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Louis Phillipe question

10 years ago

Hi, my Louis Phillipe rose which I have had for about a year from ARE has a one foot long shoot straight up out of the top. The plant itself is only maybe 10 inches tall so it is quite the shoot. Is this normal? Reminds me of how some of my other roses get a sucker shoot real long but this one does not have the skinny light green leaves. It looks like normal leaves. What do you think?

Comments (17)

  • 10 years ago

    So, your LP is a tiny baby, very young rose which HMF says gets to 5 feet tall. You say yours is only 10 inches tall, but has sprouted a new cane which is another 12 inches tall. DO NOT PANIC! What your rose is doing is called "growing" - that is GOOD. You say the new cane is "straight up out of the top". If that is correct, and it is growing out of the top of the rose, and not out of the ground, it is impossible that it is a sucker - suckers only grow out of the ground (or from below the bud union if for some reason the bud union is above the ground). If the leaves look like the other leaves on the bush, that's more proof that it is not a sucker. SP is a china rose, and china roses always put out new canes from old canes in all sorts of odd angles and directions. This is NORMAL. Baby roses usually sit quietly for a year or so, until they get established, and then they sprout up and grow, which it sounds like what yours is doing. Congratulations!

    Where are you, approximately? If you are growing LP, which is a heat loving china rose, I assume you are not in a winter freezing cold climate? In my zone 9 No Cal climate, all of my roses put on new growth at this time of year, because the weather has finally gotten cool and wet, instead of dry dry and HOT.

    We would love to see a picture of your LP - the entire teenie, tiny, bush. If you are in a warm climate, now would be a good time to feed it. If you are NOT in a warm climate, do not feed it now.

    Jackie

  • 10 years ago
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    Hi, thanks for your reply. I am in zone 9 FL. I just fed my LP rose some fish emulsion before the new shoot shot up. Guess it liked it. It is starting to cool a little here. 80's during the day instead of 90's. I will work on trying to get a picture of it.

  • 10 years ago
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    Very Off Topic, but I'm wondering about Nancy's screen name, lol.

    Nancy, do you just admire Geschwind roses, or is your surname actually Geschwind? It would be an honor to "meet" a descendant of the great rose breeder Rudolf G.

    Oh, and Jackie is spot on. If your rose is going to ever reach that projected 5 feet tall, at some point the new canes are going to outgrow the older ones, lol.

    John

  • 10 years ago

    My husbands last name is Geschwind.

  • 10 years ago

    Nancy - looking forward to seeing a pic of your LP! I love china roses - they are perfect for our warm climates. There are some very nice full bush pics of LP on HMF, and also comments that "it is a good rose for Florida". So, you did a good job choosing this rose! Just remember that china roses do NOT act like modern roses at all. They hardly ever need pruning, for example. They just gradually build themselves up in size by sprouting new canes off the old ones, and eventually grow into nice, rounded shrubs which have green leaves all the wary to the ground.

    Jackie

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks Nancy. I hate to be nosey, but I AM curious. R. Geschwind was one of the greatest of rose breeding pioneers (1829-1910), and the surname doesn't seem to be very common so possibly your husband is related? I have a couple of Geschwind roses, and they're gorgeous stalwarts in my garden.

  • 10 years ago

    I ADORE Geschwind's Erinnerung an Brod! As Fig mentioned, your husband's family may be famous in the rose world. :-) Congratulations for choosing Louis Phillip! It is a wonderful rose in a climate like yours and Jackie's. Its blooms are showy from a distance, and it is so charming up close. Carol

  • 10 years ago

    ARE are own root, so there is no graft and you don't have to worry there. Basals are so much more fun. Good luck with LP, I bet he'll explode next spring!

  • 10 years ago
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    Thank you all for the comments!...and I am not sure if my husband family is related honestly have not done the geneology. But would be interesting to try and find out for sure. I will try and work on taking a photo of my little LP.

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks for showing me your LP it is very pretty. I think I will go try and take a photo of mine right now.

  • 10 years ago

    My LP

    I didn't realize before but the shoot has a bud on top.

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  • 10 years ago

    my lp took at least 3 years to start filling out nicely very scrawny rose with few limbs at first

  • 10 years ago

    Nancy, your LP looks very content and happy. Just keep doing what you're doing. If you're going to keep him in a pot (I'm assuming you have nematodes there), then just make sure to keep up-sizing his home as roots fill the pot and he should do well.

  • 10 years ago

    He is adorable, and will fill out in no time.

  • 10 years ago

    Thanks...yes I can't wait for him to get bigger. I have already gotten a few roses off of him and they do smell of faint cherry lifesavers. I wonder if the scent gets stronger as he matures.