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Please Help Identify Strange Parasite

Hello! I'm somewhat of a novice at rose gardening, so this may be a very common pest and I'm just ignorant. LOL. Any help will be much appreciated. Thank you!


I was out looking at one of my David Austin roses this morning, and noticed one of the stems was dried and wilted. Upon closer examination, there were periodic damage spots along the stem, very evenly spaced. About every half inch. The stems weren't girdled, as the damage was just on one side of the stem. It looked like something had gnawed on it in those spots, or as though it had frayed by rubbing against a stone or something. I broke open the branch at one of the spots, and there were these tiny white/pink elliptical things. Almost pearlescent. I don't know whether to call them worms or not, because they appeared to have no head, eyes, mouth, or appendages. I suppose they may have been eggs? There was at least one at each damage point. If I squeezed the things, orange liquid oozed out.


I pruned the stem back several inches below the damage points, and I can only hope that will take care of it? Have any of you dealt with something similar, and are there for other measures I should take? Thanks again for any help.

Comments (12)

  • 9 years ago

    Compare with rose midge.

  • 9 years ago

    Judging from the photos I could find, I don't think that's what it is. I'll go dig my branch out of the trash and try to get some pictures...

  • 9 years ago

    Rose midge fly maggots are usually only found at the very apex of the rose's growing tip.

    I believe some kind of moth, beetle, or wasp slit your stems, deposited eggs, or laid eggs on the stems, and the emergent larva ate their way into the stem. The hope that the hatching out larva will live and grow over winter eating the pith of the stem, was cut short when you removed the damaged stem.

    I've never had such a case, but if you have no similar damage elsewhere in your roses, be thankful. You nipped it in the bud!

    You know, fall cicadas do that kind of damage up in trees at this time of year. The female cicada puts a slit in a tree's outer most twig, lays an egg in the slit, and goes to the next twig. The egg hatches, eats the pith, and the twig above the damage wilts, dries up and dies. The larva drops to the ground, burrows in and feeds on tree roots.

    You may have had a cicada or a cicada like insect do the damage. Leaf Hoppers are related to cicadas.

    Moses


  • 9 years ago

    It was a fairly good sized section

    Evenly spaced damage spots

    The creatures/eggs? Inside the stem


  • 9 years ago

    Thank you, Moses. I believe you're right. I hope this nipped it in the bud! If these things got to my whole bush, it would be devastating.

  • 9 years ago

    Dillybeansown,

    One good thing is that the damage sticks out like a sore thumb in the garden. You have evidently disrupted the insect's life cycle in the stem you removed.

    If it should recur elsewhere, carefully remove the damaged stem well below the damage, as you have done, and have a plastic bag handy in which to place it. Try not to let any grubs drop off, onto the ground. Wrap securely and place in household trash.

    I hope someone who has had the same insect damage you have had responds to your post.

    Moses

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you, Patty! I'm glad to know what they are!

  • 9 years ago

    Finally found this again! I've got some damage on my Enchanted Autumn that looks like this, but smaller 'chewed on' areas. Dilly, did yours start smaller and get bigger? I just hate to cut off that cane - poor 'Autumn' didn't get planted as soon as it should have and got powdery mildew, but that new cane looks perfect!

    Except for whatever bug decided to chew on it.

  • 9 years ago

    Ac if the leaves on rose are fine and the tip of the cane is not wilted you can wait to prune the damage. Just wait until winter sets in or very early spring. So you can kill them before they hatch.

  • 9 years ago
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    You have just described Raspberry Horntail Wasp damage. It is not uncommon to see young rose canes damaged in this way.

  • 9 years ago

    Thanks Patty and Paul! Do these have the potential to become a bloom-stopping, plant-killing infestation, or are they more a here-and-there damage insect? I'm wondering if I shouldn't mark the cane now to remember to get it in the early spring.