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Should we paint or stain our mahogany front door?????

8 years ago

We are putting in a new entry door and can't decide if we should stain or paint it.


Here are some photos of the house. All of the windows and garage doors are black. Trim is limestone. Brick is a whitish/creamy color.



We're thinking the door should be black, and therefore leaning towards painting it. It would look something like this. If we paint, what should we keep in mind? What kind of paint? (It would be an exterior paint, but what kind of finish?)



Problem is there is a lot of sun exposure. We may build a portico, but it would be much later. We are being told a stain is more durable and easier to refinish.


So should we stain the door instead? If so, what stain color? Ebony just doesn't look black enough. Can still see the red from the mahogany. Maybe we should consider a lighter stain. Something like this.




So what should we do?

Paint Black

Stain Ebony

Lighter Stain

Or Other Ideas???


Comments (39)

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I love the wood door with the lighter stain


  • 8 years ago

    Thanks Beverly! You think the lighter stain would work with our house? It does look great in that other photo.

    I would also need to consider the interior.

    Here is what our floors look like. Maybe try to match to the lighter part of the floors?These are oak though, so will look different on mahogany regardless.

    And here is an interior view of the foyer. I was thinking the black would make a nice impact (color on walls will be revere pewter).

  • 8 years ago
    stain..... can always change your mind and then paint over the stain . 3x the work if you change your mind after painting it first
  • PRO
    8 years ago
    Your home front needs some dimension for sure. The dark stain would help achieve that. Two coats of ebony would work and as stated, you can paint later. If you had a portico I would much rather have a black glossy finish on that door. I think some awning would be great addition and not too expensive for short term solution. Something
    Iike this would be very nice with black door. It would also give protection from rain as well.
  • PRO
    8 years ago
    Some large black pots for porch overflowing with colorful plants.
  • 8 years ago

    Very simple. If you want a cheap modern look, paint it. If you want a classy expensive look, stain it.

  • 8 years ago
    Thanks everyone. Sounds like staining is the way to go.

    Thoughts on light stain vs Ebony?
  • 8 years ago
    Flo, love that image of the black pots with flowers. We still need to add landscaping and finish the driveway. I will be keeping this idea in mind. Thank you!
  • 8 years ago
    Should we go with an ebony or lighter stain? Who else has thoughts on this?
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I vote for a lighter stain. The front door is your focal point so I wouldn't stain it the same black as the rest of the trim/windows and garage door.

    Also, a mahogany door is special...don't paint it. Go with the lighter stain or the Danish oil as shown by Decor and Sign, that is stunning.

    Jane Prizer thanked Denita
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I never understood this garbage modern trend to pay for expensive wood floors and then cover it up with a dark stain. Makes completely no sense. You wanna show off real wood. Go light.

    @decor and sign, damn thats nice!

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Lighter stain. It will add a little color to the front facade and it doesn't absorb as much heat, which makes the wood crack over time.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I have an alternative suggestion. To give the home an integrated exterior look, the most color you would want on that door is a walnut shade of stain. Yellow/reds will give the impression you haven't put the final coat on. I realize mahogany is a great wood and had I advised you early on, I wouldn't have chosen a mahogany door for your front door, especially with your exposure, but now that you have it, you can have an outstanding look with a darker stain. Use a Semi-translucent stain and the wood will come through without looking too orange/yellow. Not saying cover up the wood, and the translucent stains allow grain to show and beauty of wood to come through. I would probably mix up a couple of mixed stains and test on some sample mahogany wood to see which looks best with the black trim. Write down the "formula" for each custom mix so you know how to reproduce. So for example, one part Ebony and two parts Walnut translucent stain. I have red oak wood floors, but I used an Ebony stain to bring out the darker grains. They are beautiful.

    Jane Prizer thanked Flo Mangan
  • 8 years ago
    Flo, here are some reference stain colors I had in mind. Is this what you are thinking?
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Love the first one. Perfect. (Interesting black pots in that photo too!)

  • 8 years ago
    Yes those black pots must be a sign! Thank you!
  • 8 years ago

    Love light wood stain for door and think black planters would go well w/it

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    You are welcome. You will love it.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I vote for the lighter stain of your photo too! Looks beautiful! (Decor and Sign--I hadn't heard of Danish oil but it looks great). I think the lighter stain will give you some contrast with the rest of the house. You have a great color combination of the black and limestone, let the door stand out from that. Also I don't think you need to worry about the door matching the interior floors, mixing wood tones is fine. Again, a contrast will be nice.

  • 8 years ago

    I also like the light wood stain. It's a lovely contrast to the black. I'd be interested in seeing how the garage door would look with the same wood stain.

  • 8 years ago
    Mahogany has a natural reddish brown tone to it. You won't be able to get a lighter color unless you bleach it. Will the door not have a factory finish on it?
  • 8 years ago

    Whatever else you do, please paint your downspouts the color of the house. They are NOT a design feature and should be made to disappear.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Stain and oil. Do not varnish. A dark stain and full sun exposure will make a varnished door a cause for frequent maintenance. Oiling wood have to be done almost yearly too, but oiling is only minimal maintenance. Also, mahogany is one of those woods that is inherently rot resistant.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    We just finished this door with Fine Paints of Europe brilliant

  • 8 years ago

    @MS colours, What finish is it? How did you apply it? How much is it per pint/gallon?

  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Fine Paints of Europehollandlac brilliant hand brushed. Paint is available on line.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Love "Fine Paints of Europe" Great finished looks.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    One caveat - these paints require using high-end application tools and techniques to get the perfect finish. Getting a qualified painter to do this is very important if you aren't familiar with doing this type finish and the prep, tools and care needed for a perfectly smooth surface. They have a website with lots of good information.

    Jane Prizer thanked Flo Mangan
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    @flo, what the heck are you talking about "high end application tools"? He just said it was hand brushed. What did they use a magic brush? Maybe a real good brush. It's obviously oil based like polyurethane or has a self leveling additive chemical in it to turn out like that using a brush. You only need a .50 cent chip brush to put on oil based and get a smooth finish. The paint is also expensive as hell. You can buy good paint and put that self leveling additive in it.

  • 8 years ago

    FPE is unlike any paint you've EVER used. It ain't cheap. It's built different. No "leveling additives"....it ain't that simple. Depends on the paint series, but around $100 for a Eurogallon.

    I've used it too. You haven't painted a damn thing until you've used this stuff. I'm dead serious.

    Faron

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Tony we use FPE on a regular basis and find the quality of the finish we get exceptional.

  • 8 years ago

    I painted "Brown Cafe" in my downstairs bathroom. Used FPE Eurolux Matte. Had a qt shipped to me.....about $45 I think???? DAMN that stuff is good! Goes on like CREAM.

    Faron


  • 8 years ago

    Nice home. Like the natural wood look for the front door. Unless you've settled on black ...

    Since I'm biased in favor of porches, have you considered adding a 3' overhang above and attached to the garage that extends beyond the garage and also creates a front porch, creating a covered walk from the front of the garage to the front door?

    Have you considered painting the garage door the same color as the exterior of the home?


  • 8 years ago

    Tony, nothing matches FPoE That paint is spectacular . and no, no chip brush will do it for this paint. It's not a beginner paint. (meaning, painting a door with it your first time is prob not the best idea to brush)

    The Hollandlac Brilliant is oil base and has the best pigments of any paint. They are also the only company to guarantee their white will not yellow. The have a hybrid line called Eco. Goes on like oil, cleans up w/water. I've used that a few times and the finish is equally beautiful.

    Jane, if you are buying a mahogany door, then just do a natural spar varnish/UV protectant finish. you must get the UV varnish or oil. and yes, it will need to be done yearly if it gets full sun. Door companies will not honor warranties on wood doors unless there is a certain measure of overhead protection.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    If you are doing a clear Fine Paints of Europe Yacht varnish is a great product

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  • 6 years ago

    @MS Colours What brand and color stain is this in the last picture?

  • 6 years ago

    Karina, they prob don't know because he was talking about the varnish.

    But it looks like Black Cherry or a dark mahogany.


    you also have to consider what kind of wood the stain is going on. it will affect the final look.

    If you have a dark mahogany wood, which is already red, I'd prob do a dark walnut. you don't really want to add more red to the mix.

    If it's Doug Fir or oak, black cherry, rosewood or brown mahogany would be a close pick.



  • 6 years ago

    Thank you!

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