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Mixed material island?

9 years ago
I'm planning a large island--the cabinet has been built. With a 17" overhang at one end, it's 5'x10 1/2. It contains the induction cooktop and downdraft. I planned to top it with butcher block, plus I am 5'4, so I had it built to reach 34 with butcher block 2" thick (I like chopping, and cooking, at a little lower height than most seem to, it's easier on my elbows). But I cannot find anyone willing or able to build an end grain butcher block that large. So I am resigned to doing it in soapstone like the perimeter counters, leaving it at 33 1/2--but now I find that it will be difficult to get soapstone in 128 length, either.

And now I'm worried about an overhang in soapstone of 17", without a support planned. Do I:

1. Cut back the overhang--to what? I can get soapstone in 124", so overhang 13" adequate? I do want to be comfortable sitting at the surface.
2. Do the counter in soapstone for most of the surface, then the overhang+maybe a foot to anchor it in wood plank?
3. Seam the soapstone.

I did look into raising the back half and the overhang and doing that as a wood counter. I really like the idea of that, but, again, the cabinet has been built, craftsman-style, with tapered columns at each corner that would be difficult to raise.

Suggestions?

Comments (3)

  • PRO
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    You will have to support that larger overhang and to be honest 12” is really all you need. I find it funny that someone short would design a 60” wide island , I am tall and would not go wider than the 54” I have so that when I clean it I don’t have to walk all the way around. As for making the counter lower than average your resale value will be affected for sure.I think you will maybe have to look at quartz jumbo slabs , They are limited in which ones come jumbo and sometimes the actual logistics of getting them into the space is a problem. All of this should have been addressed by your designer before construction began. There are steel supports for the overhang so you can avoid the corbels that are IMO ugly and take up seating room.

    Liz thanked Patricia Colwell Consulting
  • PRO
    9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I would completely detach a separate chop/ prep spot if this is what you want, or add a pullout toe kick booster and give yourself a lift when prepping. An island over ten feet is a nightmare for MEGA slab selection. Post your layout. It's too darn big. And nobody needs an 18 inch overhang, either.

    Liz thanked JAN MOYER
  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    The island has been built. I made it that large so that I could best use the space in the kitchen, which has an L-shaped counter on two sides; one of the other sides is the dining room (open layout, timber frame), and the other is the hallway from the garage. The long counter has the sink, which is centered in a 7' bay window (views west over the Hudson valley to the Catskills), two small upper cabinets on either side of sink (glass fronts, lit), and a wall unit containing steam oven and wall oven. The short side of the room has a window with a pass-through to the screen porch; that counter has freezer drawers as well as regular drawers (all the lower cabinets, except the sink, are drawers). Next to it is a 36" wide all-refrigerator unit. The walkways are 48" wide. If I had made the island less wide, there would have been an awkwardly-wide hallway. This way, I get drawers on both sides, and storage, including a crystal cabinet on the far side of the island. The cabinets are made from cherry and spalted maple cut from our land.

    I chose to make the island 34" tall because I have chronic tendonitis in both elbows, so it is easier for me to chop, roll out dough, knead, and stir at more than a 90 degree angle. There is plenty of room at the side counter for helpers to chop, if they want a higher counter; in addition, a thick chopping block would bring the level up. This is our retirement home, and we expect to live here for twenty years or so, at the end of which time it will need to be redone anyway, I reckon.

    So I will reduce the size of the overhang to 12 or 15 inches, which means that the soapstone I looked at will work (biggest slab is 62x124), assuming the fabricator can incorporate a steel support. I talked to the foreman today, and he thinks putting a layer of wood under the soapstone, to bring it to the 34" I originally planned, will work.