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Alberta Red Apple?

9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago

Does anybody have this one?

Think it's a terrific cider apple and shouldn't get lost.

Seems not really all that common ...have never heard about nor tasted at the show.

Reason I ask because I found out last fall that it is a pretty nice apple when I was juicing it for a member of the fruit group. Nice looking fairly large apple, had a little pink flesh and was making pink juice, a very juicy apple! Talked to that guy at the scion wood exchange and he said that he just loves this juice. He gave me some scion's and will be grafting. He said it's not Alberta Buff. Alberta Buff is a softer apple..nothing special according to Bernie.

This info. from DNA

Alberta Red
Handsome, big, shiny, red apple. Good, crisp eating. Another rescue
from obscurity by Doc E. Originates from 1960 University of Alberta
breeding program.

Comments (9)

  • 9 years ago

    Nope never heard of it, but it does sound nice. Where did he get his tree from? I have a publication from 1946 called Tree fruits Grown in Prairie Orchards and they list an Alberta but I don't think it is this one, the description is not the same.

  • 9 years ago

    Sometimes apples become collateral damage when people redo their landscape, so there may be less around than expected.

    I scanned the GRIN site and the U of S gene bank looking for the Alberta Red apple. Is this a new name? Maybe it was not officially named and goes under the breeding number or another name?

  • 9 years ago

    Assume it's a old name, ...at least as old as Norkent. This guy with the apples said that there was a Saskatchewan Red and Saskatchewan bluff also. OH...I asked today what about eating qualities, he said nice...he cut the last ones up today and flavor was still very good...but skin wrinkled which is expected. Their apples from Westlock area had zero blemishes. Have asked Thean and he never heard about.

  • 9 years ago

    That is a very good storage time, longer than most apples around here. Not too many last beyond fall.

  • 9 years ago

    I've asked Gabor Botar...former Teacher at Univ. of Alberta in Horticultural Technologist (retired)

    Sorry, I know nothing about this apple. As for general history, the
    thousands of apple seedlings in the Prairie Fruit Breeding Program were
    evaluated in a restricted way. Testers from the various provinces would
    come together on a particular day and compare the apples from their own
    orchards. Of course, some of the same fruit was not quite ripe, some was
    overripe, some was just right. Selections for naming were made from the
    lines that happened to be generally good all around. This way, good
    selections were made but little allowance was made for identifying
    excellent fruit that was truly early or late but still reliably
    productive. If the testers had gotten together several times during each
    fruiting season for a few years (an expensive proposition, I will
    grant), a lot more good early-, mid, & late-season lines would now
    be registered. Ieuan and others have done a great service in "rescuing"
    what would otherwise have been considered rejects by the testing
    institutions, but of course the problem is that we usually have
    incomplete pedigree records for these apples.
    If you have the 2016 Prairie Garden, see Dr. John Davidson's article on
    'Norkent' to get a taste for how difficult it is to trace an apple's
    parentage even when official records are kept...
    I had collected a few scions for you this spring but they were mostly
    curiosities (e.g. Japanese hawthorn, which is an excellent rootstock for
    'Ure' pear) so you did not really miss out on much. Next year I hope to
    be able to collect scions at our old place again. Our little Evans
    sapling here is 60cm high so it will need a couple more seasons before
    it is tall enough to take some sweet-cherry scions (which I hope to get
    from you !)...
    Re all your rodent damage, the good folks at the Green and Gold Garden
    (who manage our former orchard) took my advice and sprayed all the trees
    & bushes with egg emulsion. This was a time-consuming exercise, but
    believe it or not, this spring not a single tree or bush was lost to
    mammal damage ! I was truly impressed !
    Cheers,
    GB







  • 9 years ago

    Incredibly good info, I wonder how many of these seedlings did make it and are still holed up in someone's backyard. Today I am going to check out a local farm where Les Kerr used to visit and plant fruit trees for the owner. I am not hopeful that they kept any, but the conversation should be interesting.

    On another note, Japanese Hawthorn would it be good for other pears, and reliably winter hardy here?

  • 9 years ago

    It would work I think ...just a matter of how many years it would last, unless you put a compatible hawthorn interstem to help compatibility but I don't think it's a sure thing.

  • 4 years ago

    I have an Alberta Red tree I purchased it about 12 or 13 years ago from DNA Gardens as a 1 year sapling It froze out one winter but has grown steadily since, espaliered on my fence It looks like it will bloom for the first time this spring

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