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Wintersowing started-Zone 5. (21 jugs so far)

I began my first trial with wintersowing today!

I have 21 jugs so far. I have more jugs and many more seeds, thanks to the seed swap on NGA :) I'll do more in the next couple of months. I have a lot of space to fill (a large hill that I'm trying to turn into a butterfly/bee haven) so I want to plant a lot. Hopefully I'm not overwhelmed with the time it will take to plant all of these come springtime & hopefully I'm not horribly disappointed when none of it sprouts!


I have so far:

-Bachelor Buttons

-Balloon flower

-Canterbury Bells

-Delphinium

-Foxgloves (3 varieties)

-Lavender (English & Lady)

-Nicotiana

-Nigella (3 varieties)

-Sweet William (4 varieties)

-Swiss Chard (Orange & Peppermint)



Comments (38)

  • 8 years ago

    Congrats! Plus I love the pink tape!

    Looks like you have a lot of annuals. Do you plan to let them reseed? I'm zone 5 also. I ran out of containers, but I still have seeds I want to do. Looks very good.

  • 8 years ago

    Beautiful selection of plants! Have you winter sown before? I am also in zone 5 and start in February, concentrating this year on medicinal plants with new seeds and try to use up the oldest seeds I have. Winter sowing always surprises me positively!

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks Xian girl! I thought the pink would brighten the dreary winter. I am going to do more perrenials in the next batch. I'm hoping the annuals I have will reseed.

    Kiskin, I've never wintersown before so my fingers are crossed. I'm hoping I don't have a bunch of jugs of dirt come springtime time. I'm willing to experiment though and will do more in February and March.

    I'd love to do veggies but we live near an old factory and I don't trust the soil.

  • 8 years ago

    I have just sown the first February batch (I use 4inch pots) including some complete unknowns (to me) such as lepechinia hastata and boykinia aconitifolia...a few I have never grown before: francoa appendiculata, anemone leveilleii, thalictrum reniforme, altheae armeniaca, dianthus cruentus...and then a bunch I have not had for years: paeonies (several species), ranunculus gramineus, various primula, including our now rare native oxlip, primula elatior, more umbels - astrantia, eryngiums, pimpinella rosea, thyselium and angelica arguta, a few geums and another batch of hardy annuals. I am attempting to keep some sort of record (ha) this year unlike the usual chaotic mess which results from lost labels, rubbish memory and hopeless management of my greenhouse and garden.

  • 8 years ago

    Don't worry, they'll sprout! The first year I wintersowed, I was doubtful it would work for me in my cold zone 5 climate. But it did, everything came up. The only problem I had was in the early spring, when an unusually hot day fried the baby seedlings. Now I watch the weather, if its going to be unseasonably hot, I put my containers in the shade.

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    I planted only 40 jugs my first year, just in case it didn't work. Of course it worked! Planted hundreds of jugs of seedlings every year since and have many beds filled, gave seedlings away, and composted others. Not every container of seeds have germinated for various reasons but most have.

    Those you have listed have been easy sprouters for me except delphinium. Hold on to the delphinium jug if it doesn't have sprouts this spring. I have had them sprout in the fall or the next spring.

  • 8 years ago

    Yup, holding my breath here. Wintersow for the first time this year. For the last few weeks, I have been sowing in jugs and other containers. I am up to about 40 now and still going. I have these going...

    flowers: lavender, hollyhock, sea holly, Chinese lantern, snapdragons, datura, foxgloves, larkspur, sweet pea, nasturtium,money plant, marigold, lupine, sunflower, alpin enzian, Veronica, Japanese morning glory,

    vegetables: winter squash, zucchini, bell peppers, cantaloupe, watermelon, cucumber, tomatoes,beet, purple cabbage, arugula,red Russian kale, spinach

    Herbs: basil, lovage, oregano, borage

    I have them in my raised beds which is south facing. I now know I have to move them to a shady part to avoid overheating. Thank you!


    I am wondering if I should still start seeds in trays under light indoor as a backup. Any advice?

    Thanks,

    sara




  • 8 years ago

    Germination starting here; stylomecon, dianthus cruentus, aconitum napellus, phacelia campanularis and succisa pratensis.

  • 8 years ago

    Congratulations Campanula! You are in zone 8. There is hope for me in zone 7!

  • 8 years ago

    Sara - Hi, I do both starting on a heat mat and winter sowing. Tomatoes, peppers and eggplants go on the heat mat - we often go from cold wet rain in spring to a 90 or 100 spike in a very short window, so I need my veggies to be bigger than they would be winter sown for planting out or they don't make it. I also do my more prized purchased seed as both or all heat mat. Anything that needs winter chill is winter sown.

  • 8 years ago

    First year for me . I have lettuce , cauliflower, cabbage, Kohlrabi, lupines in gallon jugs.

  • 8 years ago

    Looking forward to seeing all your spring seedling results! If this is your first year, you will be amazed at how many seedlings you end up with! :D

  • 8 years ago

    Does anyone have sprouting yet? I added 20 more jugs last week before a big snow storm and they are now buried in snow. Before the snow hit the ones from 1/29 still didn't have any signs of growth.

  • 8 years ago

    I saw 4 jugs with sprouts before the big snow. I didn't think that they would live through the freeze, so I took those 4 indoor and they still look ok. I am now worry that I have to go through the hardening etc when it is time to take them out.

    The rest of of the jugs are sitting under a sheet of ice and snow. I don't know if they would survive.

    as backup, I started trays of tomatoes, peppers, squash, melon, and some herbs on heat mat and under light a few weeks ago. I have almost 100% germination with tomatoes, squash and melon but only 40% of peppers so far. I plan do a few more trays today.

    i can't wait for the snow to be melted. I planted some peas in February, those will be a write off. I have potatoes and onion set from store that are ready to go in to the soil.

    happy spring!!!

  • 8 years ago

    I'm in a warmer zone than pinkmaui, but I did a blog post showing snow all over the jugs and the little seedlings pulling through just fine - a hard freeze (prolonged below 32 and the jugs exposed, not against a house or protection) is necessary to kill them. They do sprout earlier than seeds in the ground would - but not months earlier so not seeing sprouts yet in zone 5 is a good thing. I'm in zone 7, it's been warm and I"m only seeing sprouts in about 1/4 of my jugs.

  • 8 years ago

    Good to know! I hate the first time doing something and not knowing.lol

    They are still covered by snow but we'll have a couple warmish days so I'm anxious to see the jugs again.

  • 8 years ago

    Zizia aurea is germinating...as are various (tiny) seedlets from the primula family (japonica, bulleyana, florindae, elatior, auricula, vieris). A bunch of salvia I got from Robin Smith are growing away - most of them new to me including hummingbird sage (s.spathaceae), stolonifera, forskaoli,involucrata and a Greggii hybrid, 'Christine Yeo'. A couple of little dianthus - cruentus and carthusionorum are almost ready for pricking out. Still waiting on quite a lot though. Started the tomato seeds yesterday.

  • 8 years ago

    My seedlings that sprouted before the big snow this past week came out fine. I feel better when ti snows because it provides great insulation, but I have to admit being worried about one annual that had above 80% sprouting already. Because it is an annual, I was worried when our temps hung in the teens and twenties at night. Yesterday the snow melted off of them and they are doing well still, all look OK, but growing slowly--which is a good thing. When we had several days in the single digits and no snow at all, I did take the sprouted jugs inside. I feel very certain they would not have survived that.

  • 8 years ago

    Deannatoby are you zone 5 too? I left my sprouts out in that cold . I hope they are ok. If they can make it through that then they will be strong.


  • 8 years ago

    Campanula, that's exciting. I can't wait to see sprouting. Everything still covered in snow at the moment.

    Deannatoby, that must have been a lot of work! I left mine out in that cold so hopefully I didn't kill them.

    Samuel, I'm in the same boat (zone 5) and didn't bring mine in from the cold. This weekend should clear the snow off of them so we'll see what happens....

  • 8 years ago

    Another snowless winter in east anglia. Tomatoes appearing. Got some 'Wild Sweetie' ones as a giftie - smallest seeds I have ever seen (and apparently, it is one of the smallest tomatoes in the world too).

  • 8 years ago

    I advise leaving everything outside. The whole point of wintersowing is to mimic nature, but protect from critters, erosion, and keep the humidity more consistent with the covered container. There might be some losses, in very odd weather years, but the successes far outweigh the failures. I've been doing this for many years, and would prefer it to any other method of starting seeds. Just wait until time for planting out. You'll be almost glad to have some failed containers, because you'll have more sprouts than you know what to do with.

    Martha

  • 8 years ago

    Yes, Samuel Adirondack, I'm in 5. The latest zone map that the US whatever put out a few years ago actually has me in 6B, barely, but I don't think it would be smart to plant for 6B here. I think I'm pretty solidly zone 5, and if we have an exceptionally cold winter with little snow then I'm probably more like zone 4!

  • 8 years ago

    pinkmauisunset, it wasn't too much work. We had strong warm spell that saw sprouting in less than 5 jugs followed by several days in the single digits and teens with no snow cover for insulation. I just put those 2-3 jugs on a tray and brought them inside the door at night. I know WS is supposed to work outside, but that was a hard hard hard hard freeze with no insulation for the jugs. I did keep one sprouted jug outside as a test case and the sprouts didn't make it,

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    I booked marked this to our progress and the results. Thanks. I have 23 jugs. Lettuce, cauliflower cabbage Kohlrabi lupines.

  • 8 years ago

    deannatoby, you're right it doesn't sound like too much the way you did it. I'm hoping we are done with the bitter cold even though we just had more snow yesterday. Still nothing sprouting.

    I think it's too late to do anymore that need cold stratification when do you guys usually start the warmer weather seeds like zinnias ? My dad just gave me more jugs and I want to do another batch.

  • 8 years ago

    Samuel do you have any sprouting yet? If so did they survive the cold?

  • 8 years ago
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    Yes the Lettuce cauliflower Cabbage.

  • 8 years ago

    I have around 85 jugs. Thankfully, we've had a lot of rain so I haven't had to mist anything. So far the only thing coming up are the poppies. I WS in Feb, March and a few more over the weekend. That's it. I'm done for 2017. Phew!

  • 8 years ago

    bella rosa...do you have any sprouting yet? What did you sow this weekend? I'm trying to figure out which seeds to sow this late in the season.

  • 8 years ago

  • 8 years ago
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    Thank you everyone. Winter sowing is so cool. It was easy and I don't have to hardy them.


    Planting out lettuce. Leaving the cauliflower Cabbage kohlrabi and Lupines in for a week.

  • 8 years ago

    They look great, Samuel! Yea to spring in Zone 4! I have sprouting in most of my jugs but nothing is going in the ground for a bit yet.

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    I put my Yankee hardy Lettuce in the ground . My soil is organic from 10 years of putting on 2 inches of Compost. The lettuce is so happy, it's loving it. I watered it in good. I didn't use the city water. I let it sit in a bucket for the chlorine to disappate. The seedlings are sensitive at this stage.

    I figure May 10 full moon for planting out everything and tomatoes.

  • 8 years ago

    I've got well over 100 milk jugs that I sowed. I would say around 75-80 of them sprouted. It's supposed to rain here for the next few days. That's good, but I hope it dries out a bit over the weekend so that I can get my WS babies in the ground. They are exploding from their milk jugs! LOL.

  • 8 years ago

    Samuel those great, ahead of mine in zone 5!

    Bella Rosa, any pictures? :)

    When do you all put them in the ground. I have a lot of sprouting but only one (lupine) that is more than an inch tall.

  • 8 years ago

    I usually plant them around the end of April/first week in May. I would have planted them today, but it's been raining for the last couple of days and the ground is soaked. oh, well, we need the rain too.