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My list for next year???

Here is what I would like to add next year

Mandarinquat, Finger lime, Rangpur, Sudachi, Kishu, Australian blood lime, Open Buddas hand ( I believe the one I have is closed hand) And my dream would be to fine the variegated BH.

What is on your list??

Comments (51)

  • 8 years ago

    I have a GN and lots of flower buds. So with some luck, I might get some to try next year.

  • 8 years ago

    If I can get my hands on a nice Buddha Hand and Bergamot Sour Orange in 2018 than I would consider my current citrus list complete and I would be very happy. Then after that I would only add something rare and unique. Limited room space when they grow up.. lol

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked jinnylea
  • 8 years ago

    I wouldn't mind getting a tangerine tree or a Kumquat tree. I'm fascinated with the quat family after my pleasant experience with the limequat. I'm now keeping an open eye for these fruits in the supermarket. Maybe a Lisbon Lemon tree to tell my friends I have a Portuguese tree. I've been thinking of other fruit trees like FIgs or the challenging Super Dwarf Banana tree.

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked TheyCallMeDave
  • 8 years ago

    Susanne, you posted a picture of your GN fruitlets and they are super cute!

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked Alanna Migliacci
  • 8 years ago

    I have four fig trees too but really not planning to add onto them. I hope I can get it over me and plant them outside. Would love a miracle fruit one day :)

  • 8 years ago

    The miracle berry that makes everything sour taste sweet? I want one!

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked Alanna Migliacci
  • 8 years ago

    yup, that one :) And an olive tree and a green house because I will run out of space LOL


  • 8 years ago

    Maybe only one tree - a Santa Teresa lemon or sour orange. So far, I have 9 fruit trees (7 citruses + plum + pomegranate). Just have no more space in both my backyard and front yard.

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked Mikhail (Bay Area/East Bay - 9b)
  • 8 years ago

    One tree for sure and that's a New Zealand Lemonade. I would like to have a Minneola, but it needs pollinator and I really don't know if I can fit an additional 3 in my sunroom next winter.

  • 8 years ago

    Olive trees - I forgot!

  • 8 years ago

    You guys listed the trees you want but most of you did not say why you want them, so why do you want them?

    My greenhouse is full - can't fit any more in. I can put a few in my living room, but at this point, with 39 varieties and 68 trees of different sizes, I can't think of any tree I want.

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked Vladimir (Zone 5b Massachusetts)
  • 8 years ago

    I have 5 seed grown Meiwa, 1 grafted Meiwa, 1 grafted Fukushu, 1 grafted NZL, in my bedroom. The rest are outside in ground under glass.

    That is all I can handle. I will pray for the rest of you all that have way more trees. I am considering getting a Marumi kumquat.

    Steve

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked poncirusguy6b452xx
  • 8 years ago

    So far, i only have (and want) trees that produce fruit in like to eat

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked Alanna Migliacci
  • 8 years ago
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    Steve, I don't need prayers. I enjoy ALL my trees.

  • 8 years ago
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    Below is my what and why, its truly a wish list as I don't think I will purchase all of them unless our new house has tons of room or I build that greenhouse but will start with the trees I most desire that are in bold.

    Austrailan Lime - Because I am fascinated with all of the different limes there are.

    Bearss Lemon - It is supposed to have a higher rind oil content and I use a lot of zest in my cooking and for making lemoncello.

    Baboon Lemon - Laura inspired me with how beautiful her tree is and I hear they have a really tropical flavor to them.

    Genoa Lemon - I love lemons and like the idea of the Italian varieties.

    Sudachi - another to add to my Japanese cooking endeavors.

    Bergamot - Mostly for the smell and floral flavor.

    Cara Cara Navel Orange - I don't have any oranges and this one is still unusual enough to make me want it.

    Tahitain Pummelo - I really love pumellos and only have hybrids, would love to try a true variety and this one seems like a good place to start.

    The Elusive Variegated Buddhas Hand - The BH is my favorite tree of my whole collection, I would love to add a beautiful variegated version as well.

    Xie Shan Satsuma - Supposed to be very good I don't have a satsuma yet.

    Shiranui - Supposed to be the best and who doesn't want the best.

    Golden Nugget Mandarin - Supposed to be a great mandarin that is pretty popular.

    Ponkan Mandarin - I hear that have a really good flavor.

    Owari Satsuma - I want to trial some trees in ground and with try these three and see how they do here.

    Miho Wase Mandarin - I want to trial some trees in ground and with try these three and see how they do here.

    Kuno Wase Mandarin - I want to trial some trees in ground and with try these three and see how they do here.

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked Sammers510
  • 8 years ago

    Ha, long list indeed. Please let me know if you ever find the variegated BH. I'll do the same. That would be the one on top of my list just because I love the variegated leafs, and production is really secondary for those.

    Here my variegated mineola. Isn't it just beautiful? Love the different shades of green.


  • 8 years ago

    Susanne, I was talking to a lady this morning at the FL ag department and she told me that varigated plants are caused by a virus. Once that virus goes away, it reverts back to a normal green tree. I thought that was interesting.

  • 8 years ago
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    Then this lady is miss informed. It will not revert back to green as this is caused by a mutation. Maybe she used virus infection on cucumber/ beans or other crops as example. And even there I thought there is no cure and plants will eventual die

    Eta. Citrus that revert back to green might have problems with their environment (light, water and/or temps)

  • 8 years ago

    My Variegated Vinca Major at 20 years old is slowly turning green in individual patches in my yard. Most is still variegated with a lot of it not as variegated.

    Steve

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked poncirusguy6b452xx
  • Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked Vladimir (Zone 5b Massachusetts)
  • 8 years ago

    Oh, that seems to be old. You could try and cut the green parts out. Must be beautiful. Does it has variegated flowers too?

  • 8 years ago

    flowers are not variegated. I never thought of cutting the green out. I will look into it.

    Steve

  • 8 years ago

    Guys, I have two variegated BH bc the “tree” Logees sent me was actually two. They are both small and I’d not say they’re great growers, but if someday they’re large enough to take cuttings, I will and will send some to you both. It may be a while though...great list guys. I am still eyeing the Tahitian pomelo, but nothing yet. I already have an oroblanco and cocktail grapefruit.

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked Laura LaRosa (7b)
  • 8 years ago

    Susanne, the lady I spoke to said she owned and managed a plant nursery in the past as well as currently working for Florida Department of Agriculture who works daily with scientists. She said as the plants thrive in their environment with good soil, lighting and fertilizer the virus goes away and the plant becomes greener. I purchased 3 varigated hydrangeas years ago and they are almost all green now. I am just passing information that she told me. Her explanation sounded good at the time.

  • 8 years ago

    Laura I'm wondering why they quit to sell this variety. They also have a variegated citron but say is not in production right now. Cara seem to be known for developing a variegated sport and I'm little bit hoping that one of mine will do that too. Did your trees grow at all? The Tahitian pomelo sounds interesting too after I looked at some descriptions. Did you had a chance to try the cocktail grapefruit? My two little Oro blancos still holding on and seem to grow. Lots and lots of flower buds too and thankfully new leafs as well.

    Denise I read a lot about variegation of citrus before I even got my first variegated eureka. There is some misinformation out there and your agrar lady might not has all the info. But if you take the time, you can find the right info too. Did you look at the link Vladimir posted? In one of the comments is a great explanation.

  • 8 years ago

    Mutations may arise when the bases (letters) in a gene in a DNA molecule, the genetic material is changed. This usually inactivates the gene. This can occur randomly or as the result of exposure to certain chemicals or to ionizing radiation. Another way a mutation may arise is by a virus inserting into a gene thus inactivating it.

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked Vladimir (Zone 5b Massachusetts)
  • 8 years ago

    To my knowledge the variegation from pink lemon occured randomly and same with Cara. I have not yet found any info on calamondin or cenntenial kumquat. Vladimir do you know if they changed DNA actively on some citrus? I read they produced a lime with red coloration inside. How cool is that.

    I bought a variegated hibiscus this year. Even the flowers are striped. Will be interesting how this will grow over the years.


  • 8 years ago

    Susanne, one of the BH grew more than the other. When I separated them, one was a runt. The runt is flowering, but has not grown many leaves....even in the summer. The other is better. I love the way variegated trees look, but I am more interested in fruit and I know they are weaker plants, so I mostly opt for the green ones.

  • 8 years ago

    I saw some picture of the variegated fruit and it looked really nice. Kinda yellow green striped. But I believe the pattern will fade as the fruit ripens fully.

  • 8 years ago
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    Susanne - one example is Tango which is an induced genetic mutation (irradiated) of W. Murcott Afourer mandarin. The mutation basically made fruit generally seedless and the variety is patented by UCR - http://www.citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/tango.html

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked jenny_in_se_pa
  • 8 years ago

    Susanne, Jenny gave one example and there are others that I have read about but do not remember the varieties.

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked Vladimir (Zone 5b Massachusetts)
  • 8 years ago

    Thank you for the link Jenny. Vladimir but it does not mention variegated leaf/fruit pattern.

  • 8 years ago

    Susanne, that is what the posting is about, isn't it? Am i missing something?

  • 8 years ago

    Yes I guess maybe miss understanding? The link does not lead to an article about variegated leaf pattern and how they started. But the link you posted does.

  • 8 years ago

    It’s too expensive for me to add any more citrus as I would need a bigger property/house. :D it would be nice to try some varieties of mandarin but I don’t have the space atm.

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked User
  • 8 years ago

    Originally maybe 6 of these variegated sour orange sprouted from seed I started in January of this year. Unfortunately only these 3 have survived so far.


    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked cory (Zone 7a, NJ)
  • 8 years ago

    Cory they look awesome. So interesting that they seem to have all different patterns. Is this a recent picture? Do you know what variety this sour orange is? Seems Laaz is not coming back the forum and not answering messages either :( He planned to sell some bud wood from his variegated trees and blood mandarin and I would have loved to get some too. Do you still have contact with him? Hopefully he is okay.

    I wish you all the best and that they will become beautiful trees.

  • 8 years ago

    Susanne, The photos were taken this morning. I find the different patterns interesting too. Laaz just said they were sour orange that come true variegation from seed, not a specific type. I haven't seen him post anywhere in a while. I hope he is ok. He always had interesting posts and collected variegated citrus and other interesting citrus not easy to find. It was nice when he posted he had seeds or plants for sale as they were always unusual. It was interesting he lived in that microclimate. I hope he starts posting again.

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked cory (Zone 7a, NJ)
  • 8 years ago

    Cory me hoping too. it seems the seedlings are not growing very fast. Is this because of the variegation or are you keeping them on the cool side? First one looks like it want to revert to all green? Looks bigger too.

  • 8 years ago

    Hi Cory

    +

    Bottomless 5 gallon bucket with clamp light over your seedlings will really make your seedlings grow through winter. second picture has meiwa. last year the plants shown in the first picture were under that bucket and light.

  • 8 years ago

    Susanne, they are on a sunny windowsill. It probably gets cooler there at night. I probably need a light on them as Steve says but I have so many lights on plants already that I just keep these on my sunniest but narrow windowsill as they fit there. They are probably slow because of the variegation. The ones that hardly had any green have died. The larger one with the greener leaves does look like the green leaves are taking over, but even those green leaves still have a speck of cream color which is interesting that the variegation is still in those leaves.

    Cory

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked cory (Zone 7a, NJ)
  • 8 years ago

    Sush, would you consider moving down south of me so that you can stick all your tree's in the ground, i'll help you move.

    Bob

  • 8 years ago
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    Good idea sharing our wish list :)

    I think I may order that variegated Eureka from Target. I don't use many acidic lemons and for that price it'll be a great ornamental tree. When I do get lemons from it, I'll cook up some baked goods for the special holidays.

    I'd want to add a Gold Nugget for its reputation of an amazing flavor and according to four winds it ripens in spring/summer. I'd add a second mandarin that ripens a different season near winter..a Satsuma mandarin or maybe a Page mandarin as Brian suggested it's easy to grow. Mandarins for both cold and warm weather seasons!

    A blood orange for the unique taste. I'd love to have a citrus fruit with hints of berry flavor. I've read posts here about different experiences with each variety so I'm not sure which I'd go for. Either a Moro or Tarocco but I definitely want homegrown blood oranges.

    A Sunquat maybe? If I ever get to try one.

    Lastly either the finger lime or red lime. I haven't decided which I like better. The caviar beads look adorable but the red lime pulp is also so beautiful. I prefer to eat fruit fresh out of hand so these limes are lower on my general grow list.

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked kvetchlambkin (nyc 7b)
  • 8 years ago

    I am trying sooooooooo hard to resist getting that lemon. Need to save space for the lemonquat that is higher on my list.

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked hibiscus909
  • 8 years ago

    Thank goodness I already have the variegated lemon and is growing very nicely. I really would not know where to put another tree. De-humidifier is coming next week and I just hope I get all my trees healthy through this winter. Right now everything is growing and stretching out. Before the winter is over, I have to come up with a solution to give them more space.

  • 8 years ago

    You will be much happier with the lemonquat.

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked poncirusguy6b452xx
  • 8 years ago

    Oh yeah add a Trovita orange to that list lol Can't leave out the ones that ripen with less heat!

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked kvetchlambkin (nyc 7b)
  • 8 years ago

    Laura, thank you so much for your offer. I know how slow growing my BH hand has been so I totally get it may be a long while before you need to trim yours. I love the look of the Variegated plants but have to find a way to balance appearance vs. production.

    I know in Brugmansia variegation often reverts back to the original green plant and the only way to keep it is to start a new plant off of the sport with the variegation. I believe hydrangea do this too and I have been told its a virus. I assume that in citrus it is a different phenomenon that makes them have the variegation so it doesn't revert back like other plants.

    Susanne Michigan Zone 5/6 thanked Sammers510
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