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Teas in A Rainy Winter

9 years ago

"Moser Pink Stripe"
(Found Tea Rose'; aka "Moser House Pink", "Moser Striped Rose"; may be 'Rainbow' 1889 or 'Improved Rainbow 1896)

"Jesse Hildreth" (Found Tea Rose) with "Moser Pink Stripe"

Comments (25)

  • 9 years ago

    So glad you had rain, Jeri! Lovely photos.

  • 9 years ago

    I've missed your presence here, Jeri. Jesse and Pink Stripe look lovely together. Just yesterday I pinched a bud off my young Jesse. I think it likes the rain. I know that Jesse Hildreth and WRCT are considered to be the same but when I had the latter it seemed to grow much more quickly. Of course it could just be a difference in location.

  • 9 years ago

    Yes, Jeri - very nice to hear from you! All of my roses are enjoying the rain, leafing out, and even blooming (they don't seem to understand that their blooms will be immediately ruined, or care). The teas are the most happy, of course. My DH and I pruned Reve d'Or 4 days ago, and by today (no kidding) it is covered with red new growth!

    I'll bet your garden is happy after the drought. Mine is not even flooding - my DH did extensive work on our driveway 20 years ago after the floods of 1997, and now instead of pooling in low places in the garden for weeks, the water flows (we get some runoff from nearby properties which are higher up than we are) straight down the driveway and into the storm gutters. So, the garden is soggy, but no under water. My iris and daffodils are coming up, so they did not rot as they used to before he fixed our drainage.

    Jackie

  • 9 years ago

    Beautiful roses. Wonderful photography. :)

  • 9 years ago

    Jeri, I have Jesse on order. I'm so hoping she flourishes here. So many of the roses you've featured/recommended do well for me. Thank you.

    John

  • 9 years ago

    I've never seen a plant of Moser Pink Striped. What a lovely rose it is! How big a plant?

  • 9 years ago

    It isn't very large. It wasn't all that large when I first saw it in the Sac. Cemetery. I'd hoped budding it would help, but it hasn't. I will try it on a different stock this year to see if that helps. My own root plant in Encino wasn't two feet tall and spread about a foot. The potted, budded plant here, in great soil, remains less than a foot by less. I'm sure there are places elsewhere it will perform differently, but it doesn't appear to be one you should expect to achieve the Herculean proportions may other Teas can achieve.

  • 9 years ago

    I have been wanting a very short tea rose. Moser Pink Stripe would be great, if it stayed short in my garden (3 ft or under). I want to replace a dying hedge of Carefree Beauty which I planted 26 years ago way out between the street and the sidewalk when I had NO idea what I was doing. To give them credit, the CB roses did fine for at least 20 years, but have declined severely since then, and need to be replaced. A truly short tea rose would be perfect. However, HMF says that MPS gets to be 6 feet tall. Anyone know where this info came from?

    Jackie

  • 9 years ago

    What's causing the death of your Carefree Beauty hedge, Jackie? I would pin that issue down before planting anything new. My experience with Moser is, it isn't terribly vigorous nor vital, but it can have gorgeous flowers. CB should last much longer than a quarter of a century. Something seems amiss there. I would be concerned planting something which can be "miffy" there until I knew precisely why something significantly more vigorous and vital, which should be more easily maintained, wasn't thriving.

  • 9 years ago

    OK, you talked me out of MPS!

    Thinking more about it, I probably should not replace the CBs with roses at all. They get the same "care" as the rest of my roses (which is water in the summer, osmocote once a year, and a trim with hedge clippers once a year). However, their bed has been invaded by those "corn lillies" (don't know the real name) which are blooming all over around here. I think they must have washed in with the water from the storm gutter, which runs into the beds next to the street in bad storms. We have dug them up several times, but they keep coming back. Also, the City planted a street tree at the end of that bed (replacing a 100 year old black walnut tree whose canopy was very very high up), and it has been taking more and more of the light.

    So, I think we need to take out everything, and try to dig down enough to get the corn lillies, and then plant some sort of flowering bush which needs less light. Any ideas?

    Jackie

  • 9 years ago

    Sorry to hijack this thread but I'm having a problem posting a new thread for the last couple of hours. I'm trying to post a question about my Old Blush hedge but the threads disappear soon after I post them. Anybody else having the same problem? Can you see my threads?

  • 9 years ago

    With your rain totals, would the light be appropriate for things such as hydrangea, azalea or camellia, if you like any of them? In the right environment, traditional mop head hydrangea can flower virtually year round. For higher heat areas, Endless Summer types have flowered winter to winter. "Sun azaleas" flowered year round in Pacific Palisades down along the bluffs in full sun. There was a house with a red brick drive and planters which grew Red Bird in full sun (with the traditional nightly fogs and heavy dews) on both sides of the drive, in what would be considered "full sun" there, for many years. I don't think in all the years I passed that house on my commute, I didn't notice color on those plants. There was an Alaska azalea hedge along the entry walk in front of a gallery at The Huntington Library for many years which flowered sporadically. It is now bougainvillea. There are a number of old, enormous Japonica Camellias here in town which have color on them much of the year. If I had shade from large trees, I would seriously consider growing some of each of these. But, I like them.

  • 9 years ago

    I'm not seeing a thread about Old Blush, Nik. Perhaps I am over looking it? Was it a new thread or posts to a running one?

  • 9 years ago

    New thread(s). Can someone try to post a new test thread and let us know what happens?

  • 9 years ago

    Can you see the post I just put here to test for you, Nik?

  • 9 years ago

    Nik I have been having the same problem on the rose forum. I have tried posting a thread twice and it disappears so I just tried to post it again and came over here to see what's going on and saw your having the same problem. I'm about to go back to the rose forum and see if my post is still there.

  • 9 years ago
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    I just checked and my post was there for about five minutes but now it's gone again. It's very frustrating.

  • 9 years ago

    Seems there is a system glitch forumwide.


  • 9 years ago

    Yes, there does. The post I made for you six hours ago is now not there.

  • 9 years ago

    Any one know how to contact Houzz. The contact route seems not to be viable anymore. Has Houzz issued the ultimate censorship? Sorry to kid around on here but I seriously thought they would have fixed this by now.

  • 9 years ago

    Kim, the problem I have replacing the CB roses is that the bed is literally touching the curb by the street. On the other side of it is the sidewalk. We actually don't own that property, the CIty does. They do not mind homeowners planting that strip, but ask that the plants not be too tall. The CB roses only got about 2 1/2 feet tall. I have mop head hydrangeas & camellias in other parts of my garden, but all of them are 7-8 feet tall! (not interested in constantly pruning something down). Azaleas are an OK height, but don't they need full sun?

    Other comment - I agree there is something wrong with Houzz. On the Antique Roses forum, the posts are NOT in the order of the time they were posted, unlike usually. I turned my computer entirely off, and back on later, and the same thing was happening.

    Jackie

  • 9 years ago
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    Something is amiss if CB only achieved two and a half feet. It should have been much larger than that, given the time they grew there, unless you continually pruned them smaller. If the site limited their growth that much, I would worry it would make it almost impossible for Moser Stripe to grow much, if at all. There are more dwarf forms of all three plant types available, which should remain smaller for the requirements of that space. Some sasanqua camellias literally grow like ground covers and there are others which build to smaller shrubs. There are also dwarf hydrangeas which remain two to three feet tall naturally. It all depends upon the genetics (and conditions in which they are grown) how large to expect them to be. "Sun azaleas" tolerate more sun (IF they are grown in a suitable climate without the extreme high heat, plenty of humidity, fogs, rain, etc) than the other types, but those not listed as "sun azaleas" prefer less sun. There are also varying plant sizes available in those, too. Red Bird seldom achieved more than the size you wrote should be chosen for the parking strip. Whether it would tolerate the light conditions of your strip, I don't know, but if you are interested in any of those plant families for the space, I'm sure you could find local, experienced information from larger, more established nurseries such as Berkeley Botanical and others similar to them in the Bay Area. Perhaps some of the California Native Plant nurseries and societies might be able to suggest natives suitable for the space? There should be ceanothus which should remain smaller and enjoy the exposure and there are always ground covers that should enjoy the moisture and light the space seems to afford.

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks, Kim. I will look into all of that after we get past our current pluming disaster (which is under a flower bed which is not the same one, but is in line with it further down the street frontage) - see my new post on here "Never a dull moment in the garden..."

    Jackie

  • 9 years ago

    Ouch! I'm sorry! Good luck. You're always welcome.