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Tips for my tomato plot?

9 years ago

Hi Tomato Experts,

I really enjoy reading this forum and seeing different techniques that people use. I was hoping I could get some opinions on my tomatoes, pictured below. I basically have 3 goals.

- Grown 1 plant as vertically tall as possible to get the "wow" factor

- Get the best yield out of my plants

- Try to grow tomatoes as late as possible (usually late blight hits hard here so am trying Mountain Magic, Plum Regal and Cherrybomb)

I'm in North Vancouver, BC (Zone 8A I think?), and I will definitely reinforce the tall tomato, I know the stacked cages are too flimsy but I will attached wooden posts and tie the cages to them for more support. I had a portable greenhouse over these two beds that I just removed a couple weeks ago. My questions are:

- Should I prune them more? The tall showcase one is a Sungold and it has 6 stems right now. I know I have to space the plants themselves better next year. The caged plants are only about 1.5-2ft apart and they all pretty much have 5-7 stems. I am planning to let them all fall over once they reach the top except the tall one..

- The closeup pictures are the gold Gold Nugget that can be seen in the front left of the big picture, it already has tomatoes ripening. Should I keep removing the bottom leaves as I harvest the bottom trusses to expose the new trusses or just leave them be?

- Should I pull back the straw mulch from the stems a couple of inches? Right now it is right up against the stems.

- There are a couple of cucumber plants in these beds, some of which seem to be getting bacterial wilt. Also you can see the zucchini close by, which is starting to show signs of powdery mildew. Do these problems have the potential to negatively affect the tomato plants?

Thanks All!



Comments (11)

  • 9 years ago

    Whoa. Stacked cages. I do that because I inherited a bunch. Yes, they need more support. I ended up shoving a T-bar beside each stack and it worked well. Nice thing about doing that is that they're easy to move around between seasons.

    Hrib thanked daninthedirt (USDA 9a, HZ9, CentTX, Sunset z30, Cfa)
  • 9 years ago

    Straw can be against tomato stems. It will minimize splash onto plants during rain. If you would have left the greenhouse frame your support issues would be less trouble. I use stringline support for tunnel grown tomatoes be the string can be lowered keeping plants workable. My Sunsugar and Sungold and many other cherry plants are already 10' tall and ready to lower. Jasper, not planted by me this year, was a height record setter that you might want to try... and it is Late Blight resistant. I believe 25' is not asking too much of that variety.

    To pick the last tomatoes of the season your greenhouse would again be a valuable asset. Could you relate why you took it down?

    Hrib thanked Barrie, (Central PA, zone 6a)
  • 9 years ago

    Bacterial wilt and powdery mildew of cucurbits are different organisms than the ones that cause diseases by the same name on tomatoes. So no risk of spread to your tomatoes.

    Hrib thanked gorbelly
  • 9 years ago

    Micky Tkac: Should I keep removing the bottom leaves as I harvest the bottom trusses to expose the new trusses or just leave them be?

    I prune off the bottom foot or so of leaves and take off any leaves that touch the ground. After that point, I only remove foliage if I see signs of damage or disease on it.

    Hrib thanked gorbelly
  • 9 years ago

    Thank you all for your answers and advice. I took the greenhouse off because I thought the plants got too big for it and that if I top them I wouldn't really have much room for horizontal growth in there and ultimately decrease my yields? This is what it looked like Jun 17 a few days before I took it off.

    Regarding the tall one I don't think I will do that again after this year but wanted to do it once to see how tall I can get it, as this is my 3rd year gardening. I think what could have been causing the wilt in the cakes is tonnes of whiteflies and aphids from that red tree from the neighbors yard. I trimmed it back a lot today.

    Regardig those cukes I suppose there's no harm in trying to salvage them if they are producing some fruits? I don't know what I was thinking planting the cukes and tomatoes together.. pictures of plant and picture of worst leaf.

    Final question does anyone have experience with Safers garden defender for PM on cucurbits? I have a ready to use spray which I haven't used yet as I've been fairly successful without sprays but I feel like I may need to spray these? It has been really dry here no rain for 10 days and no rain in sight but the mildew has been spreading a bit..

  • 9 years ago

    <It has been really dry here no rain for 10 days and no rain in sight but the mildew has been spreading a bit..>

    PM is spread by the wind so impossible to defend IMO. afaik it is best to spray before the PM comes to you and near impossible once it arrives.

    I have no exp with the Safers but since you have it either use it to see for yourself or save it for next year.

    I have grown cukes with tomatoes before. To me that looks like cukes beetles, check the underside of the leaves.

    Hrib thanked gumby_ct
  • 9 years ago
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    the aphids can be basically washed off.. get a 2 gallon sprayer if you don't have one, fill it with water 3/4 of the way, pump it as much as you can and blast the leaves with the water. it can be a little time consuming to go around to each leaf, but the results are MUCH MUCH faster than trying to kill them with insecticides. i did this to around 10 plants early this year and only had to do it once. no more aphids the next day.. the ones that i found were on the ground looking for directions (what a pointless and dumb insect that doesn't even know where it lived)..

    personally, i prefer neem oil extract for blight and powdery mildew. it works great as a pesticide as well.. the brand i buy (Bayer) has a unique pleasant smell that i think also helps in keeping other pests away (such as rodents).. just be sure that whatever you use, you apply it after transplanting and every once in a while (3-4 times a month) after that as preventive maintenance.

    Hrib thanked stevie
  • 9 years ago

    It's a bit jungly there if you want to keep late blight at bay. 1.5-2 feet is the standard for tomatoes pruned to one stem (1), not 6. Anything more you're inviting fungus. Some cherry tomatoes don't do too hot pruned to one stem though, it's mostly something for the big ones.

    Hrib thanked fungus
  • 9 years ago

    Aphid species are often host-specific. Just because your neighbor's tree has aphids doesn't mean those aphids are going to go after your vegetables.

    Re: cucurbit powdery mildew--contrary to what one would think, it actually prefers dry weather. Research shows that a good way to knock it back is to actually wash it off with water. As others have pointed out, there's no point in trying to resist taking measures against it. It's ubiquitous and inevitable, basically, unless you're growing resistant varieties.

    Hrib thanked gorbelly
  • 9 years ago

    I've heard that milk works really well to control powdery mildew!


    Linda

    Hrib thanked Labradors