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Patio Privacy: I need help finding a solution

13 years ago
Last year I added a stone patio. The only problem I need to resolve is privacy: how to add privacy with a style that fits the home?
On one side of me I have a neighbor whose kitchen window overlooks one side. The other side is a neighbor with a new pool and many pool parties on the weekends. I'm not as concerned with noise as I am with being able to sit on my patio without any privacy.
I am an avid woodworker so building a wood structure would not be a problem. I do like a contemporary feel.
All ideas and thoughts are welcome!
Thank you in advance for your input.

Comments (44)

  • PRO
    13 years ago
    what about adding post that follow the perimeter of the patio , with weather friendly rods and the use of a Sunbrella type fabric that blends with the house exterior and tie backs that can be released when needed for privacy ?
  • 13 years ago
    Would planting a hedge or shrubs around the boundary of your property not be a solution? Would be ideal if your boundary was somewhere near the pool. Would only have to be as high as their fence and that way you won't be closed in, but you'll have more privacy.
  • 13 years ago
    I would create a pergola of sorts. I would create some side walls framed out like windows and hang large ferns or baskets of flowers in each section. I would use copper piping as the roof of the structure. If you are a wood worker this should be fun!
  • 13 years ago
    I would just do a bunch of tall potted plants or bushes. They are very in style these days
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Design Alliance,
    I have thought of adding posts then attaching some pull down "shades" made with Sunbrella material. The problem I have is coming up with the proper design.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Carolina's,
    Yes, my wife and I have discussed using Aborvitaes (sp?) to create privacy but she says they can get out of hand. I haven't considered placing them AWAY from the patio, closer to the neighbor's wrought iron fence. I'll need to reconsider.
    Using the same idea on the other side of my patio, to block the other neighbor's view from her kitchen window, puts the Arborvitae to close to the patio, in my wife's opinion.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Carolina's,
    I do like the lattice. How long will it take for any vine to grow?
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Margo,
    I was looking at some pictures in Houzz similar to your suggestion. I'm trying to figure out the proper look so it won't look like I plopped it in place, if that makes sense.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    MAlps,
    Agreed, but finding the right plants is the tough part. I'm certainly not a green thumb! Lol
  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 13 years ago
    Hmm... had to look up Aborvitaes. We call them coniferen or Thuja. Not the most elegant option and they can certainly be fast growing and not always take pruning well. They tend to go brown on the inside.
    Since I'm in the Netherlands, I don't know what grows well in your part of the world, but if you want a hedge close to your patio you could look at: Taxus baccata (yew). Evergreen, can take pruning very well. Berries are however poisonous.
    A hedge further away from the patio: Prunus laurocerasus.

    There are lots of options for flowering vines that will cover a screen quite rapidly. You'll have to investigate what grows well in your area. If possible go for one that smells nice too. Or do a combination of a couple of different climbers. Clematis is always nice. Don't plant Ivy though. Grows fast, gets messy, goes everywhere.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    What a great outdoor space you have. I think fencing as in the image 'organic fencing' attached could work really well. I've seen something similar used to great advantage by angling each plank so as not to obstruct light also not having the height the same all along can be more attractive. You can paint or stain, add mirrors, intersperse with plants/lighting. How about creating a Sculpture? Have fun.
  • 13 years ago
    last modified: 13 years ago
    I had a similar problem. To screen out one neighbor, I added a row of Viburnum ( fast growers) and can be trimmed if needed. They do tend to get wide, so near the property line would be best. They lose their leaves in winter but leaf out early spring with white flowers and then just green the rest of the season.

    In another area, we planted Rose of Sharon (not as fast to grow). They are later to get their leaves but they also bloom later in the season
    http://gardening.about.com/od/treesshrubs/a/Viburnums.htm
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Thanks Carolins, I will investigate both of your suggestions.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Blue Bird Design,
    Since I'm an avid woodworker I like the organic fence idea. Combining possibly a wooden structure with some type of vine, as Carolins suggests, may be the answer.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Judy M,
    I went to the website you posted to read about the plants you suggested. I'm going to call around today to check inventory.
    I like the idea of the foliage, now I need to figure out how to lay it all out.

    Thanks to you and everyone for your input!
  • 13 years ago
    Here is one view of my full grown viburnum.
    I like the height of these, they block neighbors without getting so tall that they block the sky.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Have you pruned them? Can I easily control the growth in height and width?
  • 13 years ago
    I think you have two separate problems here. The first is neighbour's the kitchen window. I would deal with that one separately and build some sort of screen on that side of the patio, possibly with very small lattice. Maybe you could follow the curve of the little wall and somehow attach it to the top of the wall. The pool is a whole other story. How about a screen of cedars near your property line close to the pool. You can plant them close together and in no time (with lots of liquid fertilizer) you will have a hedge. Everything else just takes too long to grow and its years before you have the privacy you are looking for. Your patio area and walkways are really nice and its a shame that you can't feel comfortable in your own space. I know exactly how you feel. Good luck.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Yes, Alison, it is a bit of a problem. I don't mind that the neighbors have pool parties but I don't like the fact that I can't enjoy MY space on a nice weekend evening.
    I agree that most plants will take a while to give me the privacy that I desire. That's why I'm thinking about a tastefully built arbor or trellis is a more immediate solution. Then add some type of greenery which can grow as slowly or quickly as it requires.
  • 13 years ago
    I have pruned a few branches when needed. I would estimate these are about 15ft high and wide at maturity.
    These are at a beach house that we rent out.
    I have some at another house that we planted about 4 or 5 years ago and within 2 years they provided partial screening and now provide full screening although they have not reached the same height as the one shown.
    You can plant these closer for faster coverage or farther apart so you don't need to buy as many, as they will get as wide as they do high.

    I will try to get some photos of the other house when I get there later today.

    We have been working at screening our neighbors for a few years now. We were almost there using plants and some fencing, then a neighbor lost a large wide tree/shrub and now I have another area that needs something, so I just bought a tree, lower shrubs with provide privacy below the tree canopy.
    I understand the desire for privacy.
  • 13 years ago
    hammerguy, I have the same issue and have been researching this for several months. I'm trying to block a trampoline. I have an ideabook: landscape=privacy that I just shared with you. I used the collaborate button on houzz. let me know if you got it. there are a couple ideas that might work for you.
  • 13 years ago
    I think you are USDA zone 6a so viburnums would be a good choice for you. This site gives you info on different types of viburnum to consider for your zone.

    http://www.mortonarb.org/tree-plant-advice/article/852/viburnums-for-the-home-landscape.html
  • 13 years ago
    Here are a couple of ideas from Houzz, which should work well for your area.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Dpwright, I don't see a collaborate button anywhere.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Battziyon, thanks for the pics. I had come across the pics when I searched.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Eztia, thanks for all of the links. I have looked through most of them so far and there are several good ideas.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Dpwright, I just saw an email with many photos, thank you!
  • 13 years ago
    Here is the row of viburnum that is about 4 or 5 years old.
    These are planted along one side of the back yard.

    You can see at each end the neighbors houses that we are reusing to screen. The house on right has a patio that faces the shrub line.
    The White House on left is the one that they just lost a large shrub and now they are visible to us. I will plant a tree (and wait). sigh.
  • 13 years ago
    On the pool side, I would certainly do a hedge as close to the property line as possible. You don;t want your privacy to be limited to just your lovely patio. You could put up a trellis and plant vines on them. For immediate privacy, choose a fast growing annual vine. At the same time, plant maybe clematis for perennial greenery. These will be deciduous, so if you want cover in the winter, you might have to intersperse it with an evergreen vine. Be aware that 'fast growing' is sometimes a code word for 'short lived', like the arborvitea, or 'invasive' like wisteria.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    last modified: 13 years ago
    Here's a post on creating an outdoor space which you might find helpful: http://www.braitmandesign.com/home-remodeling/7-tips-backyard-getaway/. Among other things, it discusses ways to create privacy in a patio setting like yours. Since you're a woodworker, building a pergola might be a good option for you. This would allow for a more structured, intimate space for entertaining. I would also suggest pairing it with some kind of shrubbery, which would also work without the pergola. Good luck!
  • 13 years ago
    I would add what ever the screening you choose towards the further away fence, rather than around your seating area... Because I would still want to "drink in" on that gorgeous green garden view you have around the sitting area. I would personally prefer a tree fence screen as Judy M has shows above. So that you can keep the area green and close to nature. I would like to add some gorgeous accents to that sitting area as well! Some beautiful outdoor cushions (fade/water/mold/mildew resistant) would create that lovely atmosphere.... Below are some I found online on www.zahaarasanctuary.com
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Thanks again to everyone for their ideas and insight. I haven't yet decided on the final plan but I will be sure to add photos of the finished product.
    Have a great Memorial Day!
  • 13 years ago
    Sorry to bug you, but I have tried twice to upload some photos and request for help, but it just won't go through. Is there a trick to it? Do you have to log in or something. I just can't seem to figure it out. Thanks for any help. Your back yard is going to look amazing when you are done with the changes, by the way!
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Alison, yes, you must login before uploading photos. Be sure that the photos are in your library then look for the "Upload" button on the home page.
    Hope it helps.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Spenser, good insight about the invasive and deciduous plants. I'll be sure to keep it in mind.
    Thank you !
  • 13 years ago
    Thanks, I will see what I can do. I would love to get some input in to my outside problems. Everyone has such great ideas. Looking forward to seeing your finished project.
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Trish, we actually have some chair pillows and wall cushions but we store them in a large container when not in use. The birds seem to use them as target practice with their excrement. Lol
  • PRO
    13 years ago
    Alison, if you still have trouble let me know. Maybe I can offer additional help if the problem with uploading continues. Be sure to read the Help section or type in "Upload" for help from Houzz.
    Once you upload one photo you'll see how simple it is.

    Bob
  • 13 years ago
    Hi Bob, I think the problem is the number of pixels on my photographs. We had changed it to smaller pixels as I was writing a blog on a trip we recently went on. I will take some more photographs with the increased pixels and try again.
  • PRO
    11 years ago
    These are great for privacy, but need something to hang from.
  • 10 years ago

    I would suggest you install a lattice screen between your place and the neighbor's, but leave enough room to walk, run the lawn mower, or even place an additional table and chairs (when needed) between the patio walls and the screen. As another measure, perhaps you could situate the tables and chairs on the patio so that the chairs face some focal point along the exterior wall of the house. I would not recommend attaching anything to the low patio walls because the tops of these dividers can serve as extra seating space when needed.

  • 10 years ago
    I had a similar issue and planted column arborvitae around a side of my deck.