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Please HELP with Dining furn. decisions!

9 years ago

Hi All,

It's been a hectic
year so I've decided to finish it with a little more pressure and
make an impulse purchase of a dining table & chairs:) I'm feeling a little stressed to decide on
paint/stain and fabric choices this
week. EEK!

Following are pics of what we
now have in the dining area just for a perspective of colour/style etc. We
don’t have a formal dining room and I was trying to make this kitchen/dining
space a bit more ‘grown up’…more dining/less kitchen. If that makes sense...J

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To show colour in living room (just off the kitchen), I've attached a pic of this too. Same tones as kitchen...creams, ivory etc.

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Initially, I was thinking of a
creamy painted dining table & chairs. I was advised though that it might be a
shame to paint a new solid maple table rather than stain.

Soooo…am now thinking of staining
the table and still painting the chairs.

Here is the table...the stain choices are all quite dark.

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I've also purchased 6 of the round back chairs as shown here:(sample pic)


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Also, 2 of these upholstered chairs. Was it a mistake to mix these in?

I'm covering in an ivory Belgium linen.

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I can use this fabric (that I already own) on the back of the rounded chairs and the linen on everywhere else:

One 'blossom' would cover the back of the chair


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Or...I could spurge a little more and look for another fabric for chair back. (the challenge is that I have to have it to them by Jan. 3rd)

Finally, we also just purchased this new light fixture for over the table:


So...the big questions are:

1) Do I stain the table or paint it given the look in the rest of the kitchen/living room

2) Is it ok to have dark stained table with painted chairs?

If painted, this leads to another question...what colour? I need to choose a Benjamin Moore colour. Simply White? Cloud White? other? (can't be too start as linen is creamy)

3) Fabric for back? Any recommendations?

We also just bought new dresser/nightstands from same place... more decisions keeping me awake, lol. As my husband says, 1st world problem. Don't over-think it.

However, I am over-thinking it and want to get it right:)

Please help!!! Thanks so much:)

Lisa


Comments (57)

  • 9 years ago

    My chart is minwax.

  • 9 years ago

    I haven't heard of Benjamin Moore having stain for furniture

  • 9 years ago

    thank you smm! I'll take a look at minwax. I have no idea on BM stains:)

  • 9 years ago

    A lighter stain would be best, as the table you have now looks great and the light colors really show off the wood of the table top. So the same would be said for your new table. If you can't go with a lighter stain, then you will have to decide how much you want to highlight the wood of your new table. I use tablecoths on my dining tables so table stain and wood grain is not that big of an issue for me. But YMMV. If you don't care about wood grain, then you can have it painted. However, with everything else being a shade of cream/white, I think a white painted table and white painted chairs will just make everything in your kitchen/dining area look bland and nothing will stand out, unless you go for something really bold on the chair upholstery. Also, I do think it is a mistake to use two different styles of upholstered chairs on a table. No logical reason for it, and the contrast will not be great enough to look like it was purposeful. I think the whole point of mixing chair styles is to add variety, a focal point. At least that's how it seems in ll the pictures I have seen of that look. I am not a fan of mixed dining chairs, but again, just my taste, not necessarily based on anything other than I don't see the need for it. YMMV.

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  • 9 years ago

    Oh I agree about keeping all chairs same. I like the look in a formal dining room that is a stand alone room. Not in an open concept space like yours.

    lisa_mocha thanked smm5525
  • 9 years ago

    Thank you for the feedback. My concerns are being validated.

    My husband thinks I'm being crazy, but this this is an investment for me and don't want to botch it.

    I'm going to call tomorrow and see if I can cancel those 2 upholstered chairs.

    I wasn't sure about them and should've held off. Not sure if order can be changed, but nothing has been customized yet. We shall see...

    I'll inquire about lighter stain as well...

  • 9 years ago

    Even if you can't return/exchange the host chairs, it'll be fine. You have beautiful taste! Enjoy your new dining set :)

  • 9 years ago

    For a warm white on chairs, any suggestions?

    We have cloud white now. Wondering about this vs Simply White or Cotton Balls.

    (Have White Dove on some night stands and a little too gray for me)


  • 9 years ago

    Simply white is a warm white

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  • 9 years ago

    Can you take the chairs and then return if you don't like the look, or are they custom?

  • 9 years ago

    I wish... but custom.

    Am going to try to get out of those 2 chairs. Or at least delay.

    Just want to push a restart button now:)

  • 9 years ago

    Don't second guess yourself if you can't. A lot of this is splitting hairs and personal taste. If you like the look, there's nothing inherently wrong with your choices. Plus, with just photos here we can't see the whole picture. It's just going to be different and you have understandable anxiety. You have a lovely home with a unique and gorgeous color scheme. Trust your gut.

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  • 9 years ago

    Thanks pinkmountain:

    I do need to go with my gut for sure.

    Just nervous with the cost and the risk of not being happy with it.(or liking what I had better,lol) I'm sure it will all work out. I have my chance to customize and now I'm at a loss. Busy with work. Busy with holidays. Busy with sick parent. And this. Just the timing I guess. I was supposed to be out shopping for tile for a bathroom reno starting in the new year, not buying new furniture. My husband calls it 'project creep'.

    In the big scheme of things, don't know why I'm stressing so much over this.

    Need perspective. More important things to worry about:)

  • 9 years ago

    Well, in that case, try as hard as you can to ask the company to wait until you have more time to make a decision. Lots of times vendors push you to decide quickly so they can make their sales quota or whatever, but you as the consumer need to realize you are in the driver's seat and can always wait. Just take it one step at a time and tell hubs that you're feeling stressed and you just need to take it slow. I know my SO often gets impatient with me and just says, "Will you make up your mind!" but I have never regretted taking a little more time to mull things over and be sure. As I tell my SO and also my coworker (who is probably a clone of my SO sent down from heaven to amuse the angels), I CAN make up my mind, I just need a little more time than maybe is the norm. Also, don't be afraid to think outside the box and work to get just exactly what you like. I did that with our bathroom re-do, it took longer than SO would have liked (he was doing the work) and we almost killed each other (joking) but it turned out great.

    lisa_mocha thanked l pinkmountain
  • 9 years ago

    Yes, exactly as pink said. Hold off until you are ready. Get sample boards made and see how they work in your space.

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  • 9 years ago
    I've decided to have the round back chairs painted White Dove.

    I've been told I need to confirm table. Super stressed!
    All 6 of the stain choices I've been given are dark.

    Concerned about this because of the hardwood colour. Not to mention, the small space.

    Flooring is matte and a rustic look.
    Also, the table in their most common stain...

    Should table be painted?
    Or, do I ask for unfinished and have someone else do a light stain? What a pain!! Don't understand why my only stain options are all dark.

    Any advise? Beside have some wine;)??
  • 9 years ago

    Go lighter than floor

  • 9 years ago

    Just tell them you want a light stain. I don't understand why you can't pick a custom color on custom furniture.

  • 9 years ago
    I know!! I don't understand either. I had no idea when I bought that stain versions were all dark! Why!?
    I asked again today. Nope ... Just 6 options.
  • 9 years ago

    I LOVE your house. always have. I think dark is just not going to go with the current feel you have. My 2 cents. :( unless you are really going for a different look.

  • 9 years ago

    I would get it unfinished and ask for a discount so you can apply that money towards getting it stained color you want. How about if u buy a light stain and hand it to them!

  • 9 years ago

    Oh, I wish I could hit re-wind. I need to take it. Bought and ordered to size. (which I'm also scared a little too big...)

    I can't cancel. So my options are dark (agree, don't think I want), paint it cream (or any Ben. Moor colour)...or smm5525...great idea. Just tell them give it to me unfinished and I'll have someone else do it. For the pricem you'd think I could have more options. Feeling a tad discouraged.

    My own table a little beat up...just should have had it re-finished!!

  • 9 years ago

    If you plan to use a rug under the table, that will open options for the stain. Similar color to floor should be ok.

  • 9 years ago

    I would do the table in a dark stain over all the others you are considering because it will stand the test of time. That gray stain is too trendy to me and the painted table is going to be subject to chipping.

  • 9 years ago

    I wouldn't paint it or go too light. I think you would regret a light stain over time and over a rug you won't mind the contrast, especially with the white chairs. The relief will be beautiful.

    SMM, yes Ben Moore makes stains. We used a BM stain mix on our hardwood 17 years ago. Has held up beautifully.

  • 9 years ago

    I see - sorry I missed that. I would paint it then. anyway to match it to the chairs? I don't think I would mess with getting someone else to stain it. if there were a problem it would be he said she said on who was at fault (my two cents :) )

    To me dark would just be all you see in the room. again - if you are looking to change up your intention for the room maybe, but you have such a peaceful and lovely setting right now and I think that is because you stuck with cream, ivory etc. I am all about intentions this year with decorating in my new place to keep my on track and from buying pretty things that I like, but veer me off course with the direction I am trying to head. so far so good, I think, i have bought nothing :) lol.


  • 9 years ago

    In your reference photo of the table, it is surrounded by white from the carpeting and no chairs in front of it therefore it really stands out. You'll have it on a wood floor so their won't be that much contrast . Plus, you'll have the white chairs surrounding it and with a light colored runner or decorative items on the table I think it will reveal just enough contrast to make it all work. I think it will look great.

    Your curtain rod is dark and it adds a nice contrast to your white window trim and drapes. Same with the table.

  • 9 years ago

    Maple can be difficult to stain. It can get blotchy. That's probably why they only offer dark shades.

    I like contrast, so I would be fine with a darker table. I would then get a sea grass rug to go under it. If you decide you really don't like it, you can have the base painted down the road.

    It's a very nice room, nice choices!

  • 9 years ago

    I also think the dark stain is fine. Use a white or creme runner with some texture, a natural wood bowl (or glass) for a centerpiece and it will be stunning. Add some dark accents throughout your room, like some dark tree branches in a vase, or pillows, etc., and it's going to be gorgeous! I'd consider a rug too, in which case the dark stain is a no brainer. Your instincts were right to go with the stain and the design of that table is gorgeous.

  • 9 years ago

    Can you post the stain options?

  • 9 years ago
    Thanks so much everyone for your advice!
    The update...I spoke with them yesterday and I have until end of month to decide on the table before it has to go into production for the finish. ( I've given them the go ahead on chairs and fabric so at least that's in motion)

    Maybe the simple answer is to go with a rug. Now...the fun begins with that, lol.

    I can't find on- line images of their stains. They all seem to be dark versions of Espresso. Their lightest 2 options are Cinnamon ( too orange) and Heritage Brown...HB is the lightest option of the darks.

    Heritage Brown looks close to what's on the dining table in the post above or this one below...

    I'll stick my head in the sand over this for the next couple of days...but decision time will soon be here.
  • 9 years ago

    I just want to compliment you on your beautiful creamy white and warm living room. SO pretty! And the new light fixture...love love love!

    In the LR photo, in the upper right corner, is that a clock? It looks like a white framed clock with lights for the numbers?

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  • 9 years ago
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    Thank you all for your help!

    I need a Christmas miracle to make a decision:)

    Monica~Maybe you're looking at the shell shadow boxes?

    Heres that wall from another angle:

    On the table, Ethan Allan has a similar one that I saw at one time in cream. Below is a pic of it done in 2 tone... Cream base with stained top.

    Could you see something like this?


    My only concern with a rug is the size I'd need to fit the length of the table and the fact that I don't have much space width-wise so I'm not sure if it would work.

    I don't want it to extend over to the counter stools. Need a new house...that'll fix all of this:)

  • 9 years ago

    That table is nice.

  • 9 years ago

    That's a great way to solve the table color dilemma, go two tone. Best of both worlds and the grain is on top where you can see it and enjoy it.

    lisa_mocha thanked l pinkmountain
  • 9 years ago

    Yes, the two tone idea looks great. They should be able to do that. And you keep the wood where you can see it most readily.

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  • 9 years ago

    Sick of my indecision yet,lol! I am!

    A friend of mine tells me to paint it saying I won't be happy with espresso top.

    Painted table? Not the exact one I'm getting, but close enough for an idea..

    I'm still toying with suggesting to them that I take it unfinished and get someone else to do in lighter stain. What a pain. I have until end of the weekend to finalize. Eek. (Again:))

    The chairs have been started in BM White Dove so I guess I would need tondo the same colour with the table.

    (The one below us much creamier than White Dove)


  • 9 years ago

    No for painted. It'll just get dirty. I'd go with a medium tone stain. No espresso

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  • 9 years ago

    I wouldn't paint it, either. It doesn't look as rich to me painted. Too cottage-y. Can they send you a sample of the stains on your actual type of wood? Like how they do with cabinet doors?

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  • 9 years ago

    I'm expected to get back to them tomorrow with my decision. Still not ready for this!

    I'd been told they only do dark stains (or paint) due to the nature of maple and how it can appear blotchy. Well...our hardwood floors are maple, blotchy ( darker in areas) and I'm ok with it.

    I reallt don't wanted dark heavy look...

    IF I can get them to do it, what do you think of the colour on the round table?

    or, do you prefer the mid tone one, and go with BM White dove base to match chairs?

    I really do like the driftwood colour stained tables ( not too gray, but no idea how this would be achieved. ) Again, if they refuse, I could try to have done elsewhere but certainly not preferred choice....

    In hindsight, I would've shopped for this type of table in the 1st place:)


  • 9 years ago

    Could they do a clear finish?

  • 9 years ago

    I stopped in another local store that does solid wood tables with 16 stain choices or custom stains. Choice of finishes as well... smooth, rough sawn etc

    They will also refinish so as crazy as it is, if I can't get the color I want to wear I'm buying it I'm just going to ask for a bit of discount and take it unfinished. Refinishing at this other place will cost around 1000 but worth it if I get what I want. DH might not be too impressed but he told me to do whatever needed to be done.

    Here are 3 recommendations they gave me today that would work with the floor and our decor:

    1) driftwood (warm greyish brown)

    2) golden oak stain

    3) toasted wheat ( light, but not as washed out as it looks in this pic

    He also said could paint base to contrast against our flooring.

    Driftwood ( on maple)

    Golden 0ak ( on maple)

    3) toasted wheat ( maple)

    3 very different looks. With or without base painted BM White Dove...


    Thoughts on what works best with rest of kitchen/ living room?

    ( and new light fixture)


    Thanks so much... again:)

  • 9 years ago

    Take the lightest of the 6 options they offer and be done with it. The chairs will contrast with it and it won't be too dark. Even better if you are putting a rug under it.

    If you hate it in 6 months when things are calmer, then take it in to be refinished.

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  • 9 years ago

    I would go with the lightest of the stains they offer and stain whole thing, no paint

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  • 9 years ago
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    Ok, a little embarassed that I'm back on this, but yes, I'm baaaack:)....

    I've dragged this out as much as I can and finally made the trek today to see the furniture guy...

    I explained that I was stuck. My hardwood floors throwing me off as don't have the room for a rug underneath. ( I don't have the width space wise)

    I indicated their stain offerings were all too dark and wasn't convinced I wanted to paint it. Then inquired about taking it unfinished so I could have it refinished elsewhere. Great news is he said no worries...just bring in a sample of whatever stain I want and they'll match it. Yay!!!

    Now, I have still have to decide within next 2 days. They really need to fret this done beginning on Monday.

    I ran into a decorator at another store and she overheard conversation and said go with driftwood finish.

    Well, here are the light and dark versions of driftwood against my flooring and I think they're tool cool against the floods. ( but I do love the light grey if I had the right elements for it)

    A few more shade options:

    1) a warmer version of driftwood

    2) Reddish brown

    3) This ones reclaimed wood, but perhaps could get a lighter similar shade. Great for coastal look

    4) Lastly, closer to floor colour, but perhaps too close/ still too dark

    Keep in mind the new chairs are painted BM White Dove with light coloured linen upholstery.

    Any other recommendations now that I can go with any stain shade or BM paint?

    Opinions? ( apart from telling me to go away )

    Many, many thanks again!!

  • 9 years ago

    I love reclaimed wood. Maybe start a new thread?


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  • 9 years ago

    If it were me, I think I'd choose either the light driftwood in photo 1 or the warmer tone driftwood. Glad your furniture guy is very flexible.

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  • 9 years ago

    I like warmer toned driftwood. No greys

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  • 9 years ago

    Well...just arrived home 15 min ago after being back at furniture place...

    He admitted he had some concerns with being able to do the color and finish I want. I'd stopped in yesterday at the place that did our floor refinishing. They said they could do the table.

    As much of a pain as it is, we're taking delivery of the table unfinished and will have it done by either our flooring guys, or another refinished vs tge furniture manufacturer. Going to cost more, but at this point, my husband said just do it. I want a very natural finish.

    Another inspiration pic:

    Sorry for putting you all through this:)

    Might see another thread on this re-surface....

    We'll get out furniture in @ 2 was and then I'll try to sort out the table.

    Again, thanks for all of the feedback!