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Palatines roses

9 years ago

Well, after clutching at 30 roses from Palatine like someone demented, I shall be living on beans and wieners!! Nice selection of new Kordes and that is the only place I can get the Korde's roses. Papi Delbard was a must have. When a family names a rose after the old grandfather then it has to be good. The only ADR was Oh Happy Day so another must have. It appears that I managed to get 30 must haves.

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  • 9 years ago

    Wahooo for you !! Lots of goodies coming your way ! I also bought papi delbard and oh happy day . Didn't know it won an award so that's great! They have so many good roses I could easily order more

  • 9 years ago

    Papi Delbard looks stunning but it's too cold here. Thirty new roses to look forward to next spring. It doesn't get much better than that!

    Sharon

  • 9 years ago

    Not spring Sharon. Late November, 30 roses to plant when the rain is splashing down and the wind is driving it through you. What's not to love about the PNW coast!!

  • 9 years ago

    Old Rosarian I have sent you a list that I must whittle down, some based on seeing your beauties in bloom this summer ( Caramella Fairy Tale, Dark Desire, Out of Rosenheim, Sunny Sky Eleganza etc)

    Which ones can I live without- I must whittle it down as I don't have room....

    Oh Happy Day Eleganza
    Papi Delbard
    Madame Anisette Parfuma
    Honeymoon Arborose
    Garden Delight
    Earth Angel Parfuma
    Bordeaux Citiscape
    Crazy Love
    Sunny Sky Eleganza
    Out of Rosenheim
    Quicksilver Arborose
    Pink Enchantment Eleganza
    Peaudouce
    Nahema.
    Kordes Golden Gate.
    Kiss Me Kate.
    Dark Desire Parfuma.
    Caramella Fairy Tale

  • 9 years ago

    And which 30 are you getting? :-)

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    I wish I could get Palatine roses sooner. I want to know the list of 30 roses too, so we could follow you. :-)

  • 9 years ago
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    30 new roses is super exciting! Digging 30 holes, not so much. Still, I'd do it, too, if I had the space. I'd also be interested to know the 30 varieties, so I can live vicariously through your purchase, lol.

  • 9 years ago

    Info from my wet PNW garden on my knowledge

    Oh Happy Day Eleganza good ADR rose

    Papi Delbard sun bleaches a little
    Madame Anisette Parfuma can't find any good reports on her
    Honeymoon Arborose Palatine says goes to 7 feet in cold climates I agree
    Garden Delight comes out beautiful then sun bleaches
    Earth Angel Parfuma a must have
    Bordeaux Citiscape mine is a burgundy red in the garden
    Crazy Love hated it because sun made it goes weird colours
    Sunny Sky Eleganza very vigorous my two are 8 feet
    Out of Rosenheim best red in the whole garden (400 roses)
    Quicksilver Arborose many mauves age to a muddy colour, also hard to place
    Pink Enchantment Eleganza this is another bully boy not a lot of blooms
    Peaudouce no one roe in the world no problems
    Nahema. an Austin Heritage x so has thin petals but strong fragrance
    Kordes Golden Gate. can be a house eater, thorns to hang your laundry on
    Kiss Me Kate. just another ho hum pink climber
    Dark Desire Parfuma.no one shaded burgundy, very fragrant
    Caramella Fairy Tale a fav but it gets BS in the PNW but I forgive it

  • 9 years ago

    Enjoyed the comments, oldrosarian. I agree Peaudouce (Elina) is an extraordinary great rose.

  • 9 years ago

    My roses to fill the imaginary holes!! Got 2 of some

    SWEET BEAUTY a shorter rose with a good fragrance

    TRAVIATA beautiful blooms but protect from hot sun as edges burn

    TOSCANO VIGOROSA disease free drunken spider for garden corners

    TIFFANY my all time favourite, get BS but I don't see it

    SUNSET DREAMS beautiful shading ideal for a pot

    SOUTH AFRICA grows tall needs to poke out from other tall roses, no BS

    SONNENWELT a replacement for Sweet Jane which was poor in my garden

    ROXANNE VERANDA another rich red for garden edges to drape over

    PLUM PERFECT because forum people said it was good

    OH HAPPY DAY an ADR rose so it must be a good one

    MOONSTONE because of the height

    MANGO VERANDA pure apricots are hard to get

    HONEYMOON want to keep it as a tall shrub, Palatine says it is 7 feet in the garden

    GRANDE AMORE a very good red going to the carmine red side

    FIREBIRD a must have for shock effect in the garden

    ELIZA another soft rose pink very fragrant rose

    BLISS always room to push a smaller very fragrant rose somewhere

    BARKAROLE a fav but can be tricky to grow another no sun or edges go rusty

    ASCOT good reports on the forum an unusual colour but good with pinks

    BELLE AMOUR because it won't complain about shady places

    ENFANT DE FRANCE one of the best Hybrid Perpetual lots of flowers and no BS


  • 9 years ago

    Thanks Lynnette! Can't wait to visit Palatine again! Love that place! I purchased a lot of roses this year from them, have to go easy next year. Just purchased a country house with some land, more rooms for roses, but it's a black bear, deer, coyote country down there. Want to start with ramblers and climbers. How tall is your fence around your garden? 6' or 8'? Thanks

  • 9 years ago

    I have a 6 foot wire mesh fence. Have bears too but they won't make the effort to go over the fence and if you grow ramblers all along the fence, that makes it taller. They do eat the outside of my ramblers but the Ramblers think it is pruning and grow right back. Deer have got a myth about them in regards to how high they can jump. If a Cougar is on the tail of a deer, the deer can jump to 9 feet but deer are browsers and they won't make an effort unless you have something they want and even then not over but usually under the fence. I live near an airbase and they keep the deer out with a 6 foot fence that has an 18 inch 45" hangover. Used the same idea on my larger rose garden and it worked well. I just built a wooden frame with cheap wire and then the 45" hangover made with re-bar on a slant.

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you Lynnette. That helps but still hard to get it down to something manageable. I was also wondering about Sweet Jane, sounds like it wasn't great in our climate. And now I want mango veranda too. And what about Lavender veranda? I remember you said the Veranda series did great for you but didn't stay small.

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks again Lynnette! I will do the 6' fence with a hangover in the future rose garden. A great idea indeed!

  • 9 years ago

    Sweet Jane, both of them, did nothing to please me in my garden. Ho hum flowers, slow growth and BS. Kordes has much better amber yellows. I always praise the Veranda Series. Every single one, whether I like the rose or not, grows well and has no disease. Most grow to about 4 feet. More if you are generous with the fertilizer. They also do well by pruning with a hedge trimmer because the new growth is right behind the dead flower. Most start out a rich colour and fade to a pleasant pastel. Again to this size in my PNW. Own root is around 3 feet and on Dr. Huey, the sky's the limit!!

  • 9 years ago

    Kelly- such beautiful pics. My Madame A hasn't flowered yet but she's still an own root baby. Hoping next spring.

    Your Nahema is so gorgeous. I purchased two from A Reverence For Roses in mid July. The owner was very nervous about shipping from FL in the height of summer but they came through fine, a bit batter wary but still surprisingly healthy. One has flowered twice so far. The scent is amazing.

    Sharon

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    All of the Palatine roses have been so extremely healthy and fast growing in my yard. I have acidic soil, so the multiflora they graft on must be a great choice for me.

    In the heat of summer I actually decided I had TOO MANY roses, so I decided that when I want to buy a new rose, before I hit "buy" I would go out and deadhead every single rosebush I have, then decide if I still really want it.

    So far that has effectively stopped me from getting anything else.

    I also decided that any new roses I do buy have to come from Palatine since they're some of the healthiest for me.

    I am swapping out Winchester Cathedral for Acropolis. I'm on the fence about what other 2 to get though. (Minimum of three needed for shipping)

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    Peaudouce is sold as elina here. That's a beautiful rose. Always blooming, even in the heat. Ascot is magnificent but won't bloom in the warm temps here in so ca and grows very large. All the ADR roses I've tried, I liked.

  • 9 years ago

    Cori Ann, I love your prune before purchase idea. I better institute that practice myself.

    Why are you ditching Winchester Cathedral? I have that one and it is young and so far kind of ho hum. But I have seen some really nice ones on here.

  • 9 years ago

    WC totally fries here and smells like Eucerin. It's a weird fragrance from a rose.

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    They have the florintina red climber. If anyone wants a super easy to train smaller climber it's a good one. It's even good in a large pot. The red color stays in warm weather too.

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