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better as a tree rose

8 years ago

I am thinking of getting a tree rose. I've never done that before. It would overwinter in my garage. I was thinking of getting Sunsprite as a regular, but it's such a short floribunda that I nixed it. But maybe it would be great as a tree rose. These are two that the greenhouse I visit has

  1. Sunsprite

  2. Violet's Pride

What are your thoughts? I guess I'm just looking for a ton of flowers.

Carol

Comments (27)

  • 8 years ago

    Sunsprite is considered one of, if not the most disease resistant yellow roses and it has a good scent. It fades rather quickly and really should have had another few rows of petals so the flowers lasted longer, but it does recycle pretty quickly. For a standard, it's probably a decent bet. You don't want a huge, tall head on a standard, but a rounded, full head, which it should produce. I haven't grown Violet's Pride, so I can't comment on that one.

  • 8 years ago

    Yes, that's what I thought...a rounded shape. They don't have a cascading variety...which would have been lovely!!

    This is what they have for standard roses:

    1. Ebb Tide

    2. Cutie Pie

    3. Rainbow's End

    4. Ketchup & Mustard

    5. Pumpkin Patch

    6. Scentimental

    7. Showbiz

    8. Violet's Pride

    9. White Licorice

    10. Easy Going/Living Easy

    11. Julia Child and Ebb Tide.

    Any thoughts on which I should shortlist??

    Cutie Pie might be really cute!

    Carol

  • 8 years ago

    Actually just ignore this thread. LOL I've decided not to get a tree rose. :)

    Thanks, anyway.

    Carol

  • 8 years ago

    That Is a gorgeous Julia Child it's very pretty in tree form isn't it

  • 8 years ago

    Holy Hannah Helen!!!! :) That looks like something out of Dr. Seuss...something impossible!! Okay....now, the only tree rose they have with Julia Child is Julia Child combined with Ebb Tide. Do you think that would be nice?

    Carol



  • 8 years ago

    Carol, if I didn't live at the top of a hill with everything on a slope, I would have a couple of Julia tree roses, or the Ebb Tide/Julia combo. Julia grows in a wonderful roundish shape on her own, and would be a natural, as Helen's gorgeous photo shows, as a tree rose. As it, I have Julia "trees" anyway. They just aren't on a "stem". Diane

  • 8 years ago

    I was surprised that roseseek (above) stated Sunsprite is considered one of, if not the most, disease resistant yellow roses.

    https://www.kordes-rosen.com/plant-o-fix/beetrosen/friesia

    Does Kordes currently offer for sale any rose with lower blackspot and mildew resistance ratings (assigned by Kordes)?

    rosecanadian thanked rifis (zone 6b-7a NJ)
  • 8 years ago

    Diane - yes, our previous home was on a slope, and my husband was carving out paths (with a pick-axe!!) and digging huge holes for my roses. It was a lot of work, because he had to keep cutting down all the weeds on the parts he hadn't got to yet. It would have taken years more to finish, because he was working so hard at the office. So yes, I know how hard things are with a slope. And yet, you grow such gorgeous roses!!!

    Okay, I'm getting the Julia/Ebb Tide rose!! Thank you so much, Helen for the picture!!! It really changed my mind!

    Carol

  • 8 years ago

    Rifis, I've not grown any of the later Kordes offerings. Sunsprite has been considered by the ARS (and in my experience over MANY years of selling roses commercially, growing them myself and installing them for clients) as one of the most disease resistant of yellow roses in the US for quite a few years. There MAY be more disease resistant ones now, but Sunsprite has a very long, proven track record.

    rosecanadian thanked roseseek
  • 8 years ago

    Oh, now I want a Sunsprite tree rose!! Too many rose decisions, and I can't make up my mind!!! Arggh!! :)

    Carol

  • 8 years ago

    Carol, did you actually grow roses in those painfully dug holes your husband worked on? Wasn't it too cold? Tell us about it. As an ancient person, I still dig every rose hole and shrub hole. Remember me digging out PAoK? The two day process? I never want to repeat that again. Diane

    From this,


    To this.

    The remains of the Princess's stump.

    How cruel I am.

  • 8 years ago

    Not "cruel" at all. Supplying a plant which isn't suited to where you garden; putting yourself through the wringer trying to make something happy which simply isn't going to BE happy and make YOU happy, is cruel...to you! It is honestly possible to significantly reduce disease and performance problems in your garden, sometimes to the point of nearly eliminating them, and all it takes is "iron"...a SHOVEL.

  • 8 years ago

    Good golly Diane! Is that grafted to Dr. Huey? You must have some big muscles! Lisa

  • 8 years ago

    Oh Diane - it was so beautiful!!! But we all have our reasons why we shovel prune. That looks like it was a ton of work! Go Diane!!! Yes, I grew roses there...some were hardy roses, others were Austins and others were hybrid teas. I didn't care about fragrance then, because the roses never grew to great proportions. Now that all of my roses are at nose level, I love to smell them.

    Carol

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks, Kim and Lisa. I do feel bad about PAoK's removal. She performed too well--what a thug (she was huge), and her neighbor, Munstead Wood, was afraid to send out canes in PAoK's direction. So I had a rose that was flat on one side. The other problem with PAoK was that when the weather turned hot, she turned a "rancid bright coral"--ha. It was bad enough that the blooms shrunk and had fewer petals, but that color--oh, my. Diane

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks, too, Carol. Diane

    rosecanadian thanked nanadollZ7 SWIdaho
  • 8 years ago

    Rsoecanadian, you've got to post pics of that Julia Child/Ebb Tide rose tree. So I can seethe with jealously lol. I bet it will be stunning!

  • 8 years ago
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    ac91z6 - Oh you know I will! Do I think it will look anywhere as nice as Helen's??? Not a chance! LOL

    Carol

  • 8 years ago

    Carol, I think yours will also look as gorgeous or better because Julia Child is a rose that is just perfect in any form whether it is a bush or tree. Helen

  • 8 years ago

    Thanks, Helen. :) I'm really looking forward to trying it!! Unless I go for the Sunsprite/Ebb Tide one. Argh!!! Decide Carol!! :)

    Carol

  • 8 years ago

    Another vote for Ebb Tide from me. This is a short bush that will definitely do well as a standard tree rose. The flowers will be at nose level perfect for you to sniff. They smell fantastic when warmed by the morning sun.

  • 8 years ago

    My sister has the Julia Child standard oh my gosh that is why I decided to plant so many julia child's in my own yard . it is always in Bloom and it is perfectly behaved on its standard tree stock

  • 8 years ago

    Carol don't you think that you need both of them?

  • 8 years ago

    Kristine - both of them?? LOL!! I've got to see if I can get one to stay alive over winter in my garage. :) I think I'm leaning toward Julia Child. I think 2 roses on one bush may look too weird???

    Fragrancenutter - There is a definite plus side to Ebb Tide/Sunsprite combo...the smell would be wonderful. This is hard to decide!!

    Carol

  • 8 years ago

    The way that my sister over winters hers is she wraps it like she does for pipes to keep them from freezing.

    rosecanadian thanked Kristine LeGault 8a pnw
  • 8 years ago

    That sounds like a good way to do it. :)

    Carol