Yes, yes, yes! I LOVE Buff Beauty!! A classic with clusters of buttery gold fading to parchment blooms. I've planted mine against the wall of my blue house.

My advice would be to have patience with your rose. BB takes several years to achieve its glory, but when it arrives, OMG! It just gets better and better. TN might have a climate less suitable, but I'm skeptical. I've seen magnificent BB specimens in Texas, Louisiana, and Oregon and photos of a gorgeous BB in Georgia. I'll see if I have any photos of mine on my phone.... Carol

Lilyfinch, So far same experience here at 3 years. Mine may be in too hot a spot.

I ditto Sheila's advice about BB and the heat or blazing sun. My BB is against a west facing wall, but this is Portland where roses don't toast as severely. In the south or hot regions of the country, partial shade is recommended. Carol

Flowers of this one seemed to be unsuitable for hot sun positions when I had it here in the dullest metropolitan area in the Lower 48, where it is not even as hot in summer as Portland. One thing that needs to be kept in mind when reading about plants such as this one that are favorites in Britain is that 70 degrees F. is a heat wave in Surrey.

Maybe some have nevertheless gotten it to look good in the South because of the significant summer humidity. Something we do not have here in the P.N.W.

Portland , it looks gorgeous in front of the blue wall ! They really compliment each other . I don't think mine receives any shade , and I do remember it having blackspot and losing leaves last summer . Maybe it is too hot here ?

Mine seemed to have poor color retention, quickly looked faded and bleached. In most of the shots on this thread the more recently opened flowers look to be approaching the color effect given by 'Ghislaine de Feligonde'.

I definitely get the deepest bloom color in late spring to very early summer and then again in fall. The photos I posted were taken mid May last year. Midsummer flowers are more of a deep butter yellow fading to parchment.

BB's blooms fade more quickly on my west wall than in an east facing bed or shady area. When I grew BB in partial shade, it retained its color well but produced slightly fewer flowers and bloomed a bit less frequently.

North TX gets quite hot, but I've seen lovely BBs there. They were all planted in partial shade to quite shady areas and were mostly spring and fall only bloomers, two flushes per year with a blossom or two in between. Carol

Hybrid musks don't do well in my area. I had Buff Beauty and it had beautiful blooms in the spring which frustrated me no end when I tried to put them into a vase because the heavy blooms on their thin stems would immediately fall out again. After the spring bloom there wasn't much of anything. Yet, when grown in the right place, they can be astoundingly lovely.

Lilyfinch, I'm in east TN, and our summers are possibly even hotter than yours in mid TN, lol. My BB does quite well in morning sun, afternoon shade: big and rambunctious. It doesn't win any prizes for rebloom, but the Spring flush is amazing. I grow it with a Lavender Lassie intertwined. I've had mine for many years, but I seem to recall it taking a while for it to get its feet under it. I do think you might have it in too much sun. Most hybrid musks are somewhat shade tolerant, and in BB's case some shade is beneficial in our summer weather. Also, I don't prune BB except to remove errant twigs and dead limbs. When it was small, I did tip prune to make it more full.

John

I've had mine for 4 or 5 years now. I intended to grow it as a freestanding bush, but even though its main canes are strong and thick, it was pretty much just throwing long canes straight forward on the ground. I added a support behind it a couple of years ago...just a 4 ft one in hopes of draping the canes over it to get it started going up instead of out...but those big stiff canes didn't want to be lifted onto it. So, mine is a weird looking thing with some random 10 ft canes going every which way in the air, but most growing low to the ground. It is in mostly sun with just some early morning and very late afternoon shade. It blooms frequently throughout the season, but only heavily in the spring and in fall...rest of the time, it's just a few blooms at a time. Mine blackspots a good bit, but that could be partly because of its current low mounding form. I love the blooms (even though they fade quickly) and scent. I think I'm mostly to blame for its ugly growth habit, so going to hard prune it back to a couple of feet this spring and try to train it into a better looking bush...before it gets out of hand this time. If that doesn't work, it will probably go.

My ground hugger last spring:

Pat , that is gorgeous and what I want to see from mine! I do have a spot in front of my house it could work .. full sun until 2 then indirect sun ? Then it would free up some prime real estate in the back garden . I'm glad I started this thread , I don't feel so bad about the Rose now :)

Good wishes, Lilyfinch! I hope your BB becomes a joy to behold. Carol

I have a hedge of Buff Beauty planted in full sun, but in an open spot. The first (and by far most dramatic) flush in June'ish is before the PNW here (outside of Portland but up 1600 feet) heats up and gets bone dry. So there's no opportunity for the first flush of flowers to burn. Each individual plant is a monster: thick stiff canes, huge thorns and I have often wondered if I would get better re-bloom if I deadheaded it ...with a chain saw. But it has a more modest flush at the end of the season and is, in all events, a glorious garden rose.

Gorgeous photos.

My Buff Beauty is in full sun all day. It has been there now for about 7 years.

I love it to bits.

Daisy

Julie please share photos this spring! Sounds wonderful! I don't prune mine either, I like my roses to get big so I've left it be but it's not big yet

daisy that is spectacular! Oh my goodness no wonder you love it!

I grew BB in Grapevine, Texas and the color was indeed mostly buff, as advertised. Reve d'Or was on the other side of the arbor in more sun and of course bloomed more consistently. These were paired with Perle d'Or at the feet of Reve d'Or and Abe Darby at the feet of BB. Beyond them was Westerland. How I wish I had a picture of that bed!

I just ordered Bubble Bath and expect it to give me two flushes here in SE Virginia. Any other bloom will be a plus. Of the hybrid musks in my circle bed, Lyda Rose is the best repeater, followed by Lavender Dream then Darlow's Enigma and Vanity.

Buff Beauty is still on my short list tho she proved more difficult to train than Reve d'Or. I'll throw in a kudos for Cornelia whose flushes are wonderful in limited sun; one of the few that looks just like her pictures here despite our intense heat.

I would Love to have Buff Beauty, but she is not hardy here and I don't want to grow her in a window well, so I grow Crown Princess Margareta as a very good subsitute. Beautiful photos Daisy, Pat and Portland!!!

Rebecca

I have a BB that's about 3 yrs old, growing in full sun that might be too much sun for it. I get 2 flushes a year, the fall flush being the nicest. The roses here in zone 7B are leafing out now, and the 6 ft canes should have baby leaves all along the canes, but the canes only have leaves at the point where they join the main plant and at the tips of the canes. So there is a good 3 ft of bare cane where leaves will never be on the canes, I might move it to a shadier spot and replace it with a Crepusule.

Lois I may get rid of mine after all .. I was thinking today if I moved would I take it with me or replace it ? No .. so maybe that should be the kick I need. I am going to let it have a spring flush and that will make it or break it :)

Mine sprawls around our front porch, where it's partially propped up by a palm and entangled with a Passion flower. It's taken a long time to get this big, but it's spectacular this time of year. The fragrance is amazing. I leave the front door open so it can waft in, and people passing by comment on it a lot. This is the north side of the house, so it gets almost no sun at all in the winter.

That is beautiful corby! Not the mention the front of your home , boy do they compliment each other !!

I have one open bloom and am waiting for the whole shrub to open. I think she'll stay another year , I planted some clematis behind it and may even plant a climber Behind it to fill in where it's lacking . I planted it too close to the front of the border .