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Tile shower issues

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

To keep it short, we are in the process of building a spec home with a company in South Carolina. This is my first home. I am a novice when it comes to home construction and I am looking for opinions and/or advice on the quality of the subcontractor’s tile work in my showers. See photos (click on photos for actual image)

Guest bath tile around tub
Guest bath tile around tub
Shower corner
Closer view of bench corner
Anterior wall of bench
Top of bench
front to back view of bench
birds eye view of bench corner

Comments (22)

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Is this right here green board drywall? If so, you need to say no more about the "tile guy"...............

    tlee9828 thanked millworkman
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I think that is green tape on the shower pan?

    tlee9828 thanked chispa
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Yea I believe it’s green tape millworkman. I’ll stop by tonight and check

  • 8 years ago

    I told the builder that I was unhappy with the job weeks ago. They basically keep saying “we’ll take a look at it, don’t worry we will make it right.” The pictures I posted are the second attempt at “fixing them”. I keep complaining and now I am being told “you should have chosen white grout and these subtleties wouldn’t be as noticeable.” While their statement is correct, it doesn’t change the fact that the “tile guy” does his job poorly. Are my thoughts justified by what you guys see?

  • 8 years ago

    Pretty poor workmanship. Layout should have been planned better. Thin strips of tiles at the top of the bench and the shower corners aren't wrapped. Corners should look like the tile is continuous, if the tile ends with 1/3 of a tile in the corner, there should be 2/3 of a tile on the adjacent wall. Hope that makes sense. Bench corner is terrible too.

    tlee9828 thanked ccpark0
  • 8 years ago

    the trend toward darker grout means that the tile person has to be exacting. If they know you are using darker grout, they have to use the right guys. If they don't have the right guys, you'll get what you get.

    I've seen worse.

    If the substrate to which it is attached is correct - a true cement board and good sealing to the pan, etc - I'd worry less about this and when you take in the view of the bath, in total, when it's complete, this will be less of an issue. the larger views that you show are not that bad - some odd spacing and cuts - but again - in total - I don't think it will scream 'bathroom fail" when it's all done.

    tlee9828 thanked just_janni
  • 8 years ago

    I want to know what they used for waterproofing.

    tlee9828 thanked cpartist
  • 8 years ago

    Cpartist I will look into it tomorrow and let you know.

  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    How is the shower curtain going to work? It looks like the tile bench extends out past the shower pan.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    You're building a "spec home" which indicates to me it will be for sale... or is someone reproducing a spec home for you to live in? Is there a licensed contractor involved? Licensed tile contractor?

  • 8 years ago

    Mark—we chose a frameless glass door/pane. No curtains.

    Jeffrey—this is our first home and we will be living in it. There is a licensed contractor running the operation that we communicate with periodically. I am unaware of the specific person installing the tile.

  • 8 years ago

    tlee - the word spec means built on speculation. Built to put on the market for sale. So you are not building a spec house

    Jeff - What state licenses tile contractors? I would doubt that SC does.


    Probably not acceptable to me based on price point. I have heard that good tile people are hard to find and have gotten crazy expensive here in NC. Our house will have shockingly little tile.

    tlee9828 thanked David Cary
  • 8 years ago

    Average and typical builder grade. Beyond the price incentive of a more expensive project to do better work, this is what is found in thousands of builds. If the green is Hydroban, then there is not a lot any low cost builder is going to do. You’re not doing custom. C level costs don’t get A level work.

    tlee9828 thanked User
  • 8 years ago

    David- as stated I’m not anywhere near an expert, but thanks for the correction in vocabulary. Thank you all for the replies. Sophie- I wouldn’t call $218/sq foot in a $124 average/ sq ft community C-level costs but that’s just my opinion.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    That’s average new home costs. Not used home costs. You can’t compare new construction against older homes. The new car smell always comes at a premium.

    tlee9828 thanked User
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Fair point; but I kindly disagree with you when it comes to the quality. No one should be told to expect C-level results when building a new home.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    OK, back to the tile. Is the home being built on property you own or is it a home you will purchase at completion (purchasing a spec)? If you already own the property, the builder is working for you. Send the builder an email. "I'm concerned about the workmanship of the tile job in the shower. The joints are uneven, the tile does not line up.... etc. Please rectify." You have options to bring in an expert (another tile contractor or ceramic tile association/institute) to give you an opinion or take your photos to a tile store. I don't see a tile pro opinion. The opinion doesn't have to be in writing yet, but you will at least know the issues. If you are purchasing the home at completion, you may have other options, such as rejecting the deal if it doesn't meet industry standards. Read your contracts.

    tlee9828 thanked Jeffrey R. Grenz, General Contractor
  • 8 years ago

    Thank you Jeffrey. I do not own the property and I will be purchasing the home at completion—I.e., purchasing a spec. Great advice on the contract—I read over my contract a few weeks ago and I can back out with the (likely) consequence of losing an earnest deposit of $5000. Hopefully, it doesn’t reach that point!

  • 8 years ago

    This is a tile grout combination that shows every flaw. And the installer didn’t care (as evidenced by the rookie mistake of having slivers of tiles where the wall meets the bench).

    It looks unattractive. I’ve seen a lot of tile jobs like that so it seems that sloppy tile work is often accepted, which may make it difficult to get this fixed.

    If this was my future house and the builder won’t cooperate, I’d redo the whole tile job myself after closing because getting a good tile job seems to be a matter of luck.

    tlee9828 thanked galore2112
  • 8 years ago

    Thanks Galore. My wife and I talked about doing that. If it isn’t up to “par” by closing we were going to try to negotiate a price reduction in return for us redoing it ourselves.

  • 8 years ago

    Sooner you get that grout ALL out of those joints the better. Grout takes about 30 days to fully harden 100% if I am not mistaken.

    tlee9828 thanked millworkman
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