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Toro Personal Pace (Mod # 21038 20017)

9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago

My neighbor retuned for help vs us still walking many weekday mornings. It was the same Toro Personal Pace (Mod # 21038 20017, “what year?) vs his son’s that I had to pass on w/o seeing it. Looking at the mower and probable problem was disturbing because I never saw the “zerk we added.

Most of all, he had the cover off the gear box with the ring and pinion gears showing in very stiff caked grease IMO this represented the resistance he was complaining of. He had grease on hand from our past repair. I still did not spot the bearing or zerk. The mower was moving as normal after he R&R the caked grease I was sure I documented the Zerk with a Pic.

Please share a link to the transmission and rear axle that might show why I d/n see the
Zerk. It s/h been clearly in the open w/o any disassembling, if grass d/n have it covered. With all the grease still there but baked it would still need a teardown vs adding grease (if that was the correct grease).

With my memory matters, I had slowed to a half pace. It might be time to downshift again to a ¼ paces. I have given up what I considerd “Dangerous Repairs” or work. My original post shows faster if you add Toro Personal Pace in the search window.

Take care!

Comments (9)

  • 9 years ago

    There is no grease fitting on the homeowner models that I have owned including the 20017 or my newer 20034

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thanks for the Info!

    1. My
      reference was, I thought and told the neighbor “we needed to add a grease fitting to
      his gear box.

    2. I feel we ran out of time and energy in the 100
      degree heat and planned to add it later???

    3. Seeing plenty grease was there but Caked, I
      feel there is another issue. Wrong
      grease maybe??

    4. Please share your info on what type of grease is
      recommended. I felt it was strange to
      cake in the box and sealed bearing. I should have some of his to compare with.

      *** Please explain," including the 20017 or my newer 20034"?

  • 9 years ago

    Those are models of the personal pac. I also had one prior to the 20017 model but could not tell you the model number. Also there is a recall for the transmission on the 20017 by the way. As to gearbox grease, I actually would point you to adding some 90-140 wieght oil or heavier if you could find some, to ensure some flow rather than the solid grease.

  • 8 years ago

    I agree with the “Oil vs Grease” if the gear case is designed for “Oil vs Grease. Caked/Dried and Powdered grease is new to me. Possibly saying there was a problem from heat or Etc from excessive use. I saw no signs of heat on rubber seals or metal, (that makes it all puzzling. Grease turned to powder in a sealed bearing in the gear box was new to me. Why is a sealed bearing in a gear box with grease greasing gears???. Different levels of heat are is all I can visualize and knowing some individuals, equipment has no limits of use…Then there is the quality of grease even if there is miss-use.

    As A “Help Your Neighbor Volunteer”, I’ll have to adjust my help. Plus, Technology is pushing me out. I retired in 03 and owed it to myself to slow a little “But Not Completely”!

    Have some Fun but not Stress!!!














  • 8 years ago

    On my 60's sears tiller and riding mower along with my 80's riding mower i found the same thing- the original grease in the gearboxs\trans was very thick if not hard like a block of fudge. I scraped\chiseled out the original grease. I found a spot on each machine and added a grease zerk fitting for future grease and filled it with new grease. Strange or does grease dry out like that over time??

  • 8 years ago

    I found interesting
    info on Grease-dry-out-causes and Etc at the address below.
    http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/28517/grease-dry-out-causes

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    All greases over time will thicken within viscosity due to temp changes , additional variables such as heat or vibration and pressure can also increase this tendency . Moly grade greases are less prone to this occurrence than lithium based products . Newer synthetic grade greases have special additives to reduce this problem . For your Toro product #1 lithium or preferable # 2 moly grease would be applicable Loger !

  • 8 years ago

    loger I enjoyed that article. My suspicion is that the toro shaft seals allow the oil to leak away. There is not much to begin with, but once seperation begins, farewell. So..a better grade grease is probably the best answer. Zerck them new with a release hole to flow out the old and pump away.


  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Loger , further to this oil vs grease dialogue . I have in practice drilled & tapped both my Toro mowers and installed a zerk fittting to eleviate this oil seepage problem . I successfully have replaced 95 Sae oil with Moly #2 with no issues for over 5 yrs . Actually substituted 90 Sae oil in my Toro 826 Blower with Syn Moly #1 for the Auger gearcase . Much better cold weather performance .

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