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Do I need a second coat of primer?

8 years ago



Let me start off by saying, I HATE painting! I am doing some tenov in my rec room, and would like to know if I need a second coat of primer? The first photo shows the colour I’ve painted over, and the second one shows how it looks on fresh drywall.

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  • PRO
    John Fleming thanked Lauren Jacobsen Design
  • 8 years ago

    I’ll do that. Thanks. Don’t want to have to put a second coat of primer if I don’t have to.

  • 8 years ago
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    what primer did you use?? it shouldn't look like that. did you skim coat the dry wall??

    John Fleming thanked Beth H. :
  • 8 years ago


    This was what I was told to use, from Home Depot paint department. Told them some of what I was painting was new drywall, and some was already painted.

  • 8 years ago

    I'm with Beth. The drywall looks pretty thirsty. A second coat will do wonders for the final colour. As for the painted wall surface, it depends on what type of paint you will use over top. A high-quality paint won't need it. But the lower end stuff will either need two coats of primer OR it will need two coats of paint.

    Me - I prefer two coats of primers...it's cheaper.

    John Fleming thanked SJ McCarthy
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks for all the suggestions. I’ll do a second coat all around, of primer, just to be safe.

  • 8 years ago

    Yes.

    John Fleming thanked Shredder
  • 8 years ago

    John you have to paint the wall three more times, one a second coat of primer, and then two coats of whatever wall color you chose, maybe if you paint it white you will get away with one, maybe. Next time look into tinted primer.

    John Fleming thanked smileythecat
  • 8 years ago

    You can have that primer tinted the paint color before you do the second coat.

    John Fleming thanked suzyq53
  • 8 years ago

    Yes,another coat of primer. (at least) What will be the final color?

    John Fleming thanked hollybar
  • 8 years ago

    That’s what it looks like with a secret nd coat. The right hand walk-in the first picture, and the left hand wall in the second picture, is the new drywall. The third picture is a second coat on the already painted wall. The fourth picture is the colour of the paint we are going with. It’s called smooth stone, from Glidden paint, number GSS65584.

  • 8 years ago

    Are you using texture?

  • 8 years ago

    Wasn’t planning on it...should I?

  • 8 years ago

    are you sure this primer is mixed properly? I've never seen it do such thin coverage. you may have to do another coat or return and ask for a fresh one. I have used this primer on drywall w/texture coating (a light orange peel) and have only needed one coat. Never have had to do two coats.

    Did you stir all the thick stuff that may have settled on the bottom? this primer should be on the thick side. thicker than paint. Is it?

    you don't have to apply texture. It shouldn't make a difference. texture also sucks up primer.

  • 8 years ago

    If you aren't going to skim coat it, I'd do another coat of primer. I'm not a big texture fan, but it does hide imperfections like the joints. Some people do a lighter swipe and wipe cover.

  • 8 years ago

    My post crossed with Beth's. I think you have to prime it before you do the mud and then have to paint several coats.

  • 8 years ago

    Yeah, the primer was mixed at the store, and then I stored it for a while before using it.

  • 8 years ago

    You need better wall prep is the primary problem.

  • 8 years ago
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    if you stored it before using it, all the good stuff went to the bottom. it's very thick and needs to be scraped off the bottom and mixed. either use a drill w/a paddle mixer, or take it back to the store and have them shake it. you only got the thin stuff that rose to the top. that's why it's not covering.

  • 8 years ago

    When I stored it, I did for a few minutes, and then when I poured some out, it was very thick.

  • 8 years ago

    well john, I'm baffled. I honestly don't know what's happened. I've used this multiple times and have only had to do one coat. maybe it's the drywall. Maybe you got a bad batch of paint. I'm out of suggestions. try doing another coat. if that doesn't work, try a different primer. that primer should hide the tape seam.

    John Fleming thanked Beth H. :
  • 8 years ago

    Like I said, I hate painting lol. Not too worried. I have enough left over for a third coast, and it’s about a quarter full, so it’s all the bottom stuff. Plus, I need to buy more primer to do the stairwell. Maybe I’ll go to an actual paint store, instead of Home Depot.

    Thanks to everyone who commented. I appreciate the help and suggestions.

  • 8 years ago

    and john, while you're at it, try another paint company for actual paint. Glidden is inexpensive for a reason. you need to do more coats for adequate coverage.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    First off that is not a good quality primer.

    Your issue besides the wall prep is you arent loading up your roller. You need paint on your roller to roll onto the wall. What nap roller are you using?

    Your roller should be saturated and then rolled out in the pan or screen/bucket but you need more paint its going on too dry.

    Stir your pain well. If you are going straight up and down you should be reloading every other roll. You bought he primer so use it. If thats a gallon you should easily use the entire gallon on a small room.

    Paint/primer are nonsense there are NO one coat paints that deliver a quality job. Actually they are usually so thick it makes it harder to apply a smooth roll free finish.

  • 8 years ago

    I’m loading the roller thick, with paint, and it’s thick on the walls while I’m doing it. I don’t think I’m doing large areas at a time, but I could be wrong. The rollers I’m using are purdy white dove 240 mm 3/8 inch nap 3 pack roller covers.

    when I went to Home Depot, I explained everything to the person in paint, and showed him pictures of the area I’m painting, with the color of paint that I was painting over. He suggested that primer and those rollers.

  • 8 years ago

    Purdy brand, I think you got the right stuff, I don't know what to say, keep practicing, you may like painting after all maybe.

  • 8 years ago
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    Lots of paint companies make paint/primer combinations; Behr isn't your only choice. I prefer Valspar, myself.

    At Home Depot, the "person in paint" used to be the person in plumbing and the person in loading dock. You're not dealing with an expert there--I never have.

  • 8 years ago

    I think that there is a specific sheet rock primer that seals the taping, mud and paper of the sheet rock....use that first and then move on to paint. You will need to seal the wall to protect it.

  • 8 years ago
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    John, I think I know what happened. your drywall is backwards. I was going to mention it when I first saw it, but I thought, 'Nah,,,couldn't be. he has to know the front from back! that's why it keeps sucking up the paint. the front of the drywall will have a coating over the paper that keeps absorption to a minimum,.

    The brown paper that is showing? thats supposed to be on the inside. you're going to have to remove it and redo it. White goes out. Or, you can skim coat the entire walls w/the joint compound and sand smooth/flat.

    If this is what your front looks like, it's the backside (the brown part he's cutting. see the white that's already up? that's what faces out)

    this is what your finished drywall should look like before primer:

    notice all the screw holes are in straight lines.


  • 8 years ago

    Beth I think you could be right, he should still be able to paint the wrong side shouldn't he?

  • 8 years ago

    no, the back isn't protected like the front and will keep absorbing. he would have to skim coat the entire surface.

  • 8 years ago

    Ouch!

  • 8 years ago
    The drywall was installed the correct way. A friend had stopped by, that has done a lot of renovations, and said it should be ok to paint, if I’ve already done two coats of primer. I’ll try one wall, and see how it looks.

    *Sorry for the late response, as I’ve been out of town*
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    john, in that one picture i see the brown paper showing. are you sure it's installed correctly?

    Why is this brown? and what are all those splotches of white? Is that where you did the fasteners?

    back is brown,,,no brown on the front side

    front side

  • 8 years ago
    Lol that’s the colour of the previous paint. The line along the bottom was what was under the baseboards, which was a green colour. The reason that spot wasn’t primed, was because when I removed the baseboard, there was some holes that I had patched, and the mud was still wet, so I left that bare.
  • 8 years ago

    lol. ok then. looked suspicious. hah.

  • 8 years ago
    We just got a bad can of primer from Home Depot. Took it to the local ACE and they told us it seemed like it had been frozen and then thawed. It was absolutely miserable, bubbling off the wall when we applied the next coat, and not providing coverage like you’re showing. We got a new can and it’s like night and day.
    I promise it’s worth it- just eat the $30 and go get a new one and do another coat before you spend tons on paint trying to cover up the bad primer.
  • 8 years ago
    Why I’m going to do, is just paint a small patch, and see what it looks like. If it looks horrible, I’m going to return the primer.
  • 8 years ago
    Try a thicker roller sleeve
  • 8 years ago
    First coat seemed to go on ok.
  • 8 years ago

    john,,that tape seam is really visible. run you hand along it. is it smooth/flat, or does it concave a little? might be worth skimming that again and sanding it smooth.

  • 8 years ago

    following

  • 8 years ago
    Sorry for the late reply, but I’ve been working a lot of overtime. This is my progress so far. The walls turned out pretty good.

    To answer you, Beth, yes, the strip on the wall was from me, as I’ve never done mudding before. I’m not too bothered from it. There used to be a cubby hole there, for a tv, so I just left the frame there, and drywalled over it.

    Before anyone asks, the big hole under the outlet, is from where I had the old internet cables coming into the basement. Just switched providers, so I was able to completely remove it, and will patch when finished flooring.
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