could you put 2 fixtures in the center and one on each side of the mirror. Each set having its own switch. Just a thought. Then you could place the lights symmetrically along the sides of the mirrors. Your mirrors might need to be a bit narrower.

enduring, I actually looked for sconces that had a double light ans single light option to do something like that. Most of the ones I liked were not very tall though - many only 5" high, and I didn't feel attracted to them. I may do a mock up like you suggested. It would be pricey though - lights are $270 each!

I like the idea of narrower mirrors, but not too narrow. What do you think is minimum width that would actually be functional? The sink width is 20" (recessed).

Also, wondering if anyone can comment on the mounting box for these lights. I noticed most call for a 4" octagonal box but these say 3x5. Would that be a problem down the line if I need to replace the lights - given the wall will be fully tiled? We could get in from the backside (closet), but I just want to understand if that is even an issue.

Ok, here is a mockup with the lights as enduring suggested. I also made the mirrors 22 wide and moved them down a tad. They are now 20" off the counter. The faucet I am using is shown is the right collection and height, but I will have the single handle model. Lights are 3" off the mirror, 4.5" between the two in the middle and about 5.25" from the side walls.

I moved the lights a little higher too. BTW, these are 18.75" high - they also come in 11" high but don't look as nice IMO.

Any comments on the light box shape size? Is it going to be an issue down the road?

I can't answer your question about the rough-ins for your lights. Have you thought about posting over on the Lighting forum? They have really good info sometimes.

What's the lumen listed on your light fixture? I have about 1600 lumens
per sconce (one on each side of the mirror) in my bathroom, and due to
the white shades, I wouldn't want it any lower. In my other bathroom its plenty bright enough.

I like the narrower mirrors. Is the faucet handle going to be on top of the faucet? With my mirror/medicine cabinet I made sure that my mirror was high enough to accommodate the cabinet opening when the faucet handle was full on/up.

Good point about the lumens. Yours are really high powered! Can you share which lights you have?

I checked the lumens for the light I am considering, and there seems to be conflicting data. One site (Lumens) lists it at 900, but that seems to be based on the wattage of the fixture. LightingDirect (build.com) says 1218 on their description, but the mfg specs say 1460. The wattage seems to vary a slight bit too (11.9,10.5,10.1 respectively, which don't correlate to the lumens ratings). CRI is 80 or 85 depending on where you look.

At the low end of 900 lumens, that would be about the same as a 65 watt bulb. We only have 2 recessed lights above our vanity now that are 65 watts, and many older vanity lights only take 60 watt bulbs max. Also, we could also put 2 recessed lights in the ceiling above the vanity in addition to these lights. I would definitely prefer something more robust than 900 lumens, but the mfg seems to indicate that they are 1460. And dimmable. Who knew lights would be so confusing!

Also, the faucet has a toggle handle that extends 8-3/16" above the deck. The mirrors are 10" off the deck in my drawing and are not cabinets, so no door swing issue. But I certainly don't want to be touching the mirror or splashing on it. In my mockup, the mirrors were 10" off the deck.

To make matters worse, Lumens has 4 of these on open box right now at a substantial savings (147 vs 272), but non returnable. Not comfortable with the nonreturnable part.

The mock-up looks good. I have an oval mirror in my powder room that measures 19" at its widest point and it provides plenty of viewing space. Sconces 3" off the mirror is my preferred minimum.

I've seen dozens of contemporary baths with narrow mirrors in my Houzz
searches over the years. This is my only saved search. I like the mirror close in width to the sink, giving it a waterfall effect. The height contributes to that illusion too. I actually like the mirror to the counter but I know it would
be a pain, as will the flat surface of your faucet as you reach for the
handle with wet hands. You'll have a lot of water spots but they can be
wiped off after every use. For that matter, if you're wiping the faucet anyway, you could wipe the mirror.

Thanks Mayflower! I really like the look of the mirrors to the counter in your picture! I wish I could see up close, but it doesn't look like they are sitting in a channel. That seam between the mirror and counter would be a bear to keep clean.

DH told me to go ahead and order one of the lights (open box). If I like it, hopefully the other 3 will still be available. If not, I'll just have to pay full price, but at least I will have one at half price! Just got the quote for bathroom fixtures including the freestanding tub and it was less than expected, so every little bit helps!

Yes, I do remember reading before about water spots, and I have a similar faucet in my powder room so I understand the issue. It may just force me to keep it polished!

I am doing a similar thing, numbersjunkie, with the mirrors and tube sconces. I only have two sconces, though. I will probably be doing a question on my lights soon. I finally decided on a sink and faucet, too. I ended up with a sink that could not be ordered without a faucet hole, so got a single hole faucet. I just could not see myself putting up with dripping soapy water all over my faucet when I tuned it on each time. (I tend to get my soap foam from the dispenser before I turn on the water.) So I found a faucet with a side handle control. That also means one less consideration for my mirror cabinet heights - because my mirrors do open. I will probably still be wiping daily, too, but it might just be the handle and the sink, not the spout!

I have seen plenty of the plate glass mirrors with light fixtures mounted right on the glass. It is a popular look. As long as the mirror is attached to the wall, I would guess it does not have to be a full wall mirror, but can be a smaller one.

Here are smaller mirrors with embedded sconces.

This one even has the faucet coming out of the mirror!

I'm resurrecting this thread to give an update and ask for more opinions. I ordered one of the original light as an open box (non-returnable) item. Glad I only ordered one! It looked too bulky to me even though it was only 3.5" wide and 18.75" tall. But the chrome base was also not very nice looking with to noticable "dimples" that even my husband spotted right away. So it was back to the drawing board and I have to admit I was getting really stressed since demo starts in a week and I know they will need to know "exact" locations for the electrical boxes soon.

But last night I stumbled upon what I think is a great light. Its apparently a brand new design (Tetris from Norwell); high quality (with a price to match). It's a dimmable Led with 1260 lumens. 3000k, which I hope is not too stark. I like that it's simple, but not too simple. Its 4.5" wide (backplate) and 16" tall. I'm guessing that the light shade is maybe 1.5-2.0 inches wide, so hopefully it will not look to heavy/bulky like the last one.

Now for my dilemma. I mocked this light up using 4 lights, 3.5" from each edge of a 21" wide mirror. That leaves 32.5" between the centers of the lights on either side of the mirrors. I read 36" was ideal. And I place them so the center of the light shade was at 66" off the floor. Wondering if I should pull the lights in a bit to be 3" off the mirror, which would also increase the space between the lights in the center. I know I'm probably overthinking this, but the wall will be all tile and once the boxes are in there will be no way to make adjustments. I also tried 3 lights, but felt like 4 looked better.

Here's my mock up:

Since I'm really bad at visualizing things and often struggle with getting the scale of things right, I'm looking for input on whether these lights are a good fit for my space and located properly?

Hi Numbersjunkie, I like the new sconces. I am kind of stuck with the huge Mercer Tube sconces at Pottery Barn, since I got them at the beginning of my purchasing for my remodel, maybe three years ago. So I can see the attraction of these - they have style, are small, really put out the lumens, and are LEDs. If I had known my contractor was going to be unavailable for three years, I would have waited!

I fully understand why you have four, not three. There is too much room in the center for just one, and the spacing would be off if you tried to space the outer two to match one in the center. They would all be too far from the mirrors. I like what you have posted. Just be sure to use a dimmer switch compatible with LEDs on these because you are probably not going to want to have it on at maximum "volume" a lot of the time. You may want to have each set of two on its own switch.

The scale looks right, being the size and number of sconces in relation to the size of the mirrors and the space. I don't have knowledge about the height, and cannot contribute there. Overall, the space looks balanced and in proportion.

I really like your new sconce choices and wish I did not have $600+ sunk into my lighting already, or I would go for those, too!

I like the lights too. I believe I read somewhere that the lights should be about 5.5 feet. For me I mounted mine a little higher in my east bathroom because they jut out more then the other bathroom. Yours look pretty flat against the wall so not an issue in this case IMO. If you play around with your elevation, you might find the sweet spot. I don't think you want them too much higher than what you have them, but a few inches wont matter IMO. I think every thing looks well balanced.

Here are my lights in my West bathroom. Counter height is 36". The rough in box is at about 63" off finished floor. The lights are about 70" at light center. The height for me is fine.

I love the narrow profile of those sconces, enduring. Who makes them? Do you also need an overhead light with them?

Everything looks good on paper, numbersjunkie. Have you looked for
modern sconces that have a double light that can be used in the center like this photo?

Thank you everyone for your encouragement! I did order 4 of the Norwell Tetris lights, so hopefully I won't be disappointed when they arrive. I plan to do as suggested and have a separate switch (with dimmer) for each side.

This was pretty much that last major thing on my list before construction starts on Monday. I've been planning this remodel for literally years, so it's very exciting. Now I just need to finish clearing out the areas where construction will occur. Not a small task since construction affects 3 out of the 5 storage areas/closets we had on the second floor, and we have been pack rats for sure! Purging so much stuff is very uplifting!

I will try to document the process here for everyone to follow, and I'm sure stuff will come up along the way that will require your help and advice!

Numbers, do you want to start a new thread for your project/construction? I would love to see your project in progress. It was our pleasure to help you :)

I have Norwell scones in my East Bathroom and have been very happy with them. These are the ones that are set a bit higher because of the protrusion. I had them roughed in a little lower and my DDIL was visiting. She made fun of the low set and she is only 5'! So up the wall they went. These are perfect. DH uses this area to shave and never c/o poor lighting. These use 100watt bulbs. It is the only lighting in the room other than the under vanity, and behind the mirror LED strip lighting I have for night lighting.

Norwell sconces in my East Bathroom, click to open up the picture. ETA it looks like this picture is of the faucet not fully installed:

Mayflowers, I don't have a light in the ceiling that vanity area. I have 2 ceiling fan vents/lights that are 50watts halogen in other areas of the West Bathroom, that is the walnut trimmed and vanity. Kind of weak lights. ONe in the shower and the other near the w/d. The vanity lights are 120watts each. I would not want it any less. I have a heating light on the ceiling too, with 2each 240watt bulbs. That really throws some light, and heat. So my ceiling 2 vent/lights (fantech product) are sort of mood lighting intensity. Then the vanity lighting is just enough for makeup application. With the heating lights turned on, I can find earring backings on the floor, lol. I have the dark wood and the dark floor, so I think that makes the room a little darker. In my East Bathroom, shown above, all the wood surfaces are very light gray or white. The scones seem to throw more light, but are essentially the same wattage/lumens. The room is smaller too and the ceiling is only 7' high.