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Bishop's Castle

8 years ago

Looking for posts about Bishop's Castle, I found an old one Jeffcat wrote on Rose Buying Self Control, I don't know how to link it but it's pretty funny.

My search yielded an overpowering urge to click the " yes I need it button" on Northland's website. I don't want to want any more roses, but I might need Bishop's Castle for landscaping. To look up every last detail on Help Me Find ( better known as Help Me Buy ) has about pushed me over the edge.

Turn OFF computer, Go shopping for food. is my strategy til the rose compulsion fade for now.

Comments (21)

  • 8 years ago

    berry pie7 - I know what you mean about that "yes I need it" feeling! I've given in to it too many times. When I'm on the Rose Forum, I often have this "I must share" feeling so forgive me if I'm enabling you. Here's Bishop's Castle.

    I've only had BC since spring and it's still small (about 2 ft) but I've heard it can get quite wide and tall. I love the blooms, color, and fragrance so far!

    Ann

    User thanked Ann9BNCalif
  • 8 years ago

    Gorgeous pictures, Ann. I love those fragrant lilac-pink blooms. Mine seems to have a little less of that violet tinge, unfortunately.

    User thanked ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
  • 8 years ago

    Lovely bloom Ingrid! So many petals. How many years have you had your BC?

    Ann

    User thanked Ann9BNCalif
  • 8 years ago

    Ooooo! Heavenly pink.

  • 8 years ago

    Lovely! but the wallet is safe- Bishops Castle doesnt seem to have made its way down under; not sure why as so many people say it does well in heat. Seriously, we got Wisley 2008, ( if anyone grows that one, they dont post about it ) but not BC?

    User thanked Curdle 10a (Australia)
  • 8 years ago

    Ann, this was a runty specimen from the local nursery which did nothing for several years. I then moved it where it did nothing for another year, but this year it bloomed well and the bloom above was giant, the biggest I've ever seen for this rose.

    User thanked ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
  • 8 years ago

    Great Ingrid! I'm looking forward to seeing what my BC does in 2018. I've got high hopes that he'll be very fragrant and enjoyable. I love his dark pink color. Thanks for sharing your experience!

    Ann

    User thanked Ann9BNCalif
  • 8 years ago

    It does tend to develop long arms which lie on the ground, so when I deadhead I cut way back into the bush. That helps a lot.

    User thanked ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
  • 8 years ago

    Photo by Hoovb who resides and gardens at Roserie de L'Hay.... :-) Carol

    User thanked portlandmysteryrose
  • 8 years ago

    The photos of Hoovb's Bishop's Castles are what convinced me to make BC my first rose purchase for my garden. They are still my best performing roses and favorites due to vigor, exuberance, form and fragrance (my 3 bushes in bloom perfume that whole area of the garden). I must admit, however, that I didn't find the flowers to be very exciting the first year, since they didn't have much form then.

    I've shown these photos before...


    User thanked noseometer...(7A, SZ10, Albuquerque)
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks Noseometer, after seeing your photos I think I would be hard pressed to find a more beautiful pink rose that has it all.

  • 8 years ago

    hoovb's photo shows the perfect way to grow these sprawling roses. Wish I could borrow the steps to do something similar. noseometer, it must be my soil or something, but mine is not nearly that beautiful a color. I love lilac pink roses, but one of the few roses that stays that way in my garden is Sister Elizabeth, which otherwise didn't do that well for me. You just can't have it all.

    User thanked ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
  • 8 years ago
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    Berrypie7 - did you end up getting a Bishop's Castle? Photos from today:

    Mine are just starting: look at the number of buds on each candelabra. I counted over 30 on one. I find that to be unusual for a rose that is as densely petalled as this one.

    Can you tell I love this rose?

    User thanked noseometer...(7A, SZ10, Albuquerque)
  • 6 years ago
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    Nosometer-

    What an absolutely gorgeous rose ! You must have the ideal ground and right spot, that is one sublimely happy Bishop's Castle . Those photos should be in David Austins handbook, could there be any better paragon of a pink rose ?

    Somehow I forgot about it in the shuffle of dozens of roses i wanted. I'm grateful you brought up this thread again just before the David Austin roses come in at the local nursery in Coeur d'Alene.

    I do need to order another rose from Northland Rosarium to meet the shipping requirement to box up with my Marianne rose. I was considering Young Lycidas until I noticed your post. Thanks again for more persuasion, think I'll just hop over to Northland's site and take a look. The lavender cast of Bishops Castle is a color I don't have yet.

  • 6 years ago

    Thanks berrypie7! Bishop's Castle is pretty happy here. If anyone in this climate were to ask which Austin they should start with, I would suggest this one.


    The photo above didn't show BC in full bloom from last year (2019). Here you go.






    User thanked noseometer...(7A, SZ10, Albuquerque)
  • 6 years ago

    Nosometer, your roses are phenomenal. I enlarged the photo and " Ohhh" was an instant reaction. Makes me want to pull five roses out of my front garden and just have Bishop's Castle there. It is a storybook rose.

  • 4 years ago

    OMG what gorgeous bushes!!

    @noseometer...(7A, SZ10, Albuquerque) what did you do to keep your Bishop's castle tamed and in a bushy form? I dont have a space for it to sprawl and was initially thinking of using it as a hedge rose. But after seeing everyone's reviews, it looks like it wont make a good hedge. :(

  • 4 years ago

    @Rose Beginner Zone 9b LA - to be honest, I don't do anything to keep my Bishop's Castle bushy. They don't stay that way all season. They do produce long basals during the summer and I leave them on. But those basals are not as long as Hoovb's, only about 5' tall. But the first flush is usually pretty compact and that may be my climate which is dry and with intense sun. Something you can also do, is to not prune as heavily, so that it doesn't make long canes but becomes twiggier. But then you might get smaller flowers and a big flush with less repeat.

  • 4 years ago

    @noseometer...(7A, SZ10, Albuquerque) how often does Bishop's castle repeat for you?

  • 4 years ago
    last modified: 4 years ago

    Mine give the big flush in the spring, then a bit of a break, then more or less constant but not a lot of blooms through the heat, then another big flush about the same as spring in the fall. In your climate, this will probably be different with your high humidity and moist soil. Someone else on the forum who lives closer to you may be better able to answer your question.

    By the way, I wouldn't recommend Bishop's Castle for a hedge if you want something for a limited space, like a clipped privet hedge. In your climate I suspect that Bishop's Castle may become a sprawling monster. Maybe something more like Alnwick Castle or Queen of Sweden would work better.