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Composting "Goosebery" Syrup

9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago

I am from Northern Europe and I love true sour-sweet Gooseberry with hairs on the berries and more sour than sweet, but this "gooseberry" is some kind of disgusting mock up syrup of it that they make in Portugal and the label suggests to dilute 1 part with 10 parts of water or add it to yoghurts, beer etc. I tried all that and it ruined my drinks and food. No it is not spoiled, it is new. They make lots of it, and it is sold everywhere in 1L glass bottles in the booze department of the supermarkets. The taste is disgusting (boring? useless? nasty?) and its probably deadly to eat? drink? slurp? swoosh? kaloorz? (which one?) too much of that disgusting stuff. Yet I was stupid and dumb enough to buy that 1L bottle of that ridiculous rubbish and it costs a bit over $3. So I tried to use that shti with vodka, mixing it and drinking it, trying not to throw up after inhaling it, just trying to use it up as I am not high on $. Yet at 0.7L left I want to pour it out or give it away, it is THAT disgusting. Adding lots of squeezed lemon juice helps a bit. So I decided, why not compost it, but how? If I pour it into each of my compost bins would it infect them with maggots or ants and not wanting to waste $2+ what should I do with it? Donate to the neighbour in an opened bottle? Or perhaps there is a meal that can turn this yucky stuff into a tasty something?

Comments (35)

  • 9 years ago

    It won't harm your compost heap.

    Could it be Xarope de Groselha ie Red Currant Syrup rather than Gooseberry?

    PicoAzores thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 9 years ago

    The only thing I would say is it is not going to bring much to the compost pile. The insects attracted will more than likely just take away the syrup and bring nothing else to the compost. You could probably make a bee feeder and fill it with a diluted syrup if it is overly sweet.

    PicoAzores thanked John Donovan
  • 9 years ago

    You could dispose of it by pouring it down the drain, or in your compost pile. Won't do you any good either way. Mostly sugar. The sugar will increase the bacterial population in your pile long enough to consume the sugar, but once that's gone, they'll be gone as well. Sugar is sometimes considered as a way of jump starting your compost pile bacteria. I don't believe it really works that way.

    PicoAzores thanked daninthedirt (USDA 9a, HZ9, CentTX, Sunset z30, Cfa)
  • 9 years ago
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    Floral, yes, exactly, but the label reads "GOOSEBERRY SYRUP" in English as well as GROSELHA, so I grabbed it accordingly to that information (both in English and in Portuguese). I should probably bring it back to the store for a refund (just joking), although I could since they crooked me on multiple occasions, but this is Portugal, so they may say it was described appropriately, since GROSELHA seem to translate to both CURRANT and GOOSEBERRY occasionally on GooTran. Yet another potential problem having Brazilian - English translations and NO Portuguese - English translations on Google Translate. Yet the English - Portuguese dictionary that I purchased locally translates GROSELHA as GOOSEBERRY and does not mention "currant". The label depicts something like red currant, but how do I know when the description screams GOOSEBERRY and my dictionary translates GROSELHA as GOOSEBERRY. I thought those depicted were generic "berry" for all berry products. While I like red, yellow and black currant raw, I expected it to be a real gooseberry syrup and even if it is a currant syrup, it is something very artificial bearing no taste of currant.

    So I guess it is best to just pour it away into the sink and be even more careful consumer one can ever be these days. Although my sink also ends with a long term compost vessel (septic tank section for overflow and liquids).

  • 9 years ago

    Off thread but not off topic - I think that is the latest jargon. I never head of GOOSEBERRY SYRUP but I went to Amazon and found I could get two liters or about $66. That is about a dollar an ounce, isn't it? I think I'll pass for now.

    PicoAzores thanked albert_135   39.17°N 119.76°W 4695ft.
  • 9 years ago

    I don't speak Portuguese but French and Spanish use the same basic word for both for red currant and gooseberry.

    Presumably the locals know what they are buying under that label. Its all part of learning to live in a new culture. Who knows, maybe you'll even acquire the taste. Pretty clearly mostly red currants here.

    PicoAzores thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 9 years ago

    One part juice, 10 parts vodka might work...lol


    PicoAzores thanked old_dirt 6a
  • 9 years ago
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    Can't believe such different berries have the same name: GROSELHA.


    The culture (PT) is all good and is very beautiful and is quite familiar to me in parts, but sometimes misunderstandings like this arise. Similar to the white pepper powder that smells like cow manure and spoils the entire meal. I just didn't know such things exist. And I think this might be a syrup for culinary uses only (cooking, toppings) but not for drinking or composting. In my language we use 10 words to describe one thing, so it's a bit a shocker for me to learn that the French, Portuguese, English all use one word to describe everything :-) And in France they have hundreds of kinds of grapes, but just half of groselha? And the $66 price tag is a shocker as well. Regarding 1 part syrup 10 parts vodka I did try that one, literally and it still tastes bad and overwhelmingly sweet :-) I got poisoning from that syrup or upset stomach and felt bad for two days and thus the kind of mood I was in. It is out of my system now and I decided to keep it and give it away to a friend.

  • 9 years ago

    They're the same genus.

    $66? It was 3 in your first post. What is your language, just out of interest?

    PicoAzores thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 9 years ago

    It was albert_135 who found it for $66. Apparently it's cheaper close to where they make it. :-]

    I'd just dump it into the compost. If you have fruit flies or other bugs, stir it in a bit. It may not add much to the compost but diverting waste from the sewer and landfill is also a goal of composting.

    PicoAzores thanked toxcrusadr
  • 9 years ago

    Yeah, just compost it. You might get a weird smell but it will go away after a few days or a week. Maybe an alcohol or vinegar smell, but as the sugar gets digested it will go away.

    PicoAzores thanked HighColdDesert
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    floral, my language is an Arkansian ''river rat'' dialect. Discrepancies between an earlier post and a later post are usually the result of an old wireless keyboard and or AAADD.

    PicoAzores thanked albert_135   39.17°N 119.76°W 4695ft.
  • 9 years ago

    I was wondering what Pico's native language was in which they use 10 words to describe one thing. And English does not use one word to describe Gooseberries and Red Currants. That's just a mistranslation by the syrup manufacturer.

    I didn't read Albert's post, only Pico's latest, and so it sounded as if s/she had found it at $66. I shouldn't skim.

    PicoAzores thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 9 years ago

    Now I am curious what a Arkansian language is. I have a pretty thick Boston accent and have found people can have a hard time understanding me sometimes. Non-native speakers can have a especially hard time.

    PicoAzores thanked John Donovan
  • 9 years ago

    My post was not to belittle Portugal. It maybe limited to the company who makes it. It was to describe the syrup that caused sore throat, esophageal spasm etc. I guess I inhaled too much of it (200 grams?). I am still suffering symptoms from that syrup and it's not even good for a compost... :-)

    I'm keeping it to donate if any local friend wants it and after no one takes it I will pour it into a dumpster and recycle the bottle after washing it as I always do wash all my food vessels before recycling them so that my recycling bins do not stink up.There is a reason why we all have chosen English as the language of international communication, because of its simplicity. My language is much more complex and archaic, but I believe there are more complicated languages if not archaic, such as Finnish and Hungarian. Yet to stay on topic I would like to thank everyone for your comments and suggestions trying to resolve this incident. I have read about and found out that actually Gooseberry and Currant belongs to the same family, what a surprise.

  • 9 years ago

    >> I have a pretty thick Boston accent and have found people can have a hard time understanding me

    You mean 'hahd' time don't you? :-P

    As for English being 'simple,' I had no idea. :-D

    I saw this the other day on the web:

    Consider the following sentence.

    "She told him that she loved him."

    The word "only" can be inserted before or after ANY word in this sentence. I'm not sure it makes English complicated but it's definitely...something!

    PicoAzores thanked toxcrusadr
  • 9 years ago

    Toxcrusadr - I can say the same sentence in two words (in my language), but usually it is the other way around. How about this?

    Only she told him that she loved him.

    She only told him that she loved him.

    She told only him that she loved him.

    She told him that she only loved him.

    She told him that she loved him only.

    Those sound wrong/unnecessary (makenosensian) to me. I like to make up new (English) words.

    Having hääd täim or hąd tajm etc. can be described in other world languages for them to be able to pronounce it almost correctly. Almost.

    Don't forget to add something about composting GROSS-ELHA SYRUP, to keep it on topic :-) Although I don't care much about that.


  • 9 years ago

    Gooseberry and Currants are not just in the same family. They are in the same genus. They can hybridise. Hence jostaberries.

    And you are still being coy about your mother tongue. Is it a secret?

    PicoAzores thanked floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK
  • 9 years ago

    To add to Tox's post about the quirks of the English language, putting the "only" in different places changes the context of the sentence.

    Don't get me started on commas!

    "Let's eat Grandma"

    "Let's eat, Grandma"


    PicoAzores thanked rayzone7
  • 9 years ago
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    Comma can get you in coma. Grändma, let's eat Jöstaberry! Wow, this is nöö to me. I'm open to purchasing jöstaberry seeds! Tö satisfy your curiousity: I am from Cöyland and our language is called Deódaside, a branch of Cöy language family. Now you will surely know what it is.

  • 9 years ago
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    ''Gooseberry and Currants are not just in the same family. They are in the same genus.''

    I didn't know that. It seems I learn something new every decade.


  • 9 years ago

    That looks like a form of Gaelic.

  • 9 years ago
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    Once we had a party in our native Peasantwyll and my pöör next döör neighbours asked to join in. I told them, if you follow our rules and standards, welcome to join in! So they did. After an höur or sö I crossed paths with a somehow drunken chap in the back yard who was partying with everyone else, the other neighbours and my family and I asked him: "Do I know you?". He responded: "I am your next door neighbour Xhrawhrsftwydd and I did leavft the toilet lidd as you required, so what's the mätter?". Yet his name and even his face was so unusual, unfamiliar to me, to us, that I could not recognise him, so from there on we called him Deódaside. Pardon my poor French. I am now sure you know what country I am originally from. It sometimes is known as West Archaïcia, part of Northern Europe.

  • 9 years ago

    OK - I'm going to guess Estonian?

  • 9 years ago

    Where's that? You must be on Earth.

  • 9 years ago

    Oh, well. it seems I'll never know. My first degree was in Linguistics and my interest is serious. You piqued genuine curiosity by your references to 'my language'. But if for some reason you really don't want to say, that's the end of that.

  • 9 years ago

    floral, by PM, but how?

  • 9 years ago

    I am a former victim of id theft and I take online privacy seriously. Too much info in one place and it can cause problems.

  • 9 years ago

    In my first language we have 5 names for gooseberry, 5 names for currants, 17 names for blueberry, 6 names for bilberry, 3 names for strawberry...

    None of them grow in my garden cause of climate, miss all of them so much.

  • 9 years ago

    What climate do you live in? You can find blueberries almost up at the Arctic circle and there are strawberries that do well in cold climates. Alpine strawberries have a very short fruiting season but are very cold tolerant.

  • 9 years ago
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    PicoAzores, sorry for off topic, but even if someone has soil available it is not less trouble to grow what you want. :))) BTW, it is about missing gooseberry :))))

    John Donovan, I live on SE 7b. It is too hot and humid and too many pine trees around for gooseberries and currants just to grow and not enough chill hours to fruit.

    I 'd planted strawberries several attempts, seen berries, but just seen them, never had a chance to put it in my mouth due too many squirrels around. So, I gave up on them.

    I had planted blueberry several times, and it didn't survive either, I don't know why, I just gave up on it.

    We have many U-pick farms around, where I could fill my lust for strawberries and blueberries. But, of course, I have no clue how they keep harvest from squirrels and bugs and how much chemicals I ate on top of every berry. They taste much better than those from a grocery store though.

    One time I 've been on U-pick farm when they started to spray against pests their vegetable patch nearby. I could not breath. I run. I still noticed that smell in air 2 mi away. Never went to that farm again and don't have really big desire to visit another.

    PicoAzores thanked avgusta_gw
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    Floral, it's LT.

  • 9 years ago

    Augusta, I think I know what language you are talking about. It would be nice to see all those words. Been to Augusta, GA many times. Used to live in Columbia, SC. I wouldn't do that again anywhere in the South except maybe south FL and there are good reasons for why immigrants should stick with large cities.

  • 9 years ago

    When you struggle past the stage creating soil on stones... which may take a few decades... or milleniums... or a million bucks... all your troubles just begin. But when you have soil and throw seeds into it, something will grow in it anyway.

    That's right! Never go to farms where they use chemicals. Especially who support Monsanto.