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Cistus foliar odor - takes over a year to develop?

9 years ago
last modified: 9 years ago

A brief history of Cistus in my garden. Tried one from Lazy SS Farms nursery in central VA back in the late 2000s. Cistus x pulverulentus IIRC. It lasted a few years until the heavy snows of the polar winters, more than the cold I think, killed it. It was covered in a wet snow bank for weeks...conditions that also killed some young Yucca rostratas nearby. Overall, as is the case with Helianthemum, drainage is the key issue around here.

Spring 2016 I planted Cistus X 'Ledon' from Joy Creek. Supposedly one of the hardiest. Noticed absolutely no fragrance from the foliage throughout that year and this spring.

Somewhat surprisingly the wet summer this year seemed to cause it to have a growth spurt, and it almost doubled in size. I should mention it is in a spot under my eaves and in well draining soil, but sometimes our driving rains blow quite a lot of water in there. Suddenly, the foliage that came out this summer matured, became very sticky and has the new-to-me-but-probably-well-known resinous and sweet fragrance. Sorta reminds me of the leaves of a cinnabarina subsection Rhododendron. A most excellent development I think ;-) If the plant sizes up a bit more I am sure you'll be able to get a whiff of it just from being in that part of the garden.

Is this delay typical? The plant was probably 1 year beyond a rooted cutting when I got it...9-10" tall, and is now 16" or so. PS it did not flower this spring, but the foliage is so good looking one almost wouldn't care whether it flowered or not. The previous one had just started to flower like crazy before the polar vortex killed it. As I recall it had a very slight odor, but not a change in intensity as it grew.

Comments (10)

  • 9 years ago

    Oh, I think every summer here is plenty hot. This one was somewhat cooler and rainier than the last, at least according to my increasingly vague memories LOL. Seems to me establishment caused a definite physiological change to occur.

    I have referenced that website many a time, in fact it's what helped me select 'Ledon'.


  • 9 years ago

    I have never detected any particular aroma from cistus foliage :-) And there are plenty of them planted around here and of all different varieties and most in very open, sunny and heated positions.

    Of all the cistus species and cistus-like plants, my favorite is xHalimiocistus 'Merrist Wood Cream'. I find that it tolerates our usually wet winters much better than cistus and will also thrive in a less open position.

  • 9 years ago

    I've only ever smelled them in the Mediterranean region. I don't recall ever being aware of the scent here in the UK although they are quite widely grown.

  • 9 years ago
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    Interesting, so they are fragrant in warm summers areas...I should ask the Cistus man himself - he named his nursery after them - what they do in Portland. Since that is a little warmer than both of you. If so, curious, I cannot think of another plant with such a feature. It isn't as though lavender 'Grosso' smells in Delaware and not in Seattle, or vice versa.

    'Merrist Wood Cream' I have in a more sheltered spot because I figured it was a little less hardy. No fragrance on that one here, after several years.

  • 9 years ago

    Lots of plants share this feature in my experience. Box, lavender, Rosemary, in fact all those aromatic herbs smell far stronger in their natural environment than they do here. Box especially is noticeably much smellier in hotter climates. It's barely perceptible in my garden apart from a couple of hot days in high summer.

  • 9 years ago

    'Merrist Wood Cream' is short-lived in Zone 8.

  • 9 years ago
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    well, smelling stronger, yes I can grant that. But this was a total change in foliage too. It was not sticky at all last year. I know because I was picking a leaf once in a while to see if there was any fragrance. It's as though there was some differential gene expression going on. The way Osmanthus changes from pointy leaves to smooth ones or equivalent. Fragrance is volatile organic* chemicals so yes it will be noticeable for certain plants when the air is humid and warm. But again, it isn't as though rosemary picked from a garden in Northumberland wouldn't work for cooking because it lacks fragrance!

    Embo, Helianthemums are short-lived here unless they have a very dry spot with open (relatively, anyhow) soil. Additionally some cultivars have done better than others. The orange ones oddly appear more tolerant of my climate...could just be chance though. I've definitely lost over 50% of the ones I've tried in 10 years. My 'Merrist Wood Cream' is in the driest spot I can find on a south facing wall, and survived the 2nd polar vortex winter. (the spot that opened up because Ceanothus 'Concha' was killed by the first! As expected for a Mediterranean plant versus a coastal CA plant, it seems somewhat more tolerant of aerial humidity)

    * (in the original chemical sense of course, not the agricultural one)

  • 9 years ago

    "'Merrist Wood Cream' is short-lived in Zone 8."

    That has not been my experience. It is just as long lived as any cistus in my area, provided it is given very well-drained soil.

    UpperBayGardener (zone 7) thanked gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)
  • 9 years ago

    Yes, the leaves do indeed give off a wonderful sticky substance that has been used in religious ceremonies as well as healing for thousands of years. Shepherds ran their sheep through the fields and then combed the substance off the wool and sold the blocks of gum in the markets where it can still be found in some Middle Eastern markets. If interested the following link will give more details. Cistus was a favorite in my Walnut Creek, CA garden - true Mediterranean climate - and we grew many different types. When happy they thrive on total neglect!

    http://portugalresident.com/cistus-the-queen-of-the-algarve

    UpperBayGardener (zone 7) thanked ophoenix