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Granular Compost?

9 years ago

I'm trying to speed up the organic content in the my lawn to help maintain moisture and increase aeration.


Quotes to spread compost are insane.


Any thoughts on this type of product or anyone have an alternative suggestion?

https://www.gardenersedge.com/the-andersons-humic-dg-granular-soil-conditioner-humic-acid-40lb-bag/p/HUMDG/?kc=geshop17n,&mkwid=sNq34HEcF|dc&pcrid=60345002336&pkw=&pmt=&plc=&prd=HUMDG&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIif7luJyF1wIVh4VpCh2ZbQPQEAQYAiABEgJrvPD_BwE

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  • 9 years ago

    It’s the season that you can start keeping an eye out for bagged leaves. To help with my lawn I started mowing in tons and tons of leaves. I go out on trash night and snag as many as I can get. You can usually pop them open a bit and deal how heavy they are to make sure you are getting just leaves and not other junk.

  • 9 years ago

    It takes about 10 tons of organic material per acre to raise the amount of organic matter in soil one percent, a lot. If you have a 5,000 square foot yard (about 10 percent of an acre) you would need about a ton of organic material (those leaves mentioned above) to raise the amount of organic matter in the soil 1 percent. A couple of 40 pound bags of compost won't do it but 50 of them would be a good start.

  • 9 years ago

    Mowing in fall leaves, as many as you can get, and leaving the lawn clippings down too, seems like a good start. You might try getting some mulch grade straw (cheaper than edible hay), shredding and spreading that with the lawnmower as well. Shredded paper and cardboard are often freely available in plentiful quantities, but will look awful until they break down.

  • 9 years ago

    How much $ we talking for compost spreading?

    I don't know if you are near or in a city big enough to be able to find one of these, but there are compost spreaders that can be pulled behind a riding mower. Looks like a big mesh drum. I'd have a couple yards of compost delivered, persuade someone you know with a riding mower to bring it over (fermented beverages often work for that, trust me) and DIY. Maybe a high school kid or two to help with the shoveling.

  • 9 years ago

    How large of an area? What's the time frame you wish to get this done? What's your level of ability? Even if you spread the compost yourself, will the cost be acceptable? And, do you have extra space around the yard?


    If you have 6 or more months, a little space in the yard, are able to do light work, and little funds, you can do it yourself for free. You can get a load of wood chips delivered to your house for free from a tree trimming service or the utility line maintenance crews. If you get the chips delivered in spring or summer when there are green leaves shredded in with the chips, by end of summer you can screen out the finished compost from the wood. Then you just spread it yourself. You then leave the chips to finish composting and they will continue to break down for future use.


    For now though, if you do have the space - as mentioned - shredded fall leaves are a very good option this time of year. You can apply them directly, or allow them to compost down for spring application.


    Not everyone has the space, but it doesn't take much. And free is always welcomed to those who get sticker shock from seeing the cost of having it done.

  • 9 years ago

    "Quotes to spread compost are insane."


    How insane are they? I'm curious.

  • 9 years ago

    Neighbor wanted some compost on part of his lawn but it is country estate sized. I have a manure spreader that would do the trick but my tractor has lug tires so it is not great for lawns. Solution? Use his tractor with our spreader. Worked like a charm.

  • 9 years ago

    All, thanks for the suggestions!

    Mulching leaves would be my first choice but there aren't any on site due to the vast expanse of openness/wind. Due to the size of the lot I can't imagine the time and energy needed to seek and disperse the number of leaves I need.

    I have about 1.5 acre to cover but could probably prioritize about 3/4 acre.

    For the entire property need $6,000 in compost alone.
    Than $4,000 to spread it.

    If only I could get people to drop off their leaves at my place....hmmm

  • 9 years ago
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    That info gives us a lot more perspective! Yep, I would go with beginning to collect organic matter from a multitude of sources. I have a 35' x 15' x 7' tall pile of wood chips composting right now at my place. Why wood chips? they're free!

    If you're rural, manure is often a great option. Look around for organic waste from industrial sources.

    Some suburban counties give away leaves and composted products.

    But, yeah - perhaps because I'm not as financially 'stable' as some - to me, a lawn is just not worth that cost.

  • 9 years ago

    Ya, that's pretty insane. 1.5 acres is around 64K square feet. So 1 yard of 'post per 1K is 64 yards. If that is what is being considered that is pretty expensive compost.

  • 9 years ago

    I figured it based on 43500 ft2/ac and 1" depth which comes out to 201 cu yd. Sounds like a lot but that's what the math says. Yikes. That really is industrial scale work.

    When you said 'lawn' in the original post, I pictured a suburban lawn maybe 5000 sq ft. 1.5 acres is a whole different scale...

  • 9 years ago

    Most lawn top dressing recommendations I've seen go with 1/4 - 1/2 inch. I just split the difference and use one yard per 1000 ft. Not sure what the OP had recommended to him.

  • 9 years ago

    I'd go with 1" so it would be 200 yards...but not going that route.

    Going to start with some of the ideas in the post! First one is to call up the village and see if they have a stock pile that I can load up a trailer worth of leaves.

    I found a supply house (retail products are obviously set with a one size fits all) that had he appropriate fertilizer ratios of what I needed for the lawn (21-0-21 to start). After a nice rain the lawn really bounced back. I'm really trying to be more proactive with the lawn so that all the trees I planted have a good base as they mature. Some will be in mulch beds and I always opt for the mulch with the higher bark content which gives the soil a boost. But for others they are simply lawn trees to get shade.

  • 9 years ago

    If I understand what you are trying to do, it will take one of two things: a massive infusion of resources or time.


    You know the price to buy material have it spread. Even if you locate cheap material, it'll still require equipment to transport and spread, time to do it, or funds to pay for such. And in the modern era, nothing's cheap.


    Most of this stuff happens over time. Patience is not today what it was a few decades ago. It will happen. It takes time.


    What's practical to do? There is the golden question. Nothing that can be suggested can't be questioned as to practicality or degree of effectiveness.


    What do you know about how the house was built? Do you know where you native soil...and profiles...and not? Was soil (and sub-soil) from excavation piled? What happened after that? How was the final grade prepared, either after construction or for sod/seed?


    What are the problem/challenges you face? What does well? What are the differences you are able to discern?


    Lots of questions, and you may well be past a number of these. I'm not even looking for the answers...that's for you.


    What are you looking for? Organic content? Soil health as defined by a specific criteria you establish? Something to give you warm fuzzies but not costing 10k?


    Could you use the product referenced? Yeah. Not sure what it would do unless you are at the edge of the chart as to a compromised site. But it's not that expensive, and you could do a couple of treated areas and a couple untreated areas side by side...and experience beats advice any day.


    Something I've been looking at are some of the polymer agents that make soil "wetter". Such as a product called hydretain. For specific purposes in specific conditions, there may be advantages. I'm trying work out what i think those might be under my parameters.

  • 9 years ago

    Could a cover crop help in any way? I'm not sure, I'm asking because I'm curious. Maybe let it grow, kill it and turn it into the soil, and reseed your grass next fall. There are guys around here with tractors or skidsteer + attachments offering services like grading, land clearing, and tilling for pretty reasonable rates, whereas landscapers will charge crazy rates for the same thing, more in line with your quotes.