Congrats, be sure to update their progress

Yeah thats normal there has been discussions about what it means i don't find any difference when they are full grown nice work you must have the touch there are season growers that don't have your results well done

Thanks, but no special touch. Lol I'm just good at following directions on excellent advice. I just hope I can keep them alive. :)

Don't let them dry out seedlings water every day

I've been using a spray bottle to water them. Do I continue spraying? At what point do I water the conventional way?

Hi Yayi, congrats on your little babies, its fun watching them grow. The redish ones are my fav. I have 3 months old seedlings and I still only give them a spray of water. The babies need more often as u see the top soil dry, as they grow older they need les water as they can store more water in their little fat caudexes. I would never water the conventional way until much later after a few months. The newly sprouted I light water spray up to 3-4 times depends on the weather and the look of the soil.

Good Luck!

Agartta

Thank you Agartta! I'll keep spraying and taking pictures of my babies.

Great, love to see pictures, all the best with the babies :)

Looking great, Yayi! I have some babies popping up as well. Adenium arabicum 'Black RCN's (or at least I hope a few of them will turn out black skinned when mature). Also starting some mixed color obesum seed I got for free. Are yours obesums? I love to watch the bottle brush tap roots delve into the soil and then stand up the seedlings.

Whoo hoo every body is having babys i checked my baby's today i have some coming up will do pics in a couple of days but i must of had a bad batch of potting mix i have weeds all over the place

Peter - too much cow manure lol

Lol

Yayi, I am happy that you happy, we all happy.

Marie

I think every single one of my seeds sprouted. I'm officially happy AND nervous. Lol

Don't be nervous! Have a cider, kick back, and enjoy them! And if you don't drink, well I'll have one for you. ;) Meanwhile I keep eyeballing some King Crown seeds from King Adenium... hmmm...

Hi Yayi, congrats on the 100% germination success!

Patty, I don't drink often but i just might increase my intake as i enjoy the view every night. Btw, I know that seeds are usually not the same as the parent plant, but are the ones from Orient Adenium more likely than others to resemble the parent?

Thanks tan808!

I don't know yet as my Rinoa seedlings haven't bloomed. We also do not have any data from her about her line breeding or percentages but I suspect her breeding program is much like Mr. Ko's since they used to work together.

Generally if the parent plant was pink or red, you'll probably get those colors. White can throw a lot of whites but also mask other colors so depends on what's in the background. Ditto with yellows, though I think the yellows may be homozygous recessives so they may fairly dependably throw yellows most of the time unless it's out crossed or carries pinks or reds.

The iffy ones are blacks and purples from what I have read, those two being the newest recessive colors they are trying to breed for and both of which are changeable due to growing conditions and possibly maturity of the plants.

Thanks for the info Patty. I was suddenly back in my 10th grade biology class. Obviously you paid more attention than me. Lol. Either way, I'm happy with any color and I absolutely love the pink. Don't tell Peter. :)

I have been studying genetics for decades. However well that establishes the basics from one plant to another, I am still new to adeniums and it takes time to gather and collate data. In the coming years I'll fine tune and know a lot more once I have had a chance to do my own hybridizing and see and record the results. I have already observed that adeniums do not follow the more usual patterns of inheritance with variegation for example, but as I don't have access to the right tests I can't look for masker genes though I strongly suspect they are abundantly present.

Armed with those tests and results would you be able to 'tweak' your plants? Or would you just seek out specific characteristics from donor grafts or particular seeds? Sorry for the sophomoric questions but it's hard to articulate what I mean. Lol

Well, no. I do not have the means to 'tweak' the genetics without doing gene splicing which is well out of my personal range to do. I'd have to go to some university that was willing to do it and chances are it would cost me a fortune to get a plant GMO'd. I imagine UGA would be glad to do it for me if I really wanted bright blue flowers in adeniums - but it would likely me a huge investment for them to try and if the genomes required were not already mapped, it could take years to research.

However, the more I know and understand about what is going on with the genetics, the better informed I can be about making wise hybridizing choices. In /some/ cases plant material can also be chemically treated to turn off or turn on certain genetic traits which then can be reproduced via tissue culture. But again that's out of my range and I'd have to send samples to a lab to do for me, though in many cases it's not expensive and may be an option.

For example, if I send plant material to a phyto laboratory to be tissue cultured I might ask them to treat it to increase the odds of the plants becoming polyploids with extra duplicated sets of chromosomes. Polyploid plants tend to grow much larger and more robust and are commonly desired in commercial crops. In flowering plants they may also produce larger more robust plants with huge flowers - but they may also grow much more slowly, may have more brittle thicker leaves, and may flower less frequently. So it isn't always desirable.

Another thing I might could try is taking seeds and getting them irradiated. This can cause mutations faster and more frequently. Some of which may be desirable and some of which may not be. But sometimes you get lucky by damaging or changing traits you didn't want in the first place, or making them morph into something new, or splitting traits into chimeras.

Wouldn't it be nice one day evey body would celebrate if a D/R would throw a pink flower and multi colour the norm (: ahhhhhh the world would be a happier place Hyn could you fix that please .

Peter, PINK IS BEAUTIFUL!! Hahaha! :)

Hahaha, no. ;)

I like these couple i have

Those pinks are gorgeous. I wouldn't mind thise either. :)

I can't wait for these little guys to grow up. Although I am enjoying every stage. It's just like human babies. Lol

except these won't cost a fortune in diapers ...

Doing a good job i like the look of those little fatties

Went away for four days and was so happy to see the babies looking good when I got back. I was surprised to see two late bloomers and some with so many leaves. I guess it still hasn't hit me that someday, hopefully, I'll have a beautiful adenium. Here's what they look like right now...

Won't be long

Still looking great. I see some of them are getting fatter. :)

They look fantastic so far! Off to a great start. I wish I had been able to start my seedlings last year a lot earlier in the year. I'd barely got them germinated before they had to come in for the winter. Yours will have months to grow before it gets chilly! So while mine are about 10 months old now, they only look like I've been growing them for about 3 or 4 months.