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Our daughter wants to change from an electric stove to a gas range

8 years ago

Just starting to look at gas ranges and prices in Canada. 30 inch gas top with a electric convection oven. looking for pros ad cons of various makers. LG, Samsung, Frigidaire Professional. Price range from $1500 to 2500, Cdn. Anybody wish to comment?

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  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Does she already have the gas line? If not, you need to figure the cost of that addition - assuming your daughter's municipality offers gas.

    I can tell you in advance that people on this forum are going to tell you that your daughter should stay with electric, but switch to an induction range.

    Sandy Gordon thanked M Miller
  • 8 years ago

    A dual fuel range was my dream for a long time, but getting a gas line plumbed in was a horribly expensive headache, so (as mentioned) be sure to consider the cost. If she's already got gas there, I'll just say I've heard some unpleasant things from people who've had Samsung appliances (but not specifically a dual fuel range).

    Sandy Gordon thanked Toronto Veterinarian
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    8 years ago

    I can only speak from a cooking perspective, I cook daily and have had both electric and gas stoves, and much prefer gas! However if my current house didn't have gas lines for the stove all ready I'm not sure I would want to pay to have them installed.

    Sandy Gordon thanked Verona Home Design
  • 8 years ago

    Thank you for your information. Our daughter has a gas furnace and fireplace so the gas line is near the kitchen, but it will be another cost, for sure. Thanks again for your prompt reply.

  • 8 years ago

    I've cooked on gas and electric and I would definitely vote for gas. The cost would be worth it to me.

    Sandy Gordon thanked beth09
  • 8 years ago

    We installed a Wolf gas cooktop over a Dacor electric wall oven in our kitchen remodel back in 2005. We've been pleased with this set up.

    Sandy Gordon thanked jrb451
  • 8 years ago

    In our old house we installed a gas line, with permits, from the gas fireplace that was in the other room. Best decision ever. Now we are building and will be having a gas stove again. We are planning on a 36" kitchen aid commercial style. https://www.kitchenaid.ca/en_CA/shop/-[KDRS467VSS]-2100449/KDRS467VSS/

    Sandy Gordon thanked User
  • 8 years ago

    I have had both gas and electric. Gas - I like cooking with gas burners, but the grates are a pain to clean. Electric - the smooth surface top is sooo easy to clean, but still stays hot for a little while after shutting off. I also like the oven better, I think it controls the temp of the oven better. If I had my choice between gas or electric I really don't know which way I would go.

    Sandy Gordon thanked functionthenlook
  • 8 years ago

    :Our daughter has a gas furnace and fireplace so the gas line is near the kitchen, but it will be another cost, for sure."

    Ahh, not so bad, though. I still vote for induction, but you didn't ask ;)

    Sandy Gordon thanked Toronto Veterinarian
  • 8 years ago

    Hi: I purchased Fridgidare Gallery induction range a year ago, and I like it, but hardly any of my pots and pans will work. My 60 year old pans work beautifully, but not most of my newer pans. Funny I am using my bride's pots and pans again.

  • 8 years ago

    " Funny I am using my bride's pots and pans again."

    Everything old is new again! Hopefully it keeps you feeling young! (I had to replace about half of my cookware, but it was so worth it).

    Sandy Gordon thanked Toronto Veterinarian
  • 8 years ago

    I was die hard gas but now that I've had induction I'd never go back to gas. I had a lovely Wolf gas cooktop in my last home but much prefer the rather basic Electrolux induction range in my new place. It came with the dreaded electric smoothtop and I was sure I'd run the gas line and get back to cooking with gas but fortunately someone here turned me on to induction. I had compatible cookware but for the old Corning percolator I use to make hot spiced cider. Picked up an induction compatible percolator for about $12. Your daughter should at least look into it before making a final decision.

    Sandy Gordon thanked 3katz4me
  • 8 years ago

    I converted to gas during a remodel. Since I have gas in the house and access through the basement it wasn't terribly expensive. I love my Bosch dual fuel range -- mid-priced and great performance. I can't recommend Samsung appliances. I have three of them and have had nothing but problems. Check out Bosch for sure.

    Sandy Gordon thanked einportlandor
  • 8 years ago

    Gas only and forever. As a renter, I wouldn't even look at a place if it had electric. On a search for our first home we factored in running a gas line if electric was in place. It is an entirely different cooking experience being able to control a flame.

    Sandy Gordon thanked Kendrah
  • 8 years ago
    I used to have electric, and switched to gas. I have regretted it, as every day it takes me about half an hour to clean! My next stove will be induction.
    Sandy Gordon thanked grewa002
  • 8 years ago

    Cleaning can be a problem. That's one of the reasons I hate the Viking that came with the house with a passion. We upgraded to a Bluestar open burner stove and cleaning isn't even a consideration any more. A quick wipe with a damp cloth and it's done. Seasoned cast iron and open burners are a really easy combination to keep clean.

    And yes, a good gas stove runs circles around a traditional electric stove. For induction, it's a much closer call. Depends on the specific model and on what is important to you. I personally wouldn't want to give up my gas stove, but you'll hear others say the same things about their induction hobs

    Sandy Gordon thanked M
  • 8 years ago

    I will never have gas again. Induction is cleaner, much, much safer, and just as fast.

    Sandy Gordon thanked MizLizzie
  • 8 years ago

    Induction is completely different in performance from smooth top electric ceran. Except they look the same. Make sure your daughter has tried induction. It's faster, more powerful, quicker to change levels and creates much less waste heat than gas.

    For a range look at the Bosch Benchmark and 800 models.

    Sandy Gordon thanked dan1888
  • 8 years ago

    I have a Smeg 90cm gas range with an electric oven. I will always prefer gas but if I have to buy a new one it will probably induction. My country runs out of gas and the aim is that in 2050 ( or even earlier) no househould will use gas but solar or wind energy

  • 8 years ago

    2050 is a great target date. But that's also still a long way out. Hopefully, at that point, our electricity all comes from renewable sources. But until then, a lot of electricity is produced by burning fossil fuels, using that heat to power generators, and then transported to households, where electric stoves convert the energy back to heat. There are huge amounts of energy losses at each of these steps. Expect to waste on the order of 70-80% of the energy in the process.

    With the current energy mix, you are doing the environment a favor if you burn gas at home, where you can use the heat directly, instead of having to go through multiple wasteful conversions. Of course, when electricity is produced entirely from renewable sources, this situation changes.

    This assessment is also (partially) true for all other places in the house, where you need heat (e.g. furnace or hot water). But things can look a little bit better, if you use heat pumps. They have more than 100% efficiency and can move things a little more in the direction of favoring electric heat production. This unfortunately isn't an option in the kitchen. There are no heat pump powered stove tops...

    Finally, the amount of energy used for cooking is very little compared to other energy needs. So, you might be penny wise and pound foolish if you think too hard about optimizing the fuel source for your stove.

  • 8 years ago

    An induction cooktop is far more efficient than any gas cooktop (and much safer as well). The thing about electric appliances is that they get cleaner as the grid gets cleaner. Gas will always be gas and can't ever get better.

  • 8 years ago

    Good thing gas is so awesome to begin with ;)

  • 8 years ago

    The problem is that as long as the majority of electric energy is produced from fossil fuels, you are wasting a lot of energy in the intermediate steps. Conversions are really wasteful. In an ideal scenario, you might get 60% of your energy out, when you convert it from burning fossil fuels to electricity. In practice, it often isn't much better than 30% though. Similarly, getting energy to a household is wasteful.

    Until you get rid of fossil fuel electricity plants, you are much better off eliminating as many of these conversion steps as possible. That means, if you ultimately need heat, produce it locally instead of producing it remotely and then converting to electricity and back. Even if you do produce some electricity from renewal resources, your overall environmental impact is better, if you reserve that energy for users that actually need electricity directly instead of converting it back to heat. Conversions are that bad.

    The fact that your induction cooktop is clean doesn't really help, if it means the powerplant needs to burn more fossil fuel, because the energy demand goes up.

    Having said that, the amount of energy that you use for your stove is really minor in the big picture of things. And yes, in 20-30 years, our energy mix will look different. But that's still a long way out, as much as I wished it wasn't.

    Sandy Gordon thanked M
  • 8 years ago

    The choice is up to you. You can, in most places, get 100% renewable electricity. And remember induction is 80% more efficient than gas and doesn't create the amount of indoor air pollution that gas does. In the summer, less energy is used for A/C because the kitchen doesn't get as hot. And water boils faster than gas. It's a win-win over gas.

    Sandy Gordon thanked Jerry Jorgenson
  • 8 years ago

    If 80% of energy is lost to conversion, your stove needs to be 5 times (or 400%) as efficient, not just 80% more efficient in order to use the same amount of fossil fuel.

    Yes, you can opt for 100% green energy mix. But that means there is less extra green energy that could be used by others. Ramping up a gas power plant is easy; you don't really have that option with PV or wind.

    I fully agree that your sentiment is right. And everybody should care about greener energy choices. But heat production is rather counter intuitive, as conversion losses are so horribly bad.

    Sandy Gordon thanked M
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    The 80% number is not correct. Coal is more like 66% loss and natural gas is 55% loss according to eia.gov. Coal is only 39% of electrical generation (it was much higher a few decades ago).

    Sandy Gordon thanked Jerry Jorgenson
  • 8 years ago

    About all of this coal conversion stuff.......interesting, but not really applicable to the OP, who is in Canada where fossil fuels make just about 20% of electrical generation. Depending on which province, it might be as low as < 2%

    Sandy Gordon thanked Toronto Veterinarian
  • 8 years ago
    Woo hoo Canada!
    Sandy Gordon thanked User
  • 8 years ago

    Think we are going to put off buying a gas stove for awhile. The glass top electric stove she has will not be replaced for now. Thanks to everyone who reached out and contacted us.

  • 8 years ago

    Do consider induction, as they are so much better than a glass top electric stove and most people, but not all, who have gone to induction from gas don't go back to gas.


    Sandy Gordon thanked Jerry Jorgenson
  • 8 years ago

    Lifelong gas user..but not in our new Home. This forum and my research have convinced me that induction is the way to go. Please let us know what u find in your price range. Thank you (: