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Trovita orange questions

9 years ago

Hello there,

I've lurked for awhile, but this will be my first time posting. I'm hoping someone out there will be able to answer a few questions about my Trovita orange that has just arrived.

Here's a little background info:

I live in Minnesota and will be growing the tree in a container. During colder months/cooler days I plan on keeping the plant in my sunroom. During the summer, I'm hoping to have the tree outside, but this may be prevented depending on how temperamental the weather is. Minnesota tends to be very humid in the summer and I have struggled in the past with figuring out a soil that dries out fast enough. The tree is currently in the nursery container and is approximately one year old. The current container is about 9 inches tall and 4-6 inches across.

Here are my questions:

First, and most importantly, I'm trying to figure out a good soil mix for this muggy climate. I'd like something that gets fairly dry within a week or so, but I'm not sure how to go about this. Four winds has this mix on their website:

https://www.fourwindsgrowers.com/store/growing-tools-a-accessories.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=417&category_id=2

Is this a good starting point? If so, does it need to be amended somehow? Otherwise, any suggestions would be appreciated.

For the container, would it be reasonable for me to plant it in a container that is 10 inches deep? Should I be worried about a particular width in relation to the height of the container? Or is it not that fussy? I was planning to use a terra-cotta pot, but would something else be better suited/more breathable?

My next question is about fertilizing. Is it best to hold off on fertilizing for awhile after planting the tree in its pot? (My instinct says yes...but an expert opinion would be great) I also am unsure about how often/how much fertilizer I should plan to use. Heck, type (brand) of fertilizer even escapes me! Are root tonics necessary/recommended?

If I sound clueless, that's because I kind of am. I'd like to give this plant the best chance possible of survival and appreciate any advice you can give.

Thanks!

Comments (26)

  • 9 years ago

    Hi Adri, the Trovita is a great choice if you are new at citrus. I live in northern Ohio and have one that I have kept alive for the last nine years. :) Depending on the size of the plant, but if it smaller I would probably go with a 12" wide container. There are better potting mixes but I use the miracle gro cactus mix without too many problems, just watch your watering in the winter. You can amend with some perlite if you want. I used too, but not sure if it makes a difference. I wouldn't worry about fertilizing right away after transplanting, but eventually a good all purpose fertilizer is fine. I look for something with a 3-1-1 ratio or something close to that. I usually fertilize when I see new growth coming on. Great plant ,pretty forgiving for citrus and does well indoors in the winter. Good luck.

  • 9 years ago

    Hello there!

    Yes, I am fairly new to citrus. I had one once before, but it didn't survive. I think mainly due to lack of light (my old apartment was a dungeon) and the soil just wouldn't seem to dry out. So, I'm trying again and hoping to get it right. What is Ohio like in terms of humidity? I tried the Miracle Grow cactus soil and amended it with some perlite, but it was just too heavy and stayed wet for a long time. Thanks for the well wishes. My fingers and toes are crossed!

  • 9 years ago

    Welcome! I don't have that variety but have heard good things about it. I would NOT use a terra-cotta pot because it will get too cold during winter. Most of us container growers use plastic pots - preferably not black. I would also search for 5-1-1 mix on this forum. That is the mix many of us use. It's effective, dries out quickly, and is not difficult to make. For fertilizer most of us use Oscomote Plus, Foliage Pro, and a Peters one that I forget the name of. You can do it! We will help you!

  • 9 years ago

    Ohio can be pretty humid in the summer, I think our weather is very similar in the summer. I would take Laura's advice and try the 5-1-1. It will definitely help you in the winter and make sureto find the sunniest window you can when you over winter. You will be fine.

  • 9 years ago

    Hello Laura,

    Do you suppose terra-cotta will be too cold even if it is kept inside during the winter?

    For the soil mix you recommend, do the numbers correspond to the ratio of ingredients? I think I have heard of a few mixes roaming around on this forum, but I wonder how available the ingredients will be in my area. Sounds like some trips to the garden center are in order.

    Fig- I appreciate the encouragement! I'm very lucky to have a sunroom now with lots of windows. If there's a shred of light in the bleak Minnesota winter sky, this room will soak it up!

  • 9 years ago

    Good luck Adri.

  • 9 years ago

    Oh your tree is beautiful! Thanks for sharing!

  • 9 years ago

    Oh thank you very much, Laura! This is all so very helpful. I have spent so much time reading about this stuff, but I still felt like I was doing so much guess work. It's so helpful to hear the names of what to use rather than "well draining."

    I can already tell that you are right about everyone being very nice on this forum. :-) thanks again!

  • 9 years ago

    Yes, that's it! A big bag like that should be more than enough!

  • 9 years ago

    Wonderful! For the perlite, should I be looking for anything special? More of a coarse variety?

  • 9 years ago
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    My 2 sense of input.

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    Lots of drainage holes in your container.
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    I set my trees up on a vacuum chamber and use my vacuum to draw 10 seconds of fresh air each day through out the winter indoor times.
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    Lots of light. Use floor lamps with spot/flood lights that direct the light onto the tree. Don't use a CFL spiral bulb. Most of that light will miss the tree. Need heat, Heat with spot lights not electric resistant heaters. A CFL flood light puts out 85% heat and 15% light that will turn directly into heat as soon as it lands on any surface and becomes 100% heat. Be prepared for insect invasions all winter. Everyone of us has that problem. No exceptions. Have your sprayer and insecticides/fungicides on hand NOW or as soon as you get to the store. It is imperative that you have these things before your first infestation. It is a lot quicker to get the supplies and mix than to run around from store to store, then spray. Your tree will be dead before you can get the shopping done.

    I believe that in your area the bottom half of the sun does not clear the horizon ot and near winter solstice. You will need to add light for your tee to do well.

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    6b Steve

  • 9 years ago

    Yes, coarse perlite is best, but the only way I have found the nice coarse one was to buy a massive bag...perhaps you will have better luck ;-). The garden lime and other stuff is easy to find at any garden center.

  • 9 years ago

    Poncirusguy-

    your setup is quite impressive! Thank you for sharing with me. And thanks for the tip about the insecticides. Do you have any recommendations for what I should use?

  • 9 years ago

    Laura-

    I think I may be stuck with a large bag as well. I'll keep looking, but I haven't found much so far.

  • 9 years ago

    Neem oil, Safer insecticidal soap, and any brand fungicide suitable for food plants. This will cover everything that could be a threat to your tree.

    Go ahead and get the big bag. You will use it on the second/3rd up potting.

    6b Steve

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks, Steve!

    Does this still apply to plants that are kept exclusively indoors? Do they still end up with infestations to the same degree? (I likely will have mine part time indoors and part time outdoors, but I'm just curious.)


  • 9 years ago

    It is in the winter that the pest are the worst. One the trees are outside most problem go away and com back late fall and through out the cold till set out time.

    6b Steve

  • 9 years ago

    Interesting! That's good to know, thank you!

  • 9 years ago

    We have a Trovita (Arizona Sweet Orange) in Tucson. It is not in a pot but planted in ground. Planted about 4-5 years ago. I think it is likely a semi-dwarf because it is not getting as big as I thought it would. Lots of fruit and it is very very sweet. The juice is so sweet, that we mix it with our Rio Red grapefruit juice to make it less so.


    This was taken this past February. The rapidly growing Lisbon lemon is just behind it.

  • 9 years ago

    Lovely tree! I wish I could plant mine in the ground. I'm sure it will eventually get some fruit on it planted in a pot, but not nearly as much as it would in the ground.

  • 9 years ago

    I agree Doc. very nice tree. It is amazing how much better trees grow in ground than in containers.

    6b Steve

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks for all of your help, everyone!

    I finally got all of the ingredients together to put my tree in a pot. I spoke to a man at a local garden center and he recommended a pot with a diameter just 2 inches wider than what the tree was currently in. He said this would help with maintaining the appropriate moisture level. Only time will tell at this point I suppose. I used slightly less peat moss and subbed in slightly more perlite. Hopefully this keeps things from getting too soggy. Fingers crossed!

  • 7 years ago

    I have a Trovita orange tree. it's in a pot on my patio with plenty of sun. it's only 2 years old but I was under the impression it would produce fruit every year and lots of it. I have had blooms but they always fall off after the petals drop and then I get no oranges. I've noticed the leaves are a little spotted or faded looking with a hint of yellow. I've fertilized it with citrus fertilizer and have lots of new growth but no blooms or oranges. Any suggestions as to what may be wrong?

  • 7 years ago

    Tree is not big enough to support fruit growth

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