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What to do best with this new dining room space?

9 years ago
We just finished a whole house remodel and I'm having withdrawal symptoms!
Now I see I have this empty space in my dining room ( used to be where hubs computer desk was temporarily located until we finished his office. Should I build 1.) China cabinet on that wall area across dining room table ( I don't need more kitchen cabinets -- I have empty cabinets right now as I prefer to keep them in walk in pantry to the right of that artwork)
2.) a dining buffet with bar area and wine refrigerator
3.) a built in homework and artwork station for my kids ( right now they are using my dining table and cluttering it- it's becoming a go to area to stack everything)
Or can I make it work as all of the above? 3 in 1 would be fantastic but I don't think it's big enough. I have 8 ft of space from wall to back of dining chair with 5 ft of that the walkway space, that area itself is 11.5 wide x3 ft deep.
If so, Should I continue the white on kitchen cabinets or use dark brown of island? Or can I go with a different color? I am also still looking for new dining room set and figured it will be good to get this done and find a set that works with it. I like modern industrial with farmhouse feel and gray is the majority of my wall colors. TIA!

Comments (51)

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Great looking home! I would continue using white cabinetry that matches or coordinates well with what is in the kitchen. Same counter tops as well. I would definitely do the dining buffet/bar. Not knowing the ages of the children, their use and need of space will eventually age out. As teenagers they will be in their room for quiet and privacy to do their work. I would focus on keeping your main living areas coordinated and the main use for eating and entertaining. Best wishes!

  • 9 years ago
    Thank you. That's a good point. I have 9 and 4 years old. My daughter can't really study by the dining room anyway because her brother likes to distract her. But I'm also not keen on giving her a laptop and using it in her room. I figured I can put a laptop station with desk and they need to be there when using it. My 4 year old also has his own that is currently stationed by the island. We mainly spend most of our time in kitchen and dining room. I don't entertain a lot and I only own 2 China sets thus the reason why option 3 was more appealing use for us. Also my husband is concerned about making the hallway to the kids bedrooms longer and darker if we do a built on this area. Should I consider buying a unit that is not attached to the walls so I can change them as my family grows? You know... kids station for now, bar in 10 years, china cabinet when we get old and have accumulated enough China. Hehehe
  • 9 years ago
    It's kind of nice to have the open space. I might be inclined to put a very large pice of art on that wall and that's it. Putting a good sized area rug under your table would help anchor the area, but I understand with small kids you might rather not. You home looks lovely. I would live with it a bit before you do anything major.
  • 9 years ago
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    You could do some sort of homework/artwork for the kids, since that is most functional for you, but I wouldn't build it in. Use pieces that can be moved into their rooms eventually, and later you can place a narrow buffet table and mirror or artwork there. I would look for something like this desk, one for each child, with adjustable height chairs.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Ikea has a large number of units you could design for this space to perform multiple functions. Most come in white. I wouldn't build anything in. Too restrictive. I could see a wall unit with pull down desk surfaces so multi-purpose activities could be done in this space and when the kids get to get 12-13, they will want to be away from parents! So, then you can find a more adult use of this space.

  • 9 years ago
    Thanks for the responses!
    Deb, no rugs for us, I tried that once and it's too much work to clean up and I don't like to add stress when I watch my kids eat. But yes I agree artwork is needed as soon as I figure out whether built in or stand alone is better. I like the finish look of a built in but I don't need all the storage for things that I don't have or have no use for right now. However I like that they make the dining room look finished. Actually, I take that back, I could use the wine cooler! I took ideas from pics I found here that I actually like.
  • 9 years ago
    As far as stand alone stations-- I don't know how to pick them. Flo, My husband does not like IKEA- sorry he said it's furniture he had in college- he probably just hated assembling them but I don't care for the quality of their cabinets either. Maybe I can have the cabinet maker build it without attaching to walls? Something like this in photo? Would that work with my space?
  • 9 years ago
    Calidesign, I like that table and maybe I can add shelves on top too. I need some area to store their items -- right now I dedicated a few of my kitchen drawers for those but they are across the room next to the French doors. Maybe something with drawers.
  • PRO
    9 years ago
    Well, I agree with your hubby, but was trying to give you lower cost option. I think you can get other units, from lower cost stores ready made. I just wouldn't do built ins. You might think about how you can reuse items in the future before you buy anything. Maybe just a table and chairs with storage unit nearby.
  • 9 years ago
    A cost effective solution would be to build in a long table wall to wall. It can serve a multitude of purposes from school work to an extra place to serve from when entertaining. Add power
    points for lamps, computers.
  • 9 years ago
    How about something like this? Except where the window is, maybe I can put kids artwork up or paint with blackboard paint.
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    A nice long dining table pushed to the wall would serve the same purpose and you could do shelving, but kids couldn't use those shelves. Storage units on casters to be pulled out and used for extra surfaces or storing "stuff" would be functional and could look nice. Then in a few years, pull the table out and use it for dining. Or if it is seeing better days you could paint it or even put it on patio. Main thing for kids is getting the "height" of the writing surface proper for their age or chairs that can be raised up until they get bigger.

  • 9 years ago
    I see, ok I will start looking for a narrower dining table, that might be difficult as I only really want it to be 24" deep so the extra foot would be for space for chairs, I don't want the chairs on the walkway. Maybe a long console table might work but the issue would be it will be too high for kids. I might be able to cut the legs for now. My husband is very handy too-- maybe I can have him build a table. He built us two big barn doors that everyone loves. I just need to see how I can design it.
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    I was just thinking of doing a 24" top surface, hubby can make and getting hairpin legs for it and to start with the shorter ones for the kids. Leave ends for some cabinet units where you can stow things behind some doors and use the "wall attaching" devices to ensure the kids don't pull them over on themselves. The big box stores actually have countertop surfaces you could use and they have a variety of "laminate" top surfaces. Just depends on how much money you want to spend. You can do a kid's custom design so that it fits the things your kids like to do. Check out "closet" organizing looks. They have lots of good ideas for things like you want to do. It can be temporary, but also fit into your style. I saw one recently. I'll see if I can find it again and post it for you.

  • PRO
    9 years ago


    Eemnes home · More Info
    A simple board, with some type of leg solution and cute chairs and some clever wall ideas could work well for several years. They used drapery rods and hooks to hang things from. Use your imagination. If you want something more formal looking but that would convert easily to later, you can do storage closets built-in with other areas for work surfaces and handy easy to reach cubbies for the kids.
    Naomi Astley Clarke Portfolio · More Info
    Hubby could probably make these units, and do them in your kitchen style, so when the kids get older and retreat to their rooms (heha!) you have usable additional kitchen storage and display space. You could do these in the same woods as your kitchen cabinets. Lots of ways to include various stepping pullout stools, anything you can imagine. Hope these ideas inspire your thinking for your space! Enjoy!

  • 9 years ago
    I love all the ideas! Now it's just a matter of running it by hubby and seeing if that is within his scope of diy project-- I like the first one better as it isn't too overwhelming and appears manageable-- if that does not work out I can always have the cabinet maker come back and plan out that second pic you posted. Now do I do this project first before I shop for dining set? I really want to change my dining set -- this is almost 10 years old and the seats have seen its days.
  • PRO
    9 years ago
    I would get your new dining. That is something you will have for a while. The rest is semi temporary.
  • 9 years ago
    After much searching for long narrow dining tables, I found this! Do you think this will work? It is 96" long and 32" wide which will work great with my space! I can also buy one of the bench seating it goes with or get two of the white chairs. Although I'm afraid the chairs are MCM. What do you think?
  • 9 years ago

    You will have to measure the width in your space to see if you really want a table surface that wide - don't forget that the chairs will stick out even further. Personally, I wouldn't do it. You already have a dining table right next to it. As for the bench or chairs, neither one is good for your young children. Wasn't the whole point of that area to give them a surface to use? I think you need to stick with adjustable height, comfortable chairs so they can actually use the space.

  • 9 years ago
    My husband doesn't have time to build anything at this time that's why I was looking for narrow dining table, maybe I will get adjustable rolling chairs to go with it. My nook there is 40" deep so I have about 8" extra after table goes in. Really ideal would be 26-28". Sigh, I don't think I can find one unless I buy a console.
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Have you considered a live edge wood table? You could get slabs the width you want and all hubby would have to do is put legs on it. Could be simple hairpin legs for now and perhaps a more substantial base later with perhaps an additional board?

    Live Edge Wood & Iron Dining Table · More Info
    This is a more narrow table and you could pair it with cross-back chairs.
    Somerset X-Back Metal Chair With Rustic Walnut Seat, Antique Turquoise · More Info
    These come in all colors and shapes. The are very durable so kids can't hurt them. This is a combo that could work. I wouldn't do a bench, I would just put the table right up against the wall and put a chair on each end and probably 3 chairs down the one side. Later you could upgrade the chairs if you wished. This could work until hubby and work on the space. That table is very reasonably priced among this type table. I don't think I could get that made for that price. Simple legs, kind of like the look you have going in your space.

  • PRO
    9 years ago
    Sorry I clicked on wrong table. Let me recover the $795 one.
  • PRO
    9 years ago


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  • PRO
    9 years ago

    This one is less expensive but wider. However, if you hunt around you can find one. The one you posted seems to rustic for your more modern/rustic look?

  • 9 years ago
    I agree, I need to get something with metal and wood so it's not bulky and it still in rustic with modern industrial vibe. I like that last table, which site is that? I have trouble looking for more than 15" solid wood plank anywhere! I found some console that I probably can semi diy - remove the bottom piece for now to turn into writing desk and put back later for buffet. Is this still too rustic?
  • 9 years ago
    FYI where do you get wood slabs? Lumber yard? Or I can order online?
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    You can find the "live edge" slabs on line, or at specialty wood shops in your area. Shipping is the only challenge with on line things. But if you get the slabs, you can make the table more narrow which would suit your needs I believe. You might even find a single slab that would serve almost like a buffet later. I think it is a flexible solution. I'll see what I can find for you. And these slabs could always be "recycled" later for other purposes. Maybe a desk surface in a den for example.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Here is one website: thelumbershack.com they seem to have a wide variety of slabs in various wood species, and sizes. Take a look on there. There are many others as well. Make sure you can see both sides of the slabs too, so both sides are cut. Let me know if you find something interesting. The black walnut is gorgeous.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Yes, I think that last one you posted is too rustic. You have a chic rustic vibe going on and I think that is a bit too cabin rustic if you know what I mean.

  • PRO
    9 years ago

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  • 9 years ago

    LOL I guess the idea is that your daughter could do her homework while she's riding up and down in the elevator.

  • 9 years ago
    Lol! That solves the problem! A really expensive solution for empty space though.
    Honestly elevators freak me out. I take 5 level of stairs at work instead of elevators so I think I can handle one level at my home.
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    LOVE elevators! haven't tried the pheumatic ones though. As the population ages, more and more people want them in new homes. Prices keep coming down so you can plan one into a new build home for around 15-20K which for a new home is not bad. The kids LOVE them. Great for moving holiday deco boxes up and down, and storage items. Wonderful!

  • 9 years ago
    So I have been busy looking for a dining set and had no luck finding one I like so far. My hubs is saying what we have is fine for now and just deal with the empty space first then getting a dining set. Do you think there is anything we can do temporarily to these chairs? I have also asked an upholstery shop how much it will cost to make slipcovers for them since I can't find one that fits the wide seats. it's $200 a piece! It's a little much for slipcovers,I'd rather buy new chairs. My mother in law suggested I sand the table and paint it -- not sure if it's worth the trouble.
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    I would definitely paint that table. If you use a "chalk Paint" there is very little prep necessary. That is the going price for a chair slip cover. They are a lot of work to construct. If you don't like the chairs, paint the table and start looking for just new chairs that you like. Chairs are the expensive part of dining sets anyway. Are the chairs in relatively good shape? If you have a auto paint shop near you that you trust, try taking a chair to them and see if they could spray paint them glossy black to go with the new white table! Not sure what they would charge, but they have all the proper equipment and can do glossy really well! I would ask. They may have done tables too.

  • 9 years ago
    Flo, My chairs are in good condition but the seats are microfiber and dirty looking even after cleaning- it makes water spots. I'm afraid to buy a new set while my kids are young -- they will make a mess and I don't want to stress over messes so I figured something that is removable will be great. This is the look I want with slip covers, my chairs are curved back and have wider than normal width. I also want a side with possibly a bench to achieve modern industrial and farmhouse look I want.
  • 9 years ago

    Slipcovers would be even worse with young kids than the microfiber seat. Have the seats recovered with something durable for the kids, and then replace the whole thing after they are older. Reupholstering a flat seat like that is relatively easy and inexpensive.

  • 9 years ago
    Cali, we did that already- it was a waterproof red paisley cover on the pads ( removed it and stapled in the back) but I moved and changed my colors so the red had to go. Should I just do that again? Unfortunately that doesn't fit with the look I want for the house. Ill try searching for a dining set again. Would a gray stain dining set work for this room?
  • 9 years ago

    I thought you said your husband wanted to keep it and you just wanted to change the chairs. Unless you can change the whole thing, I would just recover the chairs, especially since you can do it yourself. Use a black or gray wipeable fabric. If you want something new, get a casual distressed finish in solid wood or with changeable chair pads so it can be used by your kids without worrying about it. And again, even if you want a farmhouse look, no one likes sitting on a bench seat.

  • 9 years ago
    I wouldn't want to sit on a bench seat either. Last time I did that was in a ballpark.
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Nix the bench. Terrible for people to sit on and once on it, it is never in the right position, so floors get scraped up. Picnic tables outside fine but not in house. OK, can you remove the seats of the chairs and recover them with a nice leather look? That is simple to do. Turn the chairs over (maybe you have already done this so forgive me) you should see some holes and deep in the holes will be screws. Those screws are holding the seat in place. Remove the screws and seat will come off. Then it is simple to recover. Need a sample gun (electric) some fabric and watch a youtube video and do it yourself. You can pick any fabric that is washable you want. Some of the new Sunbrella fabrics are really nice too and they wash. Slip covers for these chairs I don't think will work, to say nothing of the cost.

  • 9 years ago
    Cali, he does want to keep the dining set until the kids are older because he knows they'll just bang it up but I know I can sell him the idea of washable slip covers. Since we are getting rid of the dining set regardless it happens now or the future, I was thinking of painting the legs of the table chalkpaint white or aqua and leaving the top that dark brown color and getting slip covers for the chairs to make it work for me temporarily. If the painting comes out bad, then we'd have to get new set earlier but at least I tried. Ok i might scrap the bench idea, my kids always fight to get on the booths or benches when we go out -- and I thought it would be easier to clean mess on a wooden bench than a chair.
  • 9 years ago
    Flo, yes we have done it in the past. It was relatively easy to do except when we took out the fabric we realized that the dirt and grime stayed on the original pads. Now I have disgusting seats and frankly I'm embarrassed to have people sit on it thus the slip cover idea -- my friend had those slip cover chairs from ikea and she says It was easy to wash and clean. Easier than wiping off stains on covers stapled to the chair.
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    I have a feeling new chairs are in your future! lol You won't be happy until that happens I'm afraid.

  • 9 years ago
    I know... ugh I'm going too keep looking. This pic has almost similar table style I have and hopefully I can recreate the look after I paint legs. I think I can keep the table and keep looking for chairs.
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    that would be cool. You can get those chairs too if you like them.

    Set of 2, Greta White Modern Dining Chair · More Info
    These might be fun. And washable! They are quite comfortable too.

  • 9 years ago
    Ok I'm trying these slip covers -- I bought them online and it actually fits my chairs! I just need to iron and custom fit the pleats. Next step is to chalk paint the legs of my table aqua or dark gray. I'm also planning on adding rug since my chairs are scratching my floors. I'm hoping once I figure my dining area, I can tackle the hutch/ workstation on the space next to it. What about adding two different chairs on each end?
  • PRO
    9 years ago

    Good job. I think that is getting close to the look you were after.

  • 9 years ago
    Hello it's been a while but I finally just ended up doing the dining China cabinet and kids homework station. It's still in process but I will post finish pictures once I have hardware and glass doors installed.
  • 8 years ago

    Very attractive, and functional too.