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Arm & Hammer vs All

9 years ago

If you have used both Arm & Hammer Free/Sensitive and All Free Clear (plain old) which do you prefer? My legs and arms are covered in a rash and I've been using A&H lately. Also using sunscreen when outside and always CeraVe moisturizers. Not saying that detergent is the reason for the rash, just curious what you have to say, please.

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  • 9 years ago

    Funny you should post this because I use those two detergents. I was getting an itchy skin irritation with something so I cut out the Spray n Wash, the Chlorox 2 free and clear, and stayed with the Arm and Hammer and Downy free and clear. No more itching. So now I want to reintroduce each one to see what was causing it.


    I have also found out that Charmin toilet paper causes irritation. The NIH has gotten complaints but Charmin mfgrs won't say what's in the product. So I switched to Scott and no more irritation.


    So, my answer is to use the Arm and Hammer for a while and see if your rash clears up. So many chemicals in today's products! I would suspect the creams you're using on your skin.

    Pat Z5or6 SEMich thanked susanzone5 (NY)
  • 9 years ago
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    Sunscreen can cause a lot of rashes. I get a very bad reaction with high heat, sun exposure and sunscreen...but I have no choice but to be slathered in a min. of SPF15 from head to toe daily (usually use SPF30).

    Supergoop sunscreens (Sephora) and Clarins are my two favs. A few from Clinique are good too and Moroccan Oil now has a line of sunscreens for the face & body and they too seem very gentle, but effective.

    @PAT....CeraVe burns my skin something awful!! Their face washes, creams, serums and especially anything they have with SPF. I know CeraVe is supposed to be so gentle, but I react very badly with this brand!!!

    Pat Z5or6 SEMich thanked larsi_gw
  • 9 years ago

    CeraVe has worked miracles on my youngest grand with the skin sensivities as it has for me. Amiee likes it on her feet, knees, elbows. None of us have had the itchies or rash from it.

    Pat Z5or6 SEMich thanked mamapinky0
  • 9 years ago

    I will say the CeraVe ointment (their version of Aquaphor ointment) is excellent. It is like thick Vaseline with ceramides. It is amazing on heels, elbows, knees and lips!!

    Pat Z5or6 SEMich thanked larsi_gw
  • 9 years ago

    Thanks Larsi I'll have to try that. Love CeraVe but nothing has helped my dry cracked dragon heels

  • 9 years ago

    Pat what sunscreen are you using? I found Neutrogena a killer, I got a rash so bad that my eyes swelled and I has to go to urgent care. Then the skin peeled for days. Now I am using La Roche-Posay sunscreen and E45 cream for dry skin. The sunscreen I found at CVS, the E45 is from England and recommend to me by a doctor. I think it is available from Amazon. As for detergent All Free has been ok in the past, but I don't know if detergent is an issue for me.

    Pat Z5or6 SEMich thanked hcbm
  • 9 years ago

    I like CeraVe too. I usually use some mixed with Dr Grandel products. I always use the Roche Posay or Vichy sunblock (both L'Oreal brands). I don't use either detergent though (not sure either is available in Canada).

    Pat Z5or6 SEMich thanked livebetter
  • 9 years ago

    You can remove your dragon heels with this Microplane


    Microplane Foot File

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you for that link, Cmarlin. I just ordered the microplane. Great price & free shipping!

    I've been using a callous razor but I let the callous get away from me the last couple of times and they were so hard that, even with soaking, the razor just wasn't working very good. That, & the razor makes me more than a little nervous to use! I had to resort to soaking and using the acid callous remover and a Diamond Deb foot dresser. Slow work.

    For a kick butt and dirt cheap hand moisturizer, I love, love the Assured Creamy Petroleum Jelly from Dollar Tree. I use it on my hands just before bedtime--absorbs quickly w/ no need to wear gloves to bed--and does a fantastic job. Plus, I love the scent. Honestly, I like this stuff better than anything else (even the uber expensive creams, lotions) that I've ever used on my hands.

    Pat Z5or6 SEMich thanked ci_lantro
  • 9 years ago

    Hey everyone...just so you know the ONLY sunscreen that does what it says it will do (said by Consumer Reports) is La Roche-Posay Anthelios 60 (Melt-in sunscreen Milk).

    It got a ratting of 100 (overall score) which is tough to do.

    It is expensive...in the $30 range for a 5 oz tube.

    The ONLY spray to get 100 was Trader Joe's Spray SPF 50+ ($6.00 for 6 oz can).

    Pat Z5or6 SEMich thanked georgect
  • 9 years ago

    Thanks George. My dermatologist really recommends La Roche Posay too. She sells it, and I always see it at CVS.

    I was at CVS yesterday and almost bought some, but since I have tons of Clarins, SuperGoop, Moroccan Oil and Neogen Dermatology (my FAV facial sunscreen-moisturizer) I did not get some. Now, I want some. LOL

    Pat Z5or6 SEMich thanked larsi_gw
  • 9 years ago

    Bless you all. I think ci_lantro's link above really hit the nail. I take every med mentioned. ci_lanro, I cannot thank you enough for that link. I suspected an increased sensitivity to UVB/UVA rays because the rash is not on top of the skin, it's not raised. It burns here and there when I am outside. Very strange. Never happened before. Staying inside is not an option for me -- I am a gardener and have a somewhat large property I am addicted to keeping up, the way some of you keep up the inside of your home.

    My sunscreens come highly recommended by ConsumerReports, consumerlab.com, American Dermatology Assoc., you name it. I mean, how many sunscreens do I have to buy? However, the LaRoche-Posay is always No. 1 on any list I happen to believe in at the time, so I am now on my way to CVS.

    THANK YOU ALL!!!!

  • 9 years ago

    Just two more things on case it helps anyone.

    TheAM raVe moisturizer WITH SUNSCREENirritates me too. "PM" facial moisturizer is much more gentle and wonderful. The CeraVe CREAM in the jar for irritated skin or whatever it's called, not the plain msturizing Cream, was awful. Whatever that goofy ingredient is in that red highlighted jar for irritation was so irritating that I threw it out.

    Second, let me say here that I just washed some lights in hot water and Tide With Bleach powder (don't have Ultra) and hopefully learned a lesson this time, but i will never wash in anything else again. Lordy, the water was dirty. And some of the stuff was already washed in something else. Three cheers, mamaP.




  • 9 years ago

    Pat, I experienced photosensitivity to a RX that I was taking but it turned out to be just a temporary side effect. So, hoping that will be the case with you, too.

    Yeh, I hit upon the idea of buying a night time moisturizer to get away from the sunscreen. Ends up that I don't really need it right now. I'm using a generic Retin A cream that I got when we were in Mexico. I use that at night and make sure to wash it off in the morning before I go outside. It's ended up being a good moisturizer, too. Gave up on the sunscreens because of the eye irritation.

    Pat Z5or6 SEMich thanked ci_lantro
  • 9 years ago

    ci_lantro and Pat: Glad to hear I'm not the only one who can't wear moisturizer w/sunscreen. I have to be especially careful with lip balms/lipsticks, as many have spf. Some of you mentioned body lotions: I've had good luck with Eucerin.

    And, Susan: Also glad to hear I'm not the only one who has problems with toilet papers!

    Pat Z5or6 SEMich thanked vetwife1998
  • 9 years ago

    Pat I'm glad you like the Tide with Bleach powder it really is the absolute best the US offers for whites and lights. It doesn't just whiten it cleans.

    Pat Z5or6 SEMich thanked mamapinky0
  • 9 years ago

    All, do try the CeraVe "PM Facial Moisturizing Lotion" if you get a chance. It has even more goodies than the CeraVe Moisturizing Lotion. Read the reviews o Amazon.

    And for foot calluses, get a foot cream with urea as a top ingredient, or any cream/lotion with urea in the top ingredients.

  • 9 years ago

    I only use the CeraVe PM moisturizer. I really like it. I use a rich Dr Grandel at night and the PM one in the am.

    i wish Canada had Tide with bleach powder. I looked for it even over the border in Buffalo at one point in Target and Wegman's and neither had it.

  • 9 years ago

    Livebetter Tide with Bleach powder is hard to find now days with all the liquid taking over. Wonder how many people buy the liquid Tide with Bleach Alternative thinking its the same.

  • 9 years ago

    I am another that cannot use any moisturizer, make up , or cream, etc with added sunscreen. The only ones that don't make me want to claw my skin off and burn my eyes so bad are the zinc oxide based ones, which I only use if I'm going to be out in the sun for an extended period of time. Right now I'm using babyganics 50spf. It's a real pain to apply since it's more of a barrier type sunscreen and doesn't really absorb all the way into the skin. But I'll take that vs feeling like my skin is on fire.

  • 9 years ago

    Re: foot callus-no substitute for regular exfoliation followed by a rich cream. I don't recommend blades or planers, they only make the skin come back faster. A good sturdy foot file like the Swedish Clover (sally beauty supply) will get the job done (over a few sessions if your feet have a lot of build up). I also recommend filing dry. While potentially messy, it'll remove a lot more dead skin. Dry filing is esp helpful for those who have not exfoliated in a long time. Soaking in very warm/hot water for 30 mins then wet filing is very effective too. Then follow up with a good cream.

  • 9 years ago

    This is really the ONLY facial moisturizer with Sunscreen that I not only like, but I LOVE!! It is Korean (they make some of the top skincare in the World...they have surpassed France for the best skin products).

    This moisturizer-sunscreen does not make my face or neck feel hot. It never breaks me out. It is never greasy. It absorbs almost instantly, and makes skin look amazing. The scent is very, very light (faint lemon, but no sunscreen smell really and the light scent fades fast). I cannot recommend this enough. I am on tube 4 or 5 now!!!

    http://www.sephora.com/day-light-protection-sun-screen-spf-50-pa-P410761?skuId=1860592&om_mmc=ppc-GG_378477159_27752557839_aud-290121270867:pla-56128534817_1860592_95787538359_9031175_c&country_switch=us&lang=en&gclid=CMTkuKesgdUCFUhqfgodPqQDIA&gclsrc=aw.ds

    Pat Z5or6 SEMich thanked larsi_gw
  • 9 years ago

    Random comments:
    I see Tide With Bleach powder at 2 of my local Meijer stores (Ypsilanti and Ann Arbor, Michigan) so I'm assuming they have it on their national website (Meijer.com). I also see it on Walmart's website. Walmart has free shipping on orders over $50, I think. If rinsed properly, there is absolutely no detergent scent left behind.

    Mama, the liquid version sure is not the same. No oxygen bleach -- don't know how they can get away with that.

    Only facial moisturizer/sunscreen I can use: "Eucerin Daily Protection SPF 30." Stays white a while because of the mineral (vs chemical) suncreens but quickly absorbs. Nicely moisturizing also for winter.

    On my arms and legs I use "California Kids Supersensitive SPF 30," and like miami above it is very thick, white, and doesn't soak in. The neighbors just stare when I also put this on my face, but who cares?

    Yes, vetwife, Eucerin products are highly recommended by derms and they are very nice.

    Just want you to know that I was in the SHADE outside when my "rash" started the prickly burning. UV rays are everywhere, even near inside windows. Something about climate chanage and the ozone layer -- I can't keep up.

    cilantro, I've cut out Zrytec/Claritin and Aleve/aspirin, but cannot cut out my ace inhibitor with diuretic, or anti-depressant. The rash is lessened so, again, thank you for that link. Having a biopsy next week, so I'll be on Tylenol anyway, and that's supposed to be okay.

    Thanks to this Forum, we all get to help each other in some way.

  • 9 years ago

    Eucerin has been recommended by numerous doctors as the only product Amiee can use with compression garments. Not sure why but it may have to do with chemical reactions breaking down the fibers in the compression. I've not been updated by any doctor if any other product is now ok to use.

  • 9 years ago
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    I'm a Cerave user -- both the PM and the AM with sunscreen. I love the PM and the AM is good, but doesn't always sink into my skin. I also use their hydrating foam gentle cleaner or the Ultra Gentle Neutrogena (one in the AM and one in the PM). I don't care for the other Cerave products. I use Nivea Extended moisture body lotion. For my very dry hands, I like a product that I found in Europe called La Roche Posay Cicaplast Mains. Cicaplast Mains

    Pat Z5or6 SEMich thanked Compumom
  • 9 years ago

    Compumom, I understand that anything La Roche Posay is the best n the world. Right now here is what I use for a hand cream in the winter: "Eucerin Intensive Repair Hand Creme." Aside from "CeraVe Moisturizing Cream" (in a jar) Eucerin is the only one that isn't greasy. Lord, I hate it when hands stay so greasy with anything else. And the Nivea -- must try it as a neighbor loves it.