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Does anyone know about JET SPRAY?

9 years ago

I thought it was an antique when I bought it at the rose auction. Now I’m not so sure about that. It’s a dwarf hybrid musk by Louis Lens. There’s very little info on it on HMF. I see that it is listed as growing in the San Jose Heritage Rose Garden. Does anyone know anything about Jet Spray? Has anyone seen the mature plant at the SJRG? They did say it was very rare and not available in the US. It was one of the first roses up for bid and and people were very slow to start bidding on the first few roses. I ended up getting it for just $10! I think I was the only bidder. This was in the live auction. I figured if it was dwarf, I could easily fit it in somewhere. Now I’m wondering what it wants, part shade? How big will it get? How often will it bloom? Thanks, Lisa

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  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    Size estimates and flowering period should be adjusted for climate (as always) from the climate of NW Europe to yours... Best thing is to check locally as you already know.

    http://www.lens-roses.be/html/search_w.dhtml?oper=Get&search_detail=N&id=688,session_id=99079852236

    Lisa Adams thanked nikthegreek
  • 9 years ago

    Looks darling!

    Lisa Adams thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 9 years ago

    HMF says it is small (16-20 inches) but I'd bet on it being bigger in your conditions. Cute as a button!
    http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.28493

    You could might contact Jill Perry, Curator, through the San Jose Heritage Rose Garden, where it grows.

    Lisa Adams thanked jerijen
  • 9 years ago

    Thank you, Nik. I found that same description, only it wasn’t in English so I had to guess at a few of the words. This was much better!

    It is cute as a button, isn’t it Sheila? The pink is supposed to have a mauve undertone to it.

    Great Idea Jeri. Do I just look up the San Jose Heritage Rose Garden to email her? I may have her card somewhere. Lisa

  • 9 years ago

    Lisa -- Let me know if you can't find the card. Send me a private message, and I'll put you in touch. OR look for the recent thread here about Mme. Gregoire Staechelin. That was Jill's post.


    Lisa Adams thanked jerijen
  • 9 years ago

    I’ve found Jill’s card, and it has her email on it. I will shoot her an email shortly. Thanks for steering me in the right direction, Jeri. I’m looking forward to learning more about my new little prize:) Lisa

  • 9 years ago
    last modified: 9 years ago

    I experimented with a modest collection of the purple multiflora ramblers a few years back. I thought they were cool. They did not do at all well for me and I eventually gave up on all of them except Violette, which seemed to be healthier than the others. Here they had severe chlorisis and also mildewed. I suspect salts in our irrigation water, though it might have been high soil pH. I did notice that they did better in the part of the year that they were on natural rainfall, which was the reason for my theory.

    If your water and soil are different from mine, it may do very well indeed.

    Rosefolly

    Lisa Adams thanked Rosefolly z5
  • 9 years ago

    Oh my goodness! I’m shocked, Kim!!! A climber? I was sure it was going to remain a tiny thing....

    Rosefolly, my soil and water are pretty alkaline. Some of my roses suffer from terrible powdery mildew. The only reason I bid on it, (other than the fact that no one else did) was that it was described as a dwarf hybrid musk. They said it was a SMALL rose. Just how big are we talking here, and would it like some shade? Thanks, Lisa

  • 9 years ago

    It would probably be more "purple" and less "red" in less blistering sun/heat, Lisa. It is called a "hybrid musk", which means a hybrid multiflora and that translates to an arching shrub to climber, depending upon the climate and conditions it's grown under. Just like all the others. Penelope, Kathleen, Buff Beauty, all of them can make rather hefty climbers if they're not whacked severely and they grow in a climate which doesn't limit their development. It's very much like the Austin roses. Where the climate is harsh, they are bushes. Many here, where nothing other than deer, fires, drought, gophers, rabbits or your gardener limit them, they can get huge.

    Lisa Adams thanked roseseek
  • 9 years ago

    Hi All


    Sorry for the delay in commenting. I have this rose from Kim growing and I really like it. So far it has thrown some longer canes and I will try and get some good photos of it this weekend so you can see what you think. But if it is a climber, it has not gotten very large so far. It might do great in a large pot but let me take a better look and post some photos

    Lisa Adams thanked Kippy
  • 9 years ago

    Thank you, Kippy. That would be great! I really appreciate it. I heard from Jill this morning. ( My delay, not hers. I just emailed her yesterday.) She said they do indeed grow Jet Spray at the SJHRG, but she hasn’t looked at it closely. If it’s not raining this coming Saturday, she’s going to take a look at it. I’m really glad to have found TWO Jet Spray’s in the US, (and CA, no less) to glean some personal information from. I must admit, I’m quite relieved that the first thing out of your mouth,(or fingers, I guess it would be) wasn’t, “Jet Spray has grown up to be a HUGE climber for me.” I shall look forward to your photos, and any other info you may have. Thanks very much! Lisa

  • 9 years ago

    Lisa, I visited Kippy this afternoon when I went to Santa Barbara to present my propagation program to their rose society and we went to look at the rose in question. I apologize. I had a "senior moment". You inquired about Jet Spray and I remembered Jet Flame. So, please disregard my comments above.

    Lisa Adams thanked roseseek
  • 9 years ago

    Hallelujah! Maybe it’s not going to be a climber? No problem, Kim. I’ll see what Kippy and Jill say over the weekend. :) Lisa

  • 9 years ago

    Thank you. Kippy's plant is Jet Flame, the one I gave her. We looked at it and it isn't the one you asked about.

    Lisa Adams thanked roseseek
  • 9 years ago

    No problem, Kim. At least Jet Spray is at the SJHRG, so Jill can give me some info on it. It looks perfectly happy in its pot, for now, so I’m not in any rush to plant it. Our cooler temps have just arrived, so I have plenty of time. Thanks, Lisa

  • 8 years ago

    I heard from Jill last night. She said theirs is in need of a trim, but the longest cane is about mid thigh on her. It looks like Jet Spray will remain small. Yay! Thanks for all the help. Lisa