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Moving Molineux?

Hi all,

I have a 3 year old Moli that has done well in part shade (morning sun only) and terrible soil. I'm thinking of transplanting it to another bed that gets full sun, south and west exposure, all day. When I say Moli has "done well," I mean it flowers regularly, from February to December, and I like the blooms (they have a fragrance as well, at least some of the time). The shape of the bush, though, is irregular, stalky, and not particularly vigorous, compared to my other Austins I acquired around the same time (i.e., Tamora, Queen of Sweden, Munstead Wood).

Would moving this rose to a full-sun location make for a better, fuller bush?

Can Moli take a full day of sun in our merciless 90+ summers in SoCal (zone 10A/20)?

Is it wise to move an established rose at all? I am nervous about that.

The "terrible soil" is where a very large pine tree flourished for years - it was there when we bought the house in 1986. Eventually it died, and we took it out in 2006. The root system, however, went on and on, far into the ground. Digging there, I found literal gaps in the earth: root, empty space, root. Some of the roots were fungused into the bargain. I planted Molineux in the best soil I could find, amended freely, mulched like mad, put in drip immigration -- and here she is today. It's hard to think another location wouldn't be an improvement.

Thanks as always,

Sylvia



Comments (7)

  • 8 years ago

    I don’t have the answer, but I wanted to say that I’m glad you asked this question, Sylvia. I just bought Molineux and I’m wondering how best to place it. I’ll be interested to hear if full sun is ok in So CA for Molineux. Thanks for asking this! Lisa

    SylviaWW 9a Hot dry SoCal thanked Lisa Adams
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Have no (or almost none, lol) fear. Molineux should love more sun as long as you can supply water; just avoid planting near anything that will reflect heat back on it. I've even moved roses in summer. I wouldn't recommend it on a regular basis, but it can be done. I do suggest shading the plant for a week to ten days, even two weeks in your climate. The best info online are the videos by Paul Zimmerman. He has a whole series you might want to watch, but here's a link to his transplant videos:

    Moving An Established Rose During Dormant Season

    Moving A Rose During The Growing Season

    SylviaWW 9a Hot dry SoCal thanked fig_insanity Z7b E TN
  • 8 years ago

    Does Molineux fade in full sun? CA has some awfully bright sun. Thanks, Lisa

  • 8 years ago

    My Molineux, in full sun (but this is Kansas, not So. Cal.), tends to have richer, more apricot hues in its yellow blooms in spring/early summer. As the summer goes on and sun beats down stronger, he usually puts out more yellow or light yellow/off white bloom. Towards autumn, the full range of colors tend to reappear, but not as strongly as in the spring.

    All those bloom colors are lovely. I've also had M. put out a nearly pink-centered bloom occasionally. The changing colors of M. is half his charm.

    Molineux--with apricot overtones.

    Molineux--yellow/light yellow


    Hope that helps.


    Kate

    SylviaWW 9a Hot dry SoCal thanked dublinbay z6 (KS)
  • 8 years ago

    Thank you, all!

    Lisa, one of the things I like about M. is that it does not fade in full sun -- at least not in the morning sun it's enjoyed these three years.

    Ken, you've given me strength. I shall not quail!

    Fig, M. will be far enough away from the house to not be reflected upon - it'll be surrounded by other roses all around the same age,

    Dublin, I see that same changes in color over the year that you report. Sometimes M. is as apricot as Tamora, other times yellow as Julia Child.

    Now if only it would rain around here, to soften up the soil ... I had hopes of a shower today, but no such luck. Last year by this time we were splashing in the stuff. Puts out fires, too!


  • 8 years ago

    What a beauty! Thanks for the help and the gorgeous pictures. I’m doubly glad I have Molineux, after reading and seeing this! I think because it should stay on the smaller side (for an Austin), I’ll be able to give it some afternoon shade. Mine could go into the ground right now, but like Sylvia, I’m waiting for some rain! We’ve had nothing yet, and everything is bone dry and rock solid. A good rain would be so good for SO many things here in California. Lisa