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9 years ago

First time starting geraniums from seed, any advice would be appreciated. We have pro mix seed starting mix, heat mats with thermostat, t-5 lights on timers, The basement room that has become our seed room is about 65 degrees f. Pelleted seed from Harris seeds. Will start in small cell flats and move up when needed. Are they hard to germinate? Some places say they need light, some say no.

Thanks Miike

PS also a little Grandio greenhouse (heated)

Comments (19)

  • 9 years ago

    Not sure if you germinated your seed successfully. I grow from seed for 2 years without heating mat or lighting. I started the seed around March at the window. I'm at zone 5. I followed the following website and most of them germinated. Some seeds germinate faster than others.

    Senior-gardening.com, look for growing geranium from seed

  • 9 years ago
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    First time for me as well growing from seed (zonal pelargoniums). Mine came up in as early as two days, surprisingly easy to germinate, 10 out of 14 are up as of today. I kept them warm, and used these directions from the supplier:
    "CULTURE: For may 10th blooms in 4 in/10 cm pots, seed by Dec. 20th. Use sterilized soil or
    a commercial seedling mix, plus low nutritional fertilizer. Cover seeds with 1/4 in/6 mm of fine soil.
    Ideal soil temperature of 72 - 76°F/22 - 24°C must be maintained for 4 or 5 days. Use bottom heat if
    you have it - if you don't, this means that your air temperature will have to be a constant 85°F/29°C
    to maintain about 75?F/24?C soil temperature. Cover seed flats with plastic after soaking with
    warm water. The plastic should be removed in 4 or 5 days. On sunny days, remove plastic, or seed will
    cook!. Lower night air temperature at this point to about 60°F/16°C to keep seedlings nice and short.

    TRANSPLANTING should be started as soon as the cotyledons have expanded (about 15 - 17 days
    after a Dec. 20th sowing. Transplant directly into 4 in/10 cm pots using 1/2 soil and 1/2 seedling mix.
    Pots would be put on benches or pallets to keep them off the cold ground. Maintain a night air
    temperature of 72°F/22°C for about 2 weeks to promote rooting. Reduce the temperature gradually over
    a period of 6 - 8 weeks after potting until a night temperature of 62°F/17°C has been reached. Low
    temperatures (under 55°F/17°C) will not allow the buds to open. Sunny day temperatures should reach
    68 - 72°F/20 - 22°C. Growth retardants should be applied to early sowings when seedlings reach the 4
    leaf stage. Apply 2 applications of Cycocel 12 days apart. Maintain air temperatures at 60 - 65°F/16 -
    18°C. NOTE: Geranium breeders say that there is recent evidence to prove that excessive soil temperatures
    of 85°F/29°C or more will prevent germination."

    Source: http://www.stokeseeds.com/product.aspx?ProductID=60261&CategoryID=289

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you both, geraniums are up and doing nicely, About 5 or 6 leaf stage. Ended up with 57 out of 72 not great but not horrible. They are out in our little greenhouse now. Planning to put up this weekend.

  • 9 years ago
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    Great to hear they are doing well! I ended up with 12 out of 14 sprouting. Here are some of them today:

  • 9 years ago
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    Your plants look great PNR! Three or four years ago, I had grown 'BullsEye Salmon' (from Stokes Seeds) and really liked both the foliage and flowers and since I had seeds left over, I planted them up in February and still had 100% germination.

    'BullsEye Salmon'

  • 9 years ago

    What a neat leaf pattern in the 'BullsEye Salmon' Twors, the dark centres look great! And that is great to hear about the 100% germination rate! For me I don't think there is anything much more satisfying than a 100% germination rate.

    The ones above for me are the Red Zonale F1 from McKenzie Seeds, available almost everywhere, I think I picked the packet from Golden Acre.

    I was thinking of ordering from Stokes for geranium seeds next year, I've spent my budget on seeds for this year. I might also try Veseys again, which had a few varieties of geranium seeds & when I signed up for the email list, they gave a free shipping code. I was also looking at Swallowtail Seeds in the the USA, they seem to have a decent variety, but our exchange rate is not the best.


  • 9 years ago

    The bull eye salmon is interesting. I bought seed from swallowtail too. I bought Divas series which most of them germinated. The Maverick series has few germinated and they don't grow as fast as divas.

  • 9 years ago

    Hello Elsa, great to hear about the difference between the Maverick and Divas series! Divas Orange Ice has me interested, I hope it becomes available again one day, it seems to sell out fast!

  • 9 years ago

    Stokes and Swallowtail have excellent seed quality and great service. I've received bulbs, perennials and fruit bushes from Veseys and all being of excellent quality.

    I love the two tone effect of Divas Orange Ice and might have to try it for myself!


  • 9 years ago

    I bought divas petticoat last year. This picture was taken in late Oct. It continued to bloom until November. The face is light pink and the back is dark pink.

  • 9 years ago

    Nice photo Elsa, I love the two tone effect :)

    Below are 'Black Velvet Rose', these had much poorer germination, only 7 of the 12 seeds had sprouted (compared to the 100% of the 'BullEye Salmon') when given the same conditions, I kinda wasn't surprised cause the seed of 'BVR' had looked quite poor in comparison. Anyways, these little guys are just beginning to show their dark centers and hopefully shall prove to be good performers.

  • 9 years ago

    Divas petticoat looks lovely Elsa!

    I've seen some great photos of Black Velvet Rose online, I too hope they perform well for you Twors!

    It's amazing how varieties differ. I currently prefer ones which are super floriferous. This light pink one impresses me, although I have no ID. The blooms are huge and lush, and long lasting. They fade nicely, and do not shatter. It formed a few seeds which I'll try, in addition to the usual cuttings:

    I like seeing the differences in varieties. I'll likely order some Bullseye and Black Velvet next year.

    Although not from seed, the Calliope and Rocky Mountain series did not perform well for me, although the colour of the blooms were vibrant, they did not bloom much nor often, and I ended up getting rid of them. I just picked up a few salmon Multibloom plants, hopefully they do better.


  • 9 years ago
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    Your light pink geranium has a lot going for it with its great looks and blooms being both long lasting and shatter resistant ... so nice!

    I did read somewhere of mixed results with the 'Calliope' and the 'Rocky Mountain' series having rated rather poorly in trial garden results.

    'Multibloom' are sensitive to growth checks (and don't' bounce back like most geraniums), the young plant must develop under ideal growing conditions and not allowed to be stressed in any manner, otherwise this will severely impact blooming capacity. Years ago, I had grown several colors and they DID put on a massive show, only drawback being shattering, though maybe the breeders have improved the series since then. The following year, I had neglected them somewhat by delaying transplanting or underfeeding or whatnot ... well, despite carefully tending to them afterwards, they had flowered so poorly as compared to the previous year. 'Multibloom' seedlings bulk up rapidly and produce a high number of stems, though check their growth at any time and it leads to consequences, so best to sow your own seeds (but, don't plant them too early!) or purchase vigorous young plants, rather than those already in bud or bloom and often falling victim to neglect at places like Walmart.

  • 9 years ago
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    Thank you for sharing your experiences with 'Multibloom' Twors! I had no idea they could be so sensitive.

    I am determined to find out the variety of my light pink with no ID. I got it from a family member, who got it from Costco. I'll revisit Costco when their garden centre opens, hopefully they carry the same again and there will be an ID tag. The way the blooms fade is almost pleasant. Photos online which match closest so far is the 'Dynamo' series, so that's my guess.

    'Calliope' and 'Rocky Mountain' held onto blooms for a very, very long without shattering, but they dried in a colour which was not appealing. Lots of deep green leaf growth, but only a few flowers here and there. If I remember correctly, only a few blooms on the flower head would open at a time, leaving sparse looking flower heads. I learned after this I prefer if they open closer to the same time.

  • 9 years ago

    Here are some seeds saved from another variety, again not sure what type. I didn't know until today they form little "feathers" when ready for harvesting.

  • 9 years ago

    Hi, does anybody know which geranium grow fast from seed to flower? My geranium are so slow this year. It's still very small like 3 inch across. I started the seed early march.

    Thanks

  • 9 years ago

    I find some varieties are much smaller and slower growing than others. I find fertilizer helps. Are all the varieties you planted slow to grow this year? What have the temperatures been like for you?

    My McKenzie brand 'Red Zonale F1' took about 14 weeks to flower from seeding:

  • 9 years ago

    Some of them are smaller than other but all of them are still small, no flower. It has been 16 weeks since started from seed. The temperature is about 80 in average. I will try to add more fertilizer. Your flower are so pretty.

    Thanks

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