Good morning I am hoping someone can give me some advice. I always start my tomatoes from seed myself. Long story short. Was doing wonderful. Was getting 2nd set of leaves started. I went out of town for a few days and while I was gone my light blew when I got home my tomatoe seedlings look horrible cuz of not enough light. Is it possible to save them or should I just start new ones? I replaced the bulbs and put the light on them as soon as I could. Anything I can do to help them other than give them light and leave alone? Or should I just face the fact that I killed my babies and need to start new ones?

I don't normally do this but ..... our colleague "Dog" has touched a nerve with me.

To whom are your referring in your rant .... Dog? Your broad statements regarding this forum are inappropriate. I beg to differ with your assessment. My experiences have been far different from yours.

I have been a market grower for 41 years.

Go on home and please keep your elitist attitude to yourself.

Good day from an "advanced grower" who's not on TV!

Shell 6A

Dog, if GardenWeb is for beginners, why you still post here? Did your last crop fail to germinate?

Angel,

Could you please start a new thread because your questions may go unnoticed here. If you could take a picture of your seedlings or tell us if they still standing, it would be helpful.

Linda

Yes, I agree the dog was very rude!!!

Yes, TV is very restrictive. I do browse there occasionally. If they would let non-members view attached pictures it wouldn't be so bad but for whatever stupid reason that is verboten.

Hafamily5 and Shell, have either of you had your accounts activated?

Yes, a few weeks ago.

I applied in early March and still nothing....I just like to view other people's photos...K sera sera whatever will be will be......

I have been a member at TomatoVille for many years and find it a wonderful forum. It is privately owned and managed and still has no advertising. Also people who get too snarky get kicked off. It can take a long time to get approved. There are any number of professional growers and tomato breeders who make their home there and I have learned a lot. This and TomatoVille are the only gardening forums I frequent and they both have good appeal to me anyway.

Thanks for your thoughts, Linda. I appreciate Tomatoville members' enjoyment for engaging on just about everything. GW is great for getting helpful feedback but I've noticed that many topic introductions here are met with a "look up an old thread" response.

It wouldn't be so bad... but the website says that it'll be reviewed in 12 hrs and in the rarest of occasions take 24, and to contact them in those instances... then the admins email rejects contact. It's pretty frustrating... and kind of amazing that it's still apparently the most active forum on tomato gardening despite the fact that it takes MONTHS to register and they don't warn you of that fact at all. Yes, they foot the bill for the site and that's great, but they should at least amend the site to explain that it will be weeks or months to be reviewed, not hours. There's no legitimate reason not to. Evidently it's been like this for years and the registration messages still say something like "It'll take up to 24 hrs but usually much less"... that's just silly. I wrote a two page introduction explaining my background and why I was there and looking for advice. Detailing projects related to tomato growing I was working on and explaining why I was glad to find such a forum, etc... Then over the two weeks that passed, I gradually edited the post (saved in a .doc) to reflect the updates as the unexpected delay (attributed at the time to the holidays) pushed into my introductory post... then when I found the posts online from 2016 until now where people mention that it now takes weeks, months... maybe years to get a registration reviewed, I just deleted it. Hell, I'll probably be on my second or third crop of the project tomato garden I was building by the time I have any hope of being able to ask for advice on it. What's the point of that? It's Internet communication that is less efficient than the pony express... effectively neutering the biggest benefit of the Internet as a vehicle for these sorts of communities.

I gave up on Tomatoville years ago.

TV approved a few hundred new members just a few months ago. I'm not a TV member but I noticed a lot of newbies posting there sometime around late summer/early fall. It's been pretty quiet there recently.

I applied two or three times over the last half-dozen years. Never got any response. Maybe I'm on their blacklist for some reason.

Been waiting 6 months approval and Today the website down. Too looked a great forum with great people.

Joel - TV is back up now.

Thanks but wonder why it's 6 months and still no approval? Can't look at pics or post. Bad business

To be more specific, I've had a login for a long time, but whenever I try to post, I get a "Oops! You do not have sufficient privileges to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons: ... If you are new here and are trying to post, your account may be awaiting activation. This can take up to 24 hours. If you believe you are getting this message in error, please contact Mischka immediately via email: webmaster@tomatoville.com - thanks!"

So I've done that, repeatedly, with no answer and no activation. Yes, bad business, but as far as I can tell, it's not a business. Now, Mischka is a dog, I believe, so typing on a keyboard is probably hard. Carolyn Male, who I think is a moderator, is still around.

Dan, did you ever go to the 2 cents Forum and introduce yourself? It's such a shame that you're nearly there, but not.....

Linda

What is the 2 cents forum? Never heard of it.

Sorry. I should have said "Town Hall". It's where newbies have to go to introduce themselves, after they have done that, they can post anywhere. (The 2 cents forum is for Off Topic discussions).

Linda

If the Tomatoville moderator can't tell me what to do in order to be able to post, I don't see why I should bother with it. The "How to become a Tomatovillian" page never says anything about the Town Hall. It says "Once you submit your application, you will automatically be an e-mail to confirm your membership request and email address." Never happened. I never turned into an e-mail and, forgiving their omission of a word, never received one either.

Frankly, I've lost interest in them.

Oh dear! The email would have instructed you to post an intro on "Town Hall" and then you'd have been all set. Bummer that you never received it :(.

Linda

To be perfectly honest, I grow tomatoes, and I like them, but I've lost any fetish for them. I harvest tomatoes for just two months out of the year. Other months it's too cold, or too hot, or too late in the season. But I've really gotten into melons (melon villains, anyone?) which are wonderful, and bear for five or six months.

This discussion made me curious so I clicked over to that forum and immediately found this advice about joining:

"Do *not* register using a mobile device connected to a cellular network. Our security software will automatically reject and delete your membership application without notification. Membership applications submitted from proxy IP addresses are also automatically rejected and deleted from our database without notification."

There is some other advice about how to make sure you can join. Maybe some of the people above didn't notice that advice...?

It appears that TV might have died. Their website has been down since Monday. It was also down off and on the last couple weeks.

Site is definitely down, but I would be surprised if they don't work out the glitch, and get back up soon. Maybe Carolyn will see this and comment.

edit: It's back up.

daninthedirt,

I agree with you about growing melons...melons rule in my garden. Unfortunately, I garden in an area with cool temp. summers so some years my melons do not taste as good as other years. I still enjoy growing them and keep on trying different varieties to see which do best here. Last year I bought a couple of melons from a small independent market that were so good I thought I'd died and gone to heaven. Did not save seeds :(. I think it was called golden honeydew, that's what the sticker said.

I am a member of tv ... There are separate areas on the forum to discuss growing other things and topics. Worth joining, it's a great resource.

Well, site is up but apparently my profile is no longer a member? I updated my email address over there and suddenly became a non-member.

I've been trying to get access for over a month now - I'm just waiting for my username to be activated. It's frustrating that I can't see any pictures on the site until that happens!

I get frustrated trying to log in, here.

With the changes awhile back, it took a few years before I could rejoin Houzz/Gardenweb. Somehow this computer just wouldn't allow it. Then after finally rejoining, I couldn't log in. That was last fall. Finally today, after attempting to log in, I get a message to go to my email account, click one button, and I log in from there.

I missed a couple of years of hosting tomato, pepper and bean swaps, here, and wonder if I'll be able to log in about 6 months from now. :(

Luckily, I joined Tomatoville way back when there was no waiting time.

I have contacted TomatoVille several times for over a month regarding my membership. Never heard back from them. Those on here that defend their poorly managed forum, we could use that manure for our gardens. If they want to close forum to w members just state it on the site. Don't waste everybody's time!

I agree, what a joke!

Dr. Carolyn Male passed away a few months ago so I doubt anyone will pop in from TV to comment on this.

I know Tormato and Labradors are members of TV. It seems they only let new members in a couple times a year. I've never tried to register myself but it would be nice to see the picture links. I have grown several new tomato varieties that I've read about there through the years.

OMG... I thought there was something wrong with me as well regarding joining tomatoville. - I was so excited to have discovered the Forum and registered with them. No Reply :(

It once was easy to register there, the proof being that someone like me could do it. ;)

It is not closed to new members, it just takes time. And, while I haven't read the requirements for joining recently, it may still be that users have to make a post (in some area of the site) to activate their account. I'll make a post at Tomatoville in the General forum (which people here can read) asking about the process of joining.

Gary

hello Gary, thanks heaps, much appreciated :)))) fingers and Tomatoes crossed!

Thanks Gary. I just saw your post over on TV.

I've been a member here as well as Tville for over 10 years. Tomatoville is privately owned and operated by one man who pays all the bills himself, there is no advertising, and no membership fees. It is a sideline for him, and he maintains it as a hobby as he finds time. So if he has other more pressing matters to take care of, Tville maintenance has to wait. I agree, the instructions for joining should be revised and updated to indicate possible longer wait times which seems to be the norm in these later years. He also has experienced many more hacker attacks and had problems with the company hosting his server, all of which he has to work to resolve himself, which is why occasionally the site is offline for a few hours or even a couple of days.

His vetting procedures for checking on valid email addresses in order to weed out potential hacker problems likely slows things down too. Since groups of new users appear in the Town Hall section in batches every few weeks or months, it doesn't look like he works on them one by one as received, so new requests may be in a longer backlog lineup. You are not being deliberately slighted! One thing I would not do, is to send a nasty email demanding he speed up. He has a low tolerance for bad manners and argumentative users on his site.

There is plenty of good information to read there without joining. Seeing pictures would be nice, but hardly a reason not to read the majority of posts which don't even have them. There are some sections you can't access as a lurker, but plenty of others that you can. Each of these message boards has their own atmosphere, a combination of the ownership's goals as well as the community of folks who post there. Tville may not be for everyone.

Hello, just popped into TV... and saw that forum looks really really good with the new Colours! I hope my Membership will be accepted soon. Fingers crossed! :))

Does anyone know what happened to Tomatoville?

My Name is Mrs.Justice {Farmer Joyce Beggs from Hampton, Virginia of Angel Field Heirloom Tomatoes. I misses all my "Tomato Friends, Amen!!

The owner shut it down, he was was tired of the heat discussions people had and the fighting. Why would anyone fight and argue about tomatoes but it even happens here. Someone started tomato-talk after it TV shut down.

I wish they had given Tomatoville to me, as I love and forgive everyone. Amen!

I am just a Farmer. Maybe someone can bring it back. How about you? Do you have good contacts with the Owner of Tomatoville?

Farmer, Joyce Beggs

After TV shut down, patrons scattered like seeds in the wind. Several landed at Tomato Junction, which is a forum that was created in response to the TV shutdown. Pop over and take a look. You may see some familiar folks.

Yes, I did, Amen!! I just found Worth and KissS. I am keeping up with Anneliese Schmid and growing her Yellow Perfection Cherry with Potato Leafs. These cherries had a unique taste of Lemon. They are handling the heat well and are very productive. IF I did not suffer from Dyslexia, I would have taken over TV and kept it alive. I feel like I lost so many Friends.

Please tell the Owner of TV that I love Him in Jesus' name, for hanging in there for so many Years. Before he closed Tomatoville, I presented information about my 29-year fight to preserve and protect my historic farmhouse and family up to the U.S. Supreme Court, just before T V closed down. I bit. He was shocked. I was unable to continue my research on identifying all the Historical Tomatoes grown here on this land and studying the law, too. I lost both projects at once. I found the Buffalo Heart Giant Tomatoes from Gary Ibsen's collection. Well, it's good to hear from you again.

I'm sorry, I meant MissS. She is being a good Cheerleader for my people with the tomato projects. It was good to hear from Worth again as well. I am delighted that I found most of them again at Tomatoville.

I have found a contractor from Newport News who will let my husband and me help build a heating unit upstairs, to keep safe form Flood Waters and paying out over 30,000.00 pre flooding event that is never covered. We are going to be completely retirement mood years down the road, and we need to make sure we can financially survive Flooding Events that are not covered. I wanted to tell all my friends at Tomatoville ; What we were living through. as Farmers. Losing my Many Cases in the U S Supreme Court and Tomatoville at the same time was hard on me. But my Faith to forgive was stronger that any nightmare., Along with the Hawaiian Dance Spirit in my soul to Relax. I was Blessed to spent a year in Hawaii during my husband assignment. I was also Blessed to study with the Students at Williams and Mary Law and Blessed with the Hawaiian Farming Skills

Please tell the Owner of Tomatoville: we all were sorry to sharing information away from just tomatoes. But I need help when things were going wrong for me n the U S Supreme Court. I wanted ti reach out for help for the first time. Studying studying the Law to help my family for over 29 years is a long time. But, I am Free now.

Thank you for helping me Find my Friends again., Amen!

"Losing my Many Cases in the U S Supreme Court".

What Cases are you talking about? Cases about flooding, or farming or something else?

" things were going wrong for me n the U S Supreme Court. "

So you personally have a case taken to the supreme court? Like XYZ corp v. Angel field heirloom tomatoes that has been taken to the highest court in the country? You must be loaded paying all those lawyer expenses.

I do think the owner of tomatoville misses you too.

I did all the legal work myself, through my studies with Legal Students. I would not ask them for any legal advice. They would direct me to the specific areas of the Constitution that I needed to study to prepare my comprehensive argument for my legal work. The U.S. Supreme Court Clerks tried to work with me. I would take my Legal work out in my farming fields, while working on my tomatoes to meet deadlines, defending my Family and Home.

When legal work got hard for me, I would use spiritual relaxation dancing, which I learn from the Hawaiians, to clear my mind. I was a pro se litigant, representing my Family and Home Flooding Case up to the Supreme Court for a total of 29 years.

We are getting love from our community as many around us, realizing I was trying to save the Food & Farming history of my Grand-Grandfather during the Civil War. I was born with a Farmer's Spirit like him in New Jersey. During the summer, I would go to the South Carolina-North Carolina Border to help family members and work on the farm, just like him. I just learned that Gary Ibsen just died from Tomato-Junction. I wanted to discuss my pending cases with Dr. Carolyn and him. I just prayed to God, and received help on my husband's long assignment from the Hawaiians who were the housekeepers. Who prepared me spiritually for the next round, up to the United States Supreme Court, when I showed them pictures from home, Amen!! When you suffer from dyslexia, concentration is everything.

The Love I am feeling from neighbors makes it easy to forgive, as they understand the importance of my mission of the Contraband Slaves of Fort Monroe. The Iris part of my Family members in South Carolina are also understanding the importance of my mission.

Thanks to Mr. Gary Ibsen, I have just found the description of the Big Tomato brought to the United States by Irish immigrants from South Carolina, who helped my Great-Grandfather get to Fort Monroe in the Hands of General Benjamin Butler. After the Civil War, he married a nice Irish Girl from that farm in South Carolina. I am proud to have Irish Blood running through my body.

I feel free as I dance under my historical green apple tree, planted during the Civil War.

I have done great things with my life. I seem Senators Earn their Angel Wings in Congress by working with Women's groups from Texas, North Carolina, and Newport News, Virginia.

I will send you my name so you can look up my many Complex Cases, up to the USSC.

Pray for Gary Ibsen family.

Hello kevin9408

Did you get my Private Message. Hopefully you are reading my legal work.

I am going to town today that helped me find my historical Home here in Hampton to help the Churches here collect Items for the Texas Victims of all that flooding. This gives me a chance to give back from all that help they gave me whiling working on that Bill in Congress I told you about in my Private message to you that started off in Texas . It good to be Free of all that Legal work, to finally give back to this Town here in Virginia called Newport News. Somehow these Churches from all denominations come together during Serious Crisis here in America; like the flooding in Texas. I feel Blessed just to know that they are Real in Special Cities across The United States addressing the Human Needs of the American People during Serious Crisis and War. . They have ask the public for New Personal Items for these Flooding Victims. We will be making it Happen by going to store to store. I will be giving every Fruit and Vegetable to the poor this week in Gary Ibsen's Name this week.

I realized suffering from Dyslexia; God has my eyes to see his true miracles differently that others.

You have a nice day, Amen!