line? Does anyone have photos of the Dodwell Oak installed?

  • 2 years ago

    I just wanted to share some install photos. We just finished a kitchen of One Sweet Talker. I love how it looks and I love the wider and longer planks. The customer service was again top notch.
    However, I hate that I have to say this but I feel like I need to share because I wish I'd known. This is our second house with Supercore and we love the company. We just finished the install Thurs. Sunday we had guests over. One of them must have had a rock stuck in their shoe or something. There's now a huge area of scratching. Almost a foot long. It's so disappointing. And I know that maybe other brands would be similar, but it just seems so soon and just under normal wear. 😕 I'll attach pictures in another comment to show how well they show up on this color.

  • 2 years ago

    Here are some close up pictures of the scratches. It has to have been from someone's shoes because it's right by the door and there's nothing else that would have come in contact with the floor there. I'm not badmouthing the company in any way-their customer service is excellent. Just if you're considering this color (it's also the most expensive floor they sell), be aware that it might not be all that durable. Just a bummer that could have happened to anyone with any brand. 🤷🏽‍♀️

  • 2 years ago

    Long scratches, especially straight ones, beg further investigation. Are you 100% certain that all of those scratches are accidental?

  • 2 years ago

    No I can't guarantee it, but I'm not sure how they could be anything but. We don't have pets and all that was there in that spot was a pile of shoes and boots. Admittedly it was a gross day with lots of boots and mud and people in and out and shoes on and off, but it's also mid kitchen. I feel like I would have noticed if someone was being intentional or if there was something large being drug around because we have carefully followed the rules of not dragging things on the floor. But all that to say, I do see your point and no, I can't say that I'm positive what caused it. I'm just bummed about it.

  • 2 years ago
    last modified: 2 years ago

    I would be as well. You might want to call WSF and ask about their suggested procedure to replace planks.

  • 2 years ago

    Wow - that is crazy. I don't know how regular "people traffic" could have done that. I would have to replace those - even my kitchen vinyl LVP - which gets abused like crazy - shows nothing like that.

  • 2 years ago

    Supercore is tough but it is not Superman. Any floor will scratch under rocks and body weight grinding it in. Stuff happens, so just do a board replacement and you will be good as new. There are a ton of folks on YouTube that show just how to do it! I kept some extra planks just in case.

  • 2 years ago

    I've scraped a key and knife on Supercore and it took some real effort to make scratches that would be visible from more than a foot away. The scratches you've shown are extremely surprising to me. They look like an object was dragged across them...and a sharp object at that. Even a stone in a shoe would rarely leave drag marks like that.

  • last year

    @WeShipFloors in this video is the color I circled Oak Natural?

  • PRO
    last year

    Supercore vs. Coretec Plus Premium in a smash test.



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