so and now some leaves, twigs and some rosehips

I got about 10 leaves, most were with 6+1 leaflets (the scissors are hairdresser scissors)

thorns and rose hips

do you think you can narrow it down somehow?

would be great, and she is keeping another cutting for me,

so, yes, it roots easily as do canes/ shoots that touch the ground

thanks a lot, bye, Lin

It's a Wichurana Rambler or similar type - morphology definitely indicates a memorial rose (or related species) background.

Linaria, I don't have a good suggestion for the rose, but I do recommend you post this in the Antique Rose forum. It gets much (much, much) more traffic than this one, and some of the most knowledgeable rosarians in the world frequent that forum. I realize you've already cross-posted in Name that Plant, but no one will mind!

John

EDIT: I just had a thought (ouch! lol). There's a wonderful forum member from Britain who has grown many single-flowered roses, and has seen many more in her work as a professional gardener. She has messages enabled, so if you go to her Houzz homepage you can contact her by clicking "message" in the upper right of her page: Campanula UK Z8

Thanks Embothrium,

that's like being handed a gem, now I can read up on it. Do you happen to grow it yourself?

I did a quick internet search

the species grows up to 30 feet/10 meter

hybrid parent to many climbing roses

cultivars with Wichuraiana blood as small as 5feet exist

semi evergreen, foliage healthy

so back to the owner, I will quizz her on her pruning regime and the hight or length of canes of her specimen.

and John, thanks for pointing out the other rose forum and the member Campanula,

have a nice day, bye, Lin

Hi Lin, the glossy foliage, heps and leaf size are appropriate for a wichurana...but I really can't think of a single apart from the species...or it's close relative, e.luciae. The single ramblers, Seagull and Wedding Day are both of a similar size (although the corymbs do not look dense enough....as is r.longicuspis or r.sinowilsonii. Could do with knowing it's bloom time (the wichuranas are almost as late as the moschatas), how long it keeps it's foliage (some are almost evergreen), whether their is fragrance. how flexible are the canes (along with arvensis, wichurana does throw quite long, flexible canes.).

Ask away on ARF...but expect some heated dialogue, as reaching a clear ID on some of these wilder type roses can be tricksy.

Thank you so much Campanula,

for clarifying about the double flowers, or that single is rather unusual.

some other person mentioned the possebillity that it could be some hybrid/ seedling.

so, a phonecall to the present owner is next, enquiring about

-bloom time

-fragrance

-foliage (she sent me a branch of it 2 weeks ago with some leaves still attached to it)

-lenght and quality of canes (and how often she prunes hers...)

and then it is sufficent I think,

yea, I thought that a rose ID will be tricky, with all the hybridzing and all, but still great to narrow it down to a likely candidate/parent

rainy greetings, bye, Lin