Thank you, i had t thought about reaching fixtures so thats a help. We arent chanhing plumbing, just removing tub. We currently have freestandung shower in same spot new one will be.

You don't do a remodel and not change the plumbing. You won't have the walls open again to address that.

What is your budget for changes? I fear that you are trying to compromise on the wrong things.

8k. Will do demo, paint, vanity install ourselves. I dont have issue moving shower plumbing. I guess my issue is:

1. Try to do walk in shower with entrance on short wall. Is there enough space for walk in without water getting outside stall, and would it work if we moved controls to long wall, with overhead rain shower?
Or
2. Do door opening on long glass wall but then not have hooks as accesible (basically just back of door hooks
Or
3. Change footprint to something completely else

8K is a professionally waterproofed and tiled shower. Your whole budget. You would need to triple your budget in order to accomplish your scope of work.

I just had a professionally waterproofed walk in shower done at our beach condo for $2200. I think it varies where you live.

My materials are $4k plus $3k for shower install, and another $1k to tile layer. Probably another $1-2k for misc so Id say $10k realistically. Not $24k. I'm not sure why so many pros on here always tell people nothing can ever be done and done well without astronomical amounts of $? This is not a super high end bath; its a modest 3 bedroom ranch home. Would love any thoughts and help on layout.

What are the dimensions of your shower? It looks narrow.

I'm not sure what dimensions, we have some wiggle room. Depends guess on whether we do fully enclosed or walk in.

We did a walk-in shower with no curb last spring for my disabled sister. It works great. We ran the under-floor heating into the shower so it stays very warm, even with no door. The suggestion to put the shower control near the shower entry is a very good one. You should also include a niche in the shower for soap, shampoo, etc.

What is the size of the walk in you did?

Need precise measurements to provide better input. In answer to your question on where door should be, if you are not "moving plumbing" you need a side shower door. Where towels hang are really secondary to function. You can get some hanging devices that hang over top edge of shower glass edge to hang towels and no towels should hang inside shower. Your biggest problem is the location of shower controls and width of shower. Without specific room measurements and location of fixed items like doors and windows etc responsible feedback can't be provided. We can "guesstimate" based on our professional experience but need more info.

Thanks I will add measurements in am. That is very helpful about the hooks that go over glass wall. Didn't realize those existed.

What waterproofing system are you using? What type of pan is being built? Just the waterproofing membranes and raw materials for that are at least 1K. With no tile, or anything else. Any tile professional who only charges 1K labor for a shower isn't doing a proper job. Or, he isn't a licensed and insured contractor, and the risk is all on you if he floods your house. Triple that labor cost is where a quality tradesman starts for wet work, and that isn't including the materials. The custom frameless glass enclosure is 3K. Never use ''stock'' frameless glass as you'll end up with gaps. And you have to tweak your framing while it's gutted to be able to do glass at all. Or a decent tile install. $$

A tile floor has to have the old one removed, and the slab scraped and prepped. Figure 4-7K for that with the new floor laid with the proper crack isolation membrane. Removing the tub requires a plumber to cap off the drain and supplies, inside a hole in the slab, then concrete has to be poured and leveled out to be flush with the rest of the floor. That's at least 1K there. Then there is the electrical line that has to be removed. You can't just cap that inside a wall or slab. It has to be taken back to the attic with a junction box, or removed all the way back to the box.

This is a lot more complicated and expensive than you think it is.

I would make shower as wide as you can. Door on the long glass side. I afraid your budget is small, as glass enclosure can be around 2,000. But shop around, see if you can use one of standard one from Home Depot.

Yes we will not be using custom. Sophie we just removed tile in our kitchen remodel and evened slab ourselves. Image in not sure why pros always wanna discourage so strongly. Its one thing to say hey you Probly need 10-12k to do this. But its almost like some pros just get torn up at the idea of anyone doing anything that is not high end, custom, fully contracted out and exorbitant in cost. We have a best friend who us a plumber and will do that work free. We have an electrician who works off hours for $20/hour. And like I said I have a quote for shower enclosure for $3000 that includes all material but tile. They just did our beach condo shower and my brother who is a contractor said the job was great. Not sure where you live but prices very across the country.

Still laughing at $4-7k to have a tile floor in 120 sq foot bathroom removed and slab scraped/prepped. WTH???

What crack isolation membrane are you using on the floor? That is a multi step process that adds labor time. And materials. Are you grinding off the old thinset, or just chiseling it by hand for a couple of days of labor?

I've never had a problem with gaps with "stock" frameless glass, but maybe it depends on your supplier (and installer). One thing to consider, though, is that some glass enclosures have a large door handle that can serve as an extra towel holder -- even if you don't *keep* the towel there, you can hang it there during the shower for easy access when done. Also, you can save a lot of money on the glass part if you put a wall at the far end, but of course that cuts down the light.

As for walk-in, my understanding is that those are very hard to do as retrofits, as they require that the shower floor be lower than the room floor, for drainage, and usually there are joists in the way (unless you raise the whole bathroom a bit)...

Doorless showers? Drafty. Gives me chills just thinking about it. But maybe heated floors that olsenla mentioned solves that issue.

I am truly sad that because folks here who are "freely" providing information, time, experience and knowledge we are somehow low life's. We happen to know what happens with projects that aren't done properly one, two, three years down the road especially in wet areas. So, if you just want people to basically agree with you, probably shouldn't use this forum.

These are my ideas for furniture and finishes. Grey floor yile, Dark walnut vanity. Thin framed brass mirrors. 9x12 marble look porcelain tiles for shower wall. Carrara hex tile shower floor (tho I prefer not to have real marble). Does anyone know of small scall marble look tiles that are really porcelsin or ceramic? Seems there arent many options out there for shower floors other than marble.

Fllo I love hearing words of wisdom and advice from pros. Or comments about costs I may not have considered. But justcoming out saying it will cost $24k total. (Without any idea of my materials or where I live) or sayinh $4-7k to demo and prep 120 sq ft slab floor, is just absurd and not helpful, and gives me pause as yo what agenda they have.

Tundra $1k yo tile a small bathroom floor is not unreasonable where I live at leadt, Like i said we just had this same scope of wotk done un our rental bath from a licensed contractor, and it was quality work

This shower was converted from fiberglass enclosure, and contractor charged $2200 to do it total (included all waterproofing materials except actual tile itself). That does not include shower door which hadnt yet been done when pic was taken.

Tundra I will post estimate once I get to my office this weekend

And yet, there are no answers about any of the materials that are more important than the fro frou decor ones. If your other installer didn't waterproof, or use uncoupling, then you did not get quality work. You got day labor quality.

Here is the before of the shower in beach rental unit

Sophie of course they waterproofed. Used hardi-board and whatever that painted red stuff is. I am not super familiar with bathroom remodel and waterproofing, but my brother (contractor) was on site (out if town visiting) and confirmed it was all done correctly

And why would u call design selections fro frou? Is this not a design board? are there not hundreds of questions/topics about finishes, furniture arrangements etc? I am using a licensed contractor. I am not DIYing a shower remodel. I am however DIYing the design of finishes etc as I have experience in that somewhat. So all I can see as anyone's issue here is the fact my contractor isn't charging what the pro's here feel is a proper fee

Does your brother own a mil gauge? Or did he verify that the contractor owned one?

Basic construction is more important that finish selections. The prettiest bathroom on the planet can be a stinking black mess if basic construction is not done properly. As happens all too frequently.

I totally agree. That's why we use licensed contractor to do so the work. Contractor did waterproofing, tiling, and we did the drywall patching, vanity installation, light instlation, painting etc. And I don't know about using a mil gauge but that's why I hired a licensed, reputable contractor. They did other work on the unit besties the bathroom, so maybe the charge for that portion wasn't as high as if it was solely bathroom work -- other than that not really sure what to tell you, other than that's what they charged

Tundra here is my breakdown:
Vanity $1800
Mirrors/Lighting $800
Floor Tile $250
Shower wall tile $250
Shower floor tile $250
Faucets/Fixtures $600
Shower glass $1000

Total material $4950

Shower labor $3k
Floor labor $2k

TOTAL$5950
(so will be more like 11k than $8k i originally said, but still far cry from $24k)

I'm having trouble visualizing your plan. Do you have photo's of current set up? I'm not a fan of door less showers. Too cold and drafty even with floor heat for me. Lot's of issues with marble shower floor tile so I'd steer clear of that. Shower door needs to go on the long wall for reasons given by first response. But IMO that is not even ideal as too close to other door.

Yeah that is my concern too - shower door being close to room door. Currently shower is in same place -- it is tiled on 3 walls and opening has a shower curtain. That being said, room door would generally be closed during shower time. Or we could swap room door so it swings out.

What are some options for floor tile that aren't marble or cheap and ugly? I am having hard time finding small scale porcelain tiles that are nice looking

Labor is usually more than materials. Especially in a bathroom.

I wouldn't do a doorless shower. Drafty. Cold. Especially in a room that size. There is a lot of air volume in it. A master shower should be at least 36" in depth. 48" is better. And would allow a curbless installation if you were to jackhammer the slab.

I am.showing about $5k labor and $5k materials. Keep in mind we will be doing demo ourselves, drywall repair/painting, lighting, vanity ourselves and have discounted plumber/electrician. So our only labor is tile work/shower installaion

Shiningautumn8: In answer to your question last night, my sister's walk-in shower is 4 feet wide by 5 feet deep. Here are a couple photos.

Just wanted to follow up and provide quotes for our shower and tile floor install in master, as a poster had doubted I could have it done at that price. The contractor gave us a verbal quote of $2200 for shower, then printed quote showing $3200. he then explained it was a mix up and we ended up paying $2600 labor/materials (except tile) for master shower. As u can also see the labor to do bathroom floor was as I stated. No where near the $5-UK other poster instead it costs