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What would you do with this forsythia? It was overgrown and neglected. A former master gardener and friend of mine helped untangle and prune it at the end of May as it was rubbing and leaning. Once untangled, it completely flopped to the side. You can see there is some new growth here.

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  • 9 years ago

    Roots very easily.

    Brianna Cacchione thanked Sara Malone (Zone 9b)
  • 9 years ago

    Google rejuvenation pruning and sharpen those loppers.

    But as Babs said it is ill suited to that spot and will never work there. I'd start three or four ground layers for a better location and dig this one out when the weather lightens up. It will be dicey to not disturb those steps- I'd likely take those up first. OR I would cut it right to the ground and cover the spot with thick black plastic for a couple of years. If you were diligent about killing any sprouts immediately you could kill it that way.

    An old forsythia can be a bear to move- here is one of seven my husband dug out when we bought this property.

    Brianna Cacchione thanked cearbhaill (zone 6b Eastern Kentucky)
  • 9 years ago

    cutting it completely down.. with no insult to the huge root mass ... and in 2 or 3 years ... you will probably have the same plant there ... unless you want to do heavy pruning every year ...


    if not.. get rid of it ... as noted .... the easy way.. would be to cut it to the ground and apply a stump killer ...


    see link


    im not much impressed by your master gardener ... but what a great friend ... to go all jungle whacking on it .... mull that.. lol ...


    ken


    its the same idea.. regardless of the flowering shrub and though the concept is a 3 year rotation ... i would just go full bore ... and skip next years bloom .... and then in 3 years.. start the cycle ....

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rejuvenation+pruning&t=ffcm&iax=1&ia=videos


    Brianna Cacchione thanked ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Thanks for all your thoughts. All really helpful ideas. It didn't flower this year like it did last year when it was covered in yellow blooms. Does this fit into the idea that it won't bloom again next year for the second year due to the pruning of damaged parts?

    We untangled the branches which grew so twisted but may have helped support the branches. My friend said with all the rubbing, it would have cut into the bark and made the shrub susceptible to disease. As we untangled, they literally flopped over and some branches busted. We only pruned down what broke as a result. I know it looks pretty terrible but it's not her fault. That's why I'm here asking about the next step. I wouldn't want her to feel bad for trying to help.

    What looks like steps are a retaining wall. Can I ask what makes this a particularly bad spot? The shrub is on a hill so I wonder if maybe that prevented it from getting good water? What accounts for the droopiness?

    Even with as bad as it looks now, it provides some privacy for the sidewalk that runs in front. Is fall then the best time to make any drastic changes?

    Thanks again!

  • 9 years ago

    If it was me and I wanted to keep it, next spring the day it finishes blooming (if it even does) I would remove all the largest limbs down to the ground. I might even do it this fall and not even try for 2018 blooms.

    Then after it leafs out in the spring I would sit down next to it and very meticulously and thoroughly decide how large I wanted it to be and remove all the small stuff that doesn't suit that vision. I would probably try to leave the parts farthest from the wall and remove what is closest in the interests of roots never damaging it. Then I would keep up with it and keep the size manageable.

    "The shrub is on a hill so I wonder if maybe that prevented it from getting good water? What accounts for the droopiness?"

    It'd droopy because you removed foliage and what is left had insufficient sun behind what you removed and grew stretching for light. It is droopy because, as you stated, it was overgrown and neglected.

    The water is easy- make a dam out of a strip of plastic and half bury it on the low side. This holds water long enough for it to penetrate the soil. Like so (bonus improvised shade demo)- I use pound in edging for small things and plastic landscape border for large things. It is essential for gardening on a hill, especially when establishing things. I generally remove them after a year or so.

    Brianna Cacchione thanked cearbhaill (zone 6b Eastern Kentucky)