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Will the real Halcyon PLEASE stand up?

A few years ago, I bought 6 Halcyons for an arrangement with
alternating Junes around a tree. After a while, I suspected that half the
Halcyons were something else. Leaves were smaller, plants shorter, and they
weren’t as blue. The more time went by, the more I was sure that I had 2 of a
different blue, and one of a yet smaller and different blue. I marked the 3
wrong ones, and waited to see if more time would make them look like Halcyon. No.
As time passed the right ones just got more Halcyon-esque, with leaf shapes
just like the maturing Junes, and a beautiful frosty blue color. The wrong ones
stayed wrong.

Meanwhile, in the fall of 2015, I had the chance to buy on
clearance, 5 Halcyon gallons (or so marked). I put them in my back garden,
figuring I would have some replacements, but wouldn’t plug them in til I was
sure. I already had 2 back there. (I
thought). By last fall I figured that only 2 of THOSE putative 7 Halcyons hanging
out in the back garden WERE Halcyon. The rest, maybe Blue Cadet. Or something.
So last fall I marked the 2 I thought were right to transfer this spring.
(Still short one Halcyon.)

I moved out the 3 wrong ones today, and transplanted them
into a totally non-competitive new bed where they don’t need to match ANYTHING.

Then I went to dig up the True Halcyons, going to the ones
I’d marked last year, and….started to wonder. Now I think I have ONE
Halcyon back there, and one that is…not quite right, but righter than the
others. Or, geez: have I been staring at these too long, and they are ALL
turning into Halcyons?!

I don’t want to repeat this exercise down the road. Whatever
goes in with the Junes, now, stays there. It's very hard to dig in there.

THIS ONE below is Halcyon, I am
pretty sure. It’s got the frosty blue color, and leaf shape looks right.

So…this shot below is the "not-quite Halcyon" leaf at the far left with
the long stem, with leaves of 2 of the ones I pulled out of the arrangement. (Somehow the leaves don't looks blue here, though they do on the whole plant)

Second is the whole plant for that left hand leaf: Halcyon,
or not? I call it "Almost-Maybe-Halcyon #
1" , below:

But what about these others?! Arghh!

Maybe-Halcyon # 2:
below

Maybe-Halcyon # 3:
below

Help!!!! Thank you!

Comments (8)

  • 9 years ago

    Forgot to mention, keep in mind too that longer stems can be due to plants in shady areas stretching out to "reach" for the sun, and shorter stems can be due to plants having been planted deeper. And again, blueness can be affected by both the amount of sun and overhead watering. With the placement of yours, I would guess that the amount of tree roots that each plant has "choking" around it would play a role too (in addition to other plants in close proximity that are taking water and nutrients away from it). In any event, whatever is going on, try to enjoy them more than going crazy over them :) Yours look quite blue, and there aren't too many very blue hostas of small-medium size out there, but they are all nice once established, which yours look to be. If anything, I would remove some of the plants around the Halcyons to give them more room to shine.

    linnea56 (zone 5b Chicago) thanked Kindness Matters (NE Ohio 6a)
  • 9 years ago

    Thanks, Pretty Birds. Yes, the pics all look bluer than the
    plants do in reality. Except for the “Known” Halcyon in the first pic.

    The position at the front of that raised bed was meant to be
    temporary, as soon as I was sure who was correct and also had another bed
    ready. That other bed IS ready now, but now I’ve gotten attached to how they
    look where they are. J The geraniums around have crowded 2 of them the
    most. But those are the 2 I was sure I was going to move.

    That “temporary” bed does get more shade than where 2 or 3
    of them were supposed to go when properly ID’s. I will wait a bit. Making sure the
    Junes from the “blue and gold” circle arrangement in the front yard don’t have
    exposed roots.

  • 9 years ago

    Any more input to offer, anyone? The spaces are still waiting to be filled with the "right" Halcyons, and the bed is looking unsightly with the gaping holes from where the wrong ones were removed. I need to do something soon. Thank you.

  • 9 years ago

    Well, I'm as OCD about ID's as anyone- not knowing drives me nuts.

    But at the end of the day I'd just place in whatever is the right size and shape for the spot and be happy. I'm new to hostas but all your photos looked like all of my Halcyons to my newbie eye :)

  • 9 years ago

    They look like Halcyon to me too.

  • 9 years ago

    All the ones I showed, of the ones still planted in the ground? ?


    Could it be that of the 5 ones I bought on clearance (and dormant), in the fall of 2015, some looked less like Halycon than the others, and with greater maturity now show their proper form? When you buy 5 plants of the same size at the same time, you expect them to show mature form at the same time. But that doesn't mean they will.


    Certainly of the original 6 juvenile plants I bought for this spot, none looked suspicious at the time. They looked identical (not the mature leaf shape). It wasn't til they came up the next year that I could clearly see that half were wrong.

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    My best suggestion would be to divide the ones you think are right, and use them to fill the spaces you want to contain only Halcyons. If the divisions look different from each other in following years, then you can be pretty sure that it was a location issue rather than a wrong ID or maturity issue.