@cathy P - what is your wall color? This would be great to know if anyone else loves this completed look like I do!! :)

@the_real_dock

The pic of stairs, even though the color upstairs does not match stairs I think they flow well lol.

@seekingflooring Wall color is Sherwin Williams SW6119 Antique White. It has a hint of yellow tone underneath so goes well with French Oak. I think they also have a grey version of French Oak since nowadays grey walls are more trendy :)

Cathy P, your floors look beautiful. French Oak is one of the colors I’m considering ordering, but I’m not sure about the straight edge rather than a bevel. How do you like the look of the straight edge?

@parasol1 I actually like my straight edges, they look seamless and less likely to trap dirts compared to bevel edges...

VM,

Its a continuous pattern, so there is no set amount of identical boards.

Alan

@WeShipFloors

what do you mean by continuous pattern? Are you saying each board is unique?

Hey Alan, when can we expect Krypton in 30 mil? Thanks! :)

VM, continuous means one long pattern (multiple planks long) that then repeats. Depending on how the boards are cut, parts of the pattern will repeat on other boards but most likely on a different part of the board. So you won’t have planks that are identical repeat over and over. You’ll have parts of the pattern repeated but in a way that looks more natural.

recordaras,

It will be a couple months before it arrives.

Alan

VM,

What Nancy was saying above is why I do not do Embossed in Register. I don't want the same 4 or 5 identical planks over and over. I'm not sold on EIR being more realistic at eye level ether. I for sure cant tell the difference.

We're striving to make SUPERcore the absolute best bang for your buck. If there is an improvement that we feel will add value to the product, we will do it immediately. Take aluminum oxide UV coating for instance. It's slightly more abrasion resistant than ceramic bead. As soon as it became available, we started using it.

Alan

As some of your will notice, every single new product we've introduced lately does not have the painted bevel. I'd like some feedback from the group: Bevel or No bevel? Customer feedback overwhelmingly says no bevel.

I'm also not a fan of these 6 foot by 9" planks companies are pushing. I just do not think these floors are very realistic looking, especially in smaller rooms. Because of this, we'll be coming out with some narrower offerings in the near future. I want flooring that mimics what a real wood floor looks like.

Alan

Thanks Alan, our remodel is supposed to start in late October-early November so fingers crossed it gets here by then.

recordaras,

What part of the country do you live? Hopefully by then we'll have our west coast distribution center up and running. If I bring containers into the west coast, it saves me about 3 weeks transit.

recordaras,

I just spoke with the factory. I am moving that purchase order ahead of others. I'll do my best to meet your timeline.

Alan

I was just in the local flooring company today finalizing some tile choices for our new construction home. They will also be laying whatever LVP or SPC flooring we go with. When I was there, a sale rep (or maybe employee) was installing a Solutioncore SPC product display. Do you know how this product compares to the Supercore spc flooring? Pricing was very comparable but solutioncore was coming in just a little bit under supercore. I have not looked at all of their colors yet so do not know how their color choices compare. I did notice the size of planks were the same and it was the same tech of a running pattern. (They also mentioned coming out with the 9" wide plank like you mentioned above...I agree with you on preferring the current size although I'm not a fan of going any narrower.) Input on what to look for on differences?

"I want flooring that mimics what a real wood floor looks like." Uhm, yeah.

I agree regarding the 9" super long planks. They're a fad. Natural sizes are where it's at. Do the folks who install these giant boards have no hallways, closets, etc.? Actually, 6" is probably small enough....or at least that's what the ladies say. Hey, thin planks in a big room or big planks in a small room are problematic no matter which way you look at things.

Oh, and another vote for no bevels, although I'm curious to know whether square edges require a flatter subfloor in order to keep the edges from showing? When real hardwood floors are finished on site, everything is eventually sanded flat, which is impossible with SPC/WPC/etc.

Thanks so much Alan, you guys are amazing. Unfortunately we are East Coast (DC), but I will keep my fingers crossed for everything to work out.

Definitely prefer no bevel, much easier to keep clean. Nice look too.

Junk,

I've never heard of that brand. It's probably a distributors house brand if I had to guess. What to look for is wear layer thickness, UV anti-scratch coating and the stone content of the core itself.

There are different ways of making a "Rigid" plank. Some companies are making a tempered vinyl floor and not SPC. This process is similar to generation 1 LVP vinyl production but it involves heating and cooling multiple times to make the core stiffer. The floor does not have anywhere near the stone content that we have. Our product is 80% calcium carbonate.

Oh yeah, don't think for a moment that the retailer is going to have any idea what the stone content is on their product. Heck, the company claiming the brand probably doesn't even have a clue either because more than likely they are buying it from a broker.

Most don't even know what the wear layer thickness is. We had one company come in the showroom trying to sell us an SPC product. I asked the rep what the wear layer thickness was and he said 20 mil. I asked him how did he know it was that thick and he said that's what he was told. I took one of his samples and dissected it right in front of him and measured the wear layer. It was 10 mils. The rep looked at me amazed that I was able to do that. I told him "You really have no idea what I do, do you"

Alan

Gotoran,

There is still a broken edge, it's not truly square.

I already ordered my flooring (dang it!) but I definitely vote for no bevels. It was a deal breaker on another brand I was looking at before I found Supercore.

Does Supercore’s Rich Earth have bevels?

Tasha,

Yes

Cherylbirth,

Deal breaker meaning you didn't buy the floor because of bevels?

Color is always the biggest deciding factor. There are people who like painted bevels and those who absolutely despise them. What we have noticed is that most people who like bevels will still buy the right color in a non-bevel product. But, people who don't like bevels aren't going to buy a painted bevel floor no matter how great the color!

Alan

Gotoran,

We're talking about FLOOR sizes here..... LOL

@WeShipFloors micro bevel on rich earth? Wish it had none.

I don't mind a microbevel, it's those big painted bevels (like some of the coretec products) that looks super fake and looks like it would catch debris and make cleaning harder.

On the other hand, I don't want a no-bevel floor that the planks aren't the exact same thickness and you end up with minor irregularities in the surface that also catch debris and make cleaning harder!

Which brings me back to my question above; Does a no-bevel (ultra micro) plank require a flatter subfloor? Beveled edges are a ....no pun intended....double edged sword. On real wood floors, the bevel catches the dirt, dust, and debris that might otherwise cause scratches when ground in with shoes. The downside with bevels, at least on wood floors, is that you really need to clean up spills in a hurry in order to prevent damage. With SPC being harder to scratch, lack of bevels isn't as big a deal. In my opinion, folks using bevels to try and trick doubters into believing that the floor is real wood are being silly. My next door neighbor put in some HD rigid vinyl a few weeks ago and it looks absolutely perfect. Nobody would ever bother asking if it's real or fake. They just say it's beautiful. The contractor who installed it didn't have any idea what SPC was or its advantages.

If anyone wants to read this entire thread, here are two pdf files with it all. It's much easier to navigate than this long thread.

Adura Max vs Cortec 1

Adura Max vs Coretec 2

Regarding the bevel, I'd say choose your favorite flooring based on other factors. I was dead set on no bevel after a friend said she thought a bevel would make the floor harder to clean. After months of searching, I went with my favorite that "spoke to me", and it has a bevel! (Provenza "Sweet Talker"). I absolutely love it and cleaning it hasn't been an issue. Bevels are great for a natural or more rustic look and I think they can look more like real wood while the no bevel vinyl looks more sleek and modern.

I deleted my earlier post because there was a little confusion around the labeling on my shipment and I wanted to be sure I was sharing accurate information. Zoe called me first thing this morning and cleared everything up so now I can share photos of the Supercore Sol I just received.

It is very pretty! I am not sure how I like it with the cabinets. I am going to sit with it for a while and if I decide it doesn't work I will paint the cabinets. I decided decorating my whole house around a cabinet color I don't particularly like would be a mistake. So if the cabinets need to change color that can happen. What do you think? would you paint them? I am thinking of a green like this, https://www.heirloomtraditionspaint.com/heritage-collection-all-in-one-chalk-style-paint-color-verdigris-green/ Or maybe a little darker.

I think green would look nice with the floors. That green would be too vibrant a green for me though. If once you start it's too vibrant for you also, perhaps you could do a darker glaze coat or even distress it with a second thin coat of a darker green.

Laura, Sol looks to have an almost pinkish hue in that last photo, do you see that in real life as well? Or is it just the camera?

I think it’s just the camera or the light. It doesn’t look pink in real life. It’s more of a tawny gold and quite light.

@Laura K Morghon I think it looks really good together. I am not a huge fan of painting wood that was previously stained and varnished. I think your cabinets look like they are in good condition. I understand that you don't want to decorate your whole house around a color that you don't love .... and having the neutral floor will work well for that.

#TeamNoBevel :)

I do have to admit that I was a fan of the bevels when this thread began. Now it's TeamNoBevel for me too. :D

Here is a video I took over in China of a hot press machine in action. This is how Embossed in Register (EIR) texture is mashed into SPC and WPC flooring. The metal plate the guys take off first would have the EIR grain protruding out of it. There is a metal plate between each layer of the flooring sheets. However many times you can divide this plate up by the width of your board (usually 4 or 5 times) will be how many unique boards of EIR you have in your floor. So a 4 or 5 repeat depending on how wide of a board you are producing. The wider the board, the fewer boards in your repeat.

Alan

Add me to the no-bevel team. The LVT planks in my kitchen have bevels, and while I don't hate them, I just don't love the way the bevels catch the light and make my floor look so "planked".

Those have installed SuperCore, what did you do for floor vents?

Lgiltmier, I've installed laminate (still deciding on supercore) and I'd imagine it's the same. You cut out around the vent, and just drop a "vent cover" into it. The vent cover will cover the exposed cut edges.

I was hoping there might be a flushmount option I could stain to match, but it looks like most of those are made for the thickness of hardwood not LVP.

A good carpenter/craftsman could probably make you one. It would take a lot of fine cutting of the flooring around the vent but I bet it could be done! And if you do it, please post pictures and information on how you did it.

OMG!! Zoe from We Ship Floors just called me. I am a long time lurker that has been sold on the Supercore product. I emailed this weekend with a few questions and SHE CALLED ME BACK!! Seriously, folks can you think of time that has ever happened to you? I can't. I was mildly optimistic that I might get an emailed response. We Ship Floors has just bumped themselves to the top of the list in customer service for this whole renovation project. My flooring needs are a piddly 600 sqft and they still took the time to call. Between that and the transparency and quality of their product specs, I think it is a no-brainer to go with their product.

Alan -- We just acquired 6 million sq ft. of reclaimed white oak. Can you use it? Not sure what to do with all this wood. Can I call you?

Joey,

I know some people who could help you with that. I don't mess with reclaimed. There are too many crooks in that business.

Alan

NEWSFLASH:

We are ordering for full matching solid SPC stair treads and risers for each color of our Xtreme SUPERcore floors.

Alan

@WeShipFloors Alan do you have a price estimate on the treads and an e.t.a.? I'll have to do treads in the next 6-8 weeks.

Here are a couple pics that do a decent job showing the true color of Supercore Oak Natural floors in natural light. Note they've only been swept/vacuumed (not mopped) and were covered in MDF/sawdust 2 days ago - will have better pics when we do the final cleaning.