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Pot filler over Induction range??

9 years ago

We had a pot filler in our last house and loved it. In our remodel we are moving the range close to the current sink (moving sink) so I think it would be an easy add since the water is currently running a foot away from the new stove location. I have some concern though about a pot filler over an induction (electric) range. Is this ok or an issue?

Comments (18)

  • 9 years ago

    I can't imagine a problem with that arrangement. You can spill water on an induction cooktop without any problem. Is there another problem you are concerned with? If there were to be a leak in the pipes that would not affect the cooktop either. Enjoy your new cooktop and pot filler!

  • 9 years ago
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    My concern was primarily frying the circuits with a large leak or someone turning it on without the pot under it (it happens!). Second concern was electrocution in the same type of situation.

  • 9 years ago
    2ManyDivisions - I have been known to do that and to start coffee without a cup or pot under it to catch the coffee! Plus I have a 9 year old with limited impulse control. I am always considering worse case scenarios!
  • 9 years ago
    I will report back that while I was at our awesome family owned appliance electronics store (Abt) last night I asked our salesman about the pot filler. He said it is fine. He said the cooktop should have a good seal and unless we flood it water shouldn't get into the Electronics.
  • 9 years ago

    Thank you so much! And I agree, always best to assume worst case scenario!

  • 9 years ago

    The hob field is unlikely to couple significantly to a properly mounted pot filler located above the cooktop. In any case, the hob will shut down if there is insufficient coupling detected, as from a proximate pan. However, I see two issues perhaps worth commenting on.

    First, overflowing a pot on a cooktop that is not sealed from the cabinet below will lead to a lot of water where one doesn't want it; and for wood cabinets, I would suggest keeping a pile of junk towels and a fan for drying handy, along with a place to move all of the cabinet contents.

    Second, filling a pot over the stove is seen as a way to avoid lifting and placing a heavy pot, but what about when one is done? Doesn't the pot have to be lifted then? I would suggest that a pot that can't be safely lifted onto the cooktop shouldn't be expected to be safely lifted off the cooktop.

    I am a believer in having a pot filler mounted to flow into a sink or flow into a pot on the counter next to a sink, where extra care is needed to avoid a lesser disaster. Sink edges are, at least, sealed.

    kas

  • 9 years ago
    Kas - good points, this is a slide in range, not a cooktop. Not sure if that makes it better or worse but the salesman said the cooktop (on the range) is sealed where water shouldn't get into the controls. I don't expect a huge leak/overflow regardless, I just wanted to double check. I would get one of the faucets with the second water cut off at the wall to help reduce drips or accidents and I guess I will likely talk to the contractor about how we protect the plug in on the off chance of a large issue. I am going with an over abundance of caution here, we lived at our last house for 10 years and had only one or two small "oopses" with the pot filler over the gas range.

    While I do realize the whole "you still have to take the pot off" argument we did find the pot filler at the last house to be useful in many cases. This is especially the case for my 72 year old mom, who may start something cooking while I am at work and can use the pot filler rather than carrying a heavy pot of water, then leave the pot with waste water for me to move when I get home or one of the kids when they get home from school. Also helpful when cooking soups and stuff like that where you aren't taking the pot back to the sink to drain, you are serving in bowls and storage containers directly from the pot.

    I do agree that a pot filler isn't a must have, but if I can put one in at minimum expense and not have any great risk to the stove then we would want to do that.
  • 9 years ago

    If your sink is only 1 foot away why not just get a faucet with the pull out neck and hose?

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Jakvis - the sink in its current location is only 1 foot from where we are moving the stove, which is why I think I can get this done inexpensively. The sink is however being moved also and will not be that close to the stove.

  • 9 years ago
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    Wood flooring, wood cabinets, this will always be a concern with any water source that has no drainage, but yes, as stobe06 commented, I often find myself leaving large pots on the cooktop, emptying the contents into bowls for serving, and tupperware for freezing. Having said that, I also boil a lot of pastas. That does require lifting water-filled pots to a drainage area. RA runs in my family, and while I don't have it now... filing a pot on the stovetop, then later asking DH to lift it for me when I call him to dinner would be pretty significant. Even lifting a large pot once, rather than twice, I can see as an advantage to some.

    DW's, Fridge/Freezers w/icemakers/ icemakers - these are all water sources that typically do not have drainage if a leak occurs, not to mention pipes underneath sinks. I consider these things to be a must have in a kitchen. That's not to mention boil-overs, spilled glasses and cups... the list goes on : - )

    ETA: also, when I need to add water to smaller pans - or just fill smaller pans, it would be incredibly handy.

  • 9 years ago

    @Jakvis: I understand wanting to have a potfiller, even with a sink close by. We all cook differently. I'll have a 24" prep sink within 2 steps and a pivot. I have spent the last 3 weeks counting the times I would have found a potfiller very handy, and it really adds up for me!

  • 9 years ago
    2ManyDivisions - agree. The most significant damage we had to our wood floors in the old house was when a dog bowl developed a hairline crack and did a slow leak all over the kitchen floor overnight. It was on a small matt to catch drips but it wasn't enough to hold the whole bowl full of water that leaked out. It caused warping that took months to fully dry and straighten out. I will be more careful going forward with what I have the water bowl on, but it never occurred to me that would happen the first time.
  • 9 years ago

    So, the way the pot gets emptied is by bailing (or man muscles), but a lot of the water has steamed off or been absorbed by the food.

    The important thing about a pot filler, if your code allows it, is that it has a much higher flow rate than a regular sink faucet, so it fills a big pot quickly.

    Since there was a sink there before, putting a grated drain next to the range, or perhaps behind it, shouldn't be a big issue. Then you can have the head of the pot filler stay over the drain pan when it is retracted. You can also set up a siphon to pull most of the water out of your pot after you're done.

  • 9 years ago

    I was gonna add a pot filler as part of my kitchen remodel because we do a lot of steamed dishes (Chinese household), a pot filler would make filling the wok/steamer with water a lot easier. So we were looking at appliances, then it dawned on us that a pot filler would be nice, but what we really needed was a steam oven that would totally eliminate filling the steamer with water. So we got a Miele Combi Steam oven instead of a pot filler. We still have to fill the pot with water at the sink to cook noodles or to make soup, but that's so far and few between, we are ok with that.

  • 9 years ago

    I was actually concerned about turning the pot filler on and then becoming distracted, allowing the pot to overflow. All water-fed appliances over wood flooring should have floor located water sensors driving alarms or auto shutoffs to mitigate risk if the wood is important. This is just another aspect of driving toward pro functionality while embracing residential style. A stainless steel cabinet kitchen with tile walls and concrete floor with drain would not have any water risk.

    For the record, I have no objection to pot fillers. I have an RO water pot filler at my prep sink (opposite cooktop) and another pull-type RO source at the main sink. There are a multiplicity of sensors and shut-offs related to main and RO water sources to protect the cherry floor and certain cabinet interiors.

  • 9 years ago
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    Honestly having sensors and shut offs are way beyond anything that we are going to put in. While there is always a risk, as I said in an earlier reply we had a pot filler and other water based functions (water in the door of fridge) and the most damage over 10 years came from a broken dog bowl. At some point this all just gets more expensive than most people can afford, and more expensive than just replacing the floor or stove if something happens. Of course, I also don't have cherry floors or a pro style range.

  • 9 years ago

    plllog The important thing about a pot filler, if your code allows it, is that it has a much higher flow rate than a regular sink faucet, so it fills a big pot quickly. Good to know, thank you.

    strob06 Gonna have to agree with you on this one. While there are tons of sensors (some notify via an app on your cellphone... which makes me think of the app-to-come which notifies a person if they left their child in a hot car... but yet they can remember to take their phone with them??), and linked auto shut offs, and honestly, we looked into this for the fridge and DW), it gets pricey. Not gonna lie, it would be pretty useful (and yes, a phone app would be handy to rush home and shut off water), but when and where do the add-ons stop? We had to say no to several things which were for function as well as form. Our home safety measures are tailored more to personal safety.

    kaseki A stainless steel cabinet kitchen with tile walls and concrete floor with drain would not have any water risk. You gave me a chuckle, as I was thinking almost exactly that after I briefly spazzed on the whole wood floor in a kitchen idea (which we are gallantly or foolishly planning to do).

    Had a terrible water leak at an ice maker copper pipe on a house's wood floor. Found it 3 days later, but got it cleaned up and everything turned out fine in the end - no long-term damage. Other than that, pipes under sinks bursting causing the interior of the cabinet to warp. Problems happen. As individuals, we choose our battles!