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Questions about new Adenium

Hi Everyone,

I've been following the GW forums for a while. I've really enjoyed lurking and learning. I've decided this is a good place to find some answers. I preface this post with the fact that I'm new to plants in general although I've learned a lot searching through these forums. I've been dabbling in succulents/cacti for the past few months and am getting the hang of caring for them. In terms of Adeniums, I'm a fetus... I'll honestly put it out there that I don't really know anything. I have read through a number of posts but I'm not sure how to practically apply the information. So I seek your help and knowledge in this very first experience with these plants.

I recently acquired 3 Adenium Obesums (don't know why I bought so many with no real knowledge of how to take care of them). By recently, I mean I've had them for a day. They come from a local nursery north of Toronto, Canada. I believe they imported them from Taiwan. I'm not sure how old the plants are, I don't really have too much information, I apologize. I do believe they are grafted.

I have not yet unpotted them, so I don't know what the roots look like. I didn't want to start taking things apart without knowing what I'm doing. I have felt around the caudex and all 3 are firm from what i can tell. In general I feel they look healthy, but please do let me know if something seems amiss.

In terms of questions:

1. I've read that now may not be the best time to repot Adeniums, however, I'm not sure what is in the potting mix and I know with succulents, it's best to repot after purchase. Can anyone give me any advice on this? Should I repot or leave until the spring?

2. When I do repot, deep pot vs shallow pot? I've read that diameter wise the pot should be about 1 inch larger on each side. But what about height?

3. Is it too early to raise the caudex of these adeniums? If not too early, how much do I raise these ones by? If too early, when would be the right time?

4. I have not watered them. I wanted to see if repotting was advisable first. If I don't repot, how long should I wait to water?

5. In terms of the statement - treat them like tropical plants in the summer and like C&S in the winter - regarding watering habits, (sorry this might sound...dumb), how do you know when to cut back on watering or to increase frequency of watering?

6. When should these 3 plants be pruned?

7. Can someone show me on my pictures where the cuts would be made for pruning (I'm especially concerned as this is a grafted plant)?

8. Any advice in general (just in case I'm forgetting to ask)?

Sorry for such a long post. I'd be happy to add more pictures, i.e. bare roots, once I get a better grasp of things.

Thank you in advanced for any help that can be given!

- Lily


Comments (8)

  • 9 years ago

    Hi Lily,

    I am from Canada, but on the other side of the continent, Vancouver Island, B.C.

    1, 2. - I would leave in the pots they are in for size. As long as the soil is free draining. Water passes through the soil quickly. 1" either side is good and not too much deeper. If you go with too deep a pot, say 4"-5" deeper, then this portion of the soil remains wet longer and may cause root issue.

    3. - Do not raise at this time. Wait until they grow larger in girth of caudex. Raising can be an individual preference. I do not like raising mine if the caudex (widest part of trunk) looks to be sitting like a Ball on top of the soil. Like it when the widest part is right at soil level.

    4. - The length of time between waterings will depend on the conditions they have. Wait to water until the top 1/2 of the soil has dried. If they are receiving sun for 8 - 10 hrs./ day, will be different than if they are only getting 5hrs. of sunlight.

    5. The frequency of watering will be gauged by how quickly they dry back. This will depend on conditions they are receiving. Watering in the winter months may mean only giving them an ounce or two every month, still depending on situation. Through out the winter, they can retain leaves or lose them. They will go dormant. Even if they retain their leaves in the winter. If they are not putting on new growth, then they should still be considered dormant. Follow the plants state of growth or lack there of.

    6. - Next year or the following.

    7. - Would review this in the next year or so.

    The first one looks to have a nice full bloom coming and nice color.

    All very nice plants, Lily.

    Never feel like your asking too many questions. People here all ask and look forward to hearing your thoughts and remarks.

    Rick

    LilyCP Zone 6b Toronto, Canada thanked rcharles_gw (Canada)
  • 9 years ago

    Hi Lily! I'm from Toronto too!!. I also love Adeniums. Please follow Rick advice he's pretty much covered everything.

    Please don't feel bad about asking too much questions, it is how we learn. Your Adeniums look very healthy, I would love to see some pic when the flower buds open.

    Where were you able to find grafted Adenium in Toronto if you don't mind me asking? I've been looking everywhere and cannot find a nursery that sells them.

    LilyCP Zone 6b Toronto, Canada thanked Laydee Luv
  • 9 years ago

    Lily, Nice to have someone such as Laydee Luv living in close proximity. It is nice to be able to bounce things off someone that lives with the same or similar climate and conditions.

    Sure hope we get to see you blooms when they open.

    Rick

    LilyCP Zone 6b Toronto, Canada thanked rcharles_gw (Canada)
  • 9 years ago

    Hi Rick,

    Thank you so much for your response. I've been out to Vancouver Island and love it there! My husband and I plan on going back sometime and possibly head up to Banff while we are out west. Just need to find the time.

    The mix looks quite "peaty" to me (I will leave a picture). It looks like they added perlite to help with drainage, but I'm not sure if that's enough? Based on the photo (let me know if there's a better photo I can include), should I leave the mix as is or change to my grittier mix (mainly grit and pumice, smaller amount of turface, smallest amount of coir/perlite/vermiculite)? I think I read somewhere it's best not to disturb the plant when it's in bloom, is that correct i.e. should I wait until it's done blooming to change out the mix (if changing the mix is warranted)?

    I will definitely update this post with progress photos as time goes on. Would love to keep hearing from you regarding care and what to do next with them. Thank you again for your advice, I will definitely follow. Let's see how these little guys turn out!

    Hi Laydee Luv,

    Thank you! Nice to meet another Torontonian :). I got them from a nursery called Crystal Star Orchids. They are located in East Gwillimbury. Since I live downtown, they were able to ship it out to me without too much fuss. When they get shipments, they post an update on their Facebook and you can message them to reserve a plant. I've bought other succulents/cacti from them at the Toronto C&S show in the past and felt that their plants were quite healthy (all succulents in the photo below are from CSO).

    Here is a picture of one of the blooms that opened up this morning! Happy to post more once the blooms open (Sorry I realized the picture is a touch blurry). I ordered the purple you see there, a pink/white one seen in the back and red that's not pictured here (that was the one with the least leaves in the initial post). The red will be a gift to my mother for her birthday. They had an amazing black and red one for sale but it was sold out by the time I got my order in, next time :)

  • 9 years ago

    Rick, I'll look into those components. In the meantime, I'll be careful with watering. I've been slowly putting it out into a shaded area on the terrace for air flow, so hopefully that will help. Thank you!

  • 9 years ago

    Rick, what is the limestone for?

  • 9 years ago

    Manda, The limestone, I should have called it Gypsum. It is only a small amount, approximately 1 Tablespoon to 1 Gallon of soil mix. Adds Calcium.

    Rick

    LilyCP Zone 6b Toronto, Canada thanked rcharles_gw (Canada)