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Rosa Kathleen Harrop

8 years ago

I just bought this climbing rose. Can anyone tell me more about it? Does she smell nice? Fragrant strength? Good repeat flowering? She looks BEAUTUFUL! I’m going to grow this stunner in full sun.


Thanks.

Comments (19)

  • 8 years ago

    She is the lighter pink sport of Zephirine Drouhin and very much like her, chronic mildew and all.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Darren, I no longer grow it, as I lost it to RRV, but in Spring it's incomparable, both the bloom and the scent (very strong old rose +++). Here, it did suffer mildly from mildew, but once she matured not nearly as bad as ZD; and a once or twice preventive spray when it fully leafed out, but before the onset of mildew, seemed to keep it under control. Summer water will help, as well. KH also didn't blackspot as badly as ZD. Your conditions will be totally different than mine, though, so you need info from someone close to you. Even in the British Isles conditions vary widely, therefore so does disease pressure from place to place. It's possible she will be a dog for you in the long run, but if you have room, do grow her.

    As far as repeat, for me, KH had a very heavy Spring flush, and only an occasional flower later in the season, nothing I would call a flush. She is also slightly less vigorous than ZD, but not by much. I think it might just take longer for her to get established. She's far from a weak grower. I grew her in morning sun, afternoon shade. Again, I have very cold winters and blazing HOT, tropically HUMID summers. She may behave totally different for you.

    In my opinion her color is MUCH easier to work into the garden than ZD. Zephy can be rather...strident, though impressive and lovely when she's not clashing with another rose, lol.

    John

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I’m fond of my KH. I think I planted mine in 2014. She hasn’t gotten as big as ZD, but I’m glad for that, she’s stayed a good size. And she’s fragrant. Has a great spring flush with scattered bloom during the rest of the season.

    A close-up

    Darren Harwood thanked Sara-Ann Z6B OK
  • 8 years ago

    Such beautiful pics! Mine will get more than 9 hours of full sun a day- I’m hoping that’ll help its health? I don’t mind spraying - something I’ve never done before though. I hope she’s happy in her new home haha. Love the shell pink colour - stunning!

    thanks. Love to see more pics if anyone has any??

    xx

  • 8 years ago

    Johnny Bass's favourite rose - so he keeps telling us... JB is the current head gardener at Mottisfont.. he's quite young..

    I often fancy a hedge of 'ZD'..'KH' and another sister called 'Martha'... I think they would look good together...

    My 'ZD' isn't as troublesome as I expected it to be, and it's never sprayed..

    Sara-Ann, your rose looks beautiful, and so healthy, maybe due to the dryish climate?... I always enjoy seeing a photo of this rose from you as you seem to grow it better than most..

  • 8 years ago

    ZD is by no means unhealthy in all climates,Darren, and I assume that KH will be the same. Give it full sun and good air circulation,and if possible, good irrigation. But I have ZD and all of my garden has to get by solely on rainfall (my garden is very, very big and I have no running water),and said rainfall here in Tuscany, Italy tends to come only in fall and winter. Yet I would not single ZD out as a disease magnet, by any means.

  • 8 years ago

    I’m unfamiliar with this rose, but what beautiful pink blooms! Your pictures are gorgeous, Sara-Ann! You say she’s “ a good size.” What do you mean exactly by “a good size”?

    She’s going to look great in your garden, Darren. I love pink roses! Lisa

  • 8 years ago

    Thank you everyone! Lisa, she’s about 6 ft. Tall by 4 ft. Wide, my ZD is about twice that size. Last spring KH was one of the first roses to be in full bloom and she’s in a spot where she’s very noticeable and it was a joy to see her while I was anticipating the spring flush to begin.

  • 8 years ago

    I agree those photos are amazing ! Will you have us over to see in person sara Ann? I'll bring a homemade cake . :)

  • 8 years ago

    Well she arrived in the mail today and now she’s in her new home! Your messages and pictures have been most greatly appreciated and enjoyed! Thank you, very much. I’ll post pics in the summer. XO

  • 8 years ago

    I have to admit I like this color better than ZD's. However, it would be difficult for me to grow a rose that doesn't bloom well through several seasons. It's a long rose year in southern California

  • 8 years ago

    Will I get blooms in its first year, does anyone know? X

  • 8 years ago

    I would be very surprised if you didn't get blooms the first year. I would expect to see some from mid May till August.. Although if it's like 'ZD' it will take about 3 years to get into a rhythm, that rose blooms all season now into December, it didn't for the first 2 years, but I'm not sure if 'KH' follows the same pattern.

  • 4 years ago

    Where can I buy this rose? I am in the bay area area, California. I looked up online everywhere in the US but didnt find. I’m in love with this rose and would appreciate if someone can share a lead to buy this beauty. Thank you!

  • 4 years ago

    Check with Hummingbird Rose Nursery

  • 4 years ago

    Rogue Valley Roses has Kathleen Harrop.

  • 4 years ago

    Does this rose loose foliage in winter zone 10a?

  • 4 years ago

    It does here.