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How do I turn these oak floors into gray or espresso (Help!)

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

The townhouse I just bought has three floors. 1st floor has oak (engineered?) wood below



The second and third floor has darker wood floors





I want to stain them into a gray or espresso color or a combination of the espresso/gray. I would also paint the walls white. I'm just not a fan of the red in the floors. I like darker colors and dark gray floors kind of like the below tones. Help - any suggestions??




Comments (41)

  • 8 years ago

    I think you would need to see if the engineered hardwood has enough wood left on it to sand and refinish. Are you doing this yourself? Here are some links that might help you.


    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/refinishing-engineered-hardwood-floors-dsvw-vd~4786094?n=2

    https://www.houzz.com/discussions/refinishing-engineered-hardwoods-dsvw-vd~3654537?n=8


  • 8 years ago

    Yes, It still has some life to it and enough wood to be resurfaced.

  • 8 years ago

    Well, then I believe you sand, stain and seal them.

  • 8 years ago

    bump

  • 8 years ago

    Grey floors are a dying trend. I would probably not spend that much money to refinish the floors in a way that already on its way out. Dark floors look nice, but they can be hard to live with. They show everything and scratches are pretty noticeable. Have you lived with dark wood floors before.

  • 8 years ago

    Yes, I have lived with dark floors. Are you suggesting to keep it another color?

  • 8 years ago
    I like the floors upstairs. The trim color is a bit dull and you could certainly paint the spindles on the stairs for a more updated look. Dark floors are horrific to keep clean and gray floors are already dated. Get all the floors to one color, preferably a medium tone and then paint.
  • 8 years ago

    How would you paint the spindles and railing?

  • 8 years ago

    HI -- Do all your painting first before you decide on the flooring . Wall color will make the floors look different . Go to a flooring shop and find out about what is being done now about wood colors . The really dark floors are a pain . I think when you stay with a more natural wood then that will stand the test of time .

  • PRO
    8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    You will not get the red out without a lot of work. Cheaper and faster to rip if you can't stand them, unless a solid wood, and then they may need to be water popped.. Leave the others alone. Or Rip those too.

    Five years or less up the road, you will regret the gray.............just saying. Done, Done and overdone. There are wood tones without the red, that will stand the much longer test of time.

  • 8 years ago

    I would paint the spindles, I don’t know that you have to restain the railing. I did but its a lot of work. I went with a dark mahogany look with a tinge of ebony - mainly because i have solid mahgany doors in the same color. I think if you went with a lighter color on the trim with the dark doors you could have a very modern and vibrant look with out all the headaches IMO. I had a super traditional house and I wanted to go more fresh and modern. The original staircase was 1970’s oak stain. There are also modern spindles you can change out from Ebay that would make the stairs modern. I’ll find them and post. I looked at putting them in and my designer said NO.

  • 8 years ago

    Here you go! I actually ordered the spindles and they are nice. If you have round holes you drill them out put liquid nails in the holes and the have covers for the spindles.

    S Patel thanked gtcircus
  • 8 years ago

    Jan - what wood stains would stand the much longer test of time.

    Also, what are your thoughts on putting float vinyl planking (wood) on top of my hard wood floors as they are to get the color I want? vs. going through the staining efforts to get the right color.

  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I really like this floor color and wall combination. Not very dark.

    So instead of going much much darker as everyone suggesting not to is there a easy way to darken what's already there a shade. With white walls, I think the red will show through more.

  • 8 years ago
    If you google how to stain a bannister darker, you will get many articles out there on various ways to do it. Most involve gel stain and a lot of hand work. I had mine professionally stripped and stained which involved tenting the room and lots of horrific fumes.
  • 8 years ago
    Jan I don’t disagree with you about the red, but I had to work around existing flooring and then bring 1970’s oak stairs into something that would match. If I had to start from scratch and had the option of installing new flooring, I would go with a medium rich brown without the red and get flooring that was unified - if the budget allows. I think some of the flooring choices posted meet that criteria.
  • 8 years ago

    You will not be able to stain to match that gray LVT sample. That's a man made product. I would also not suggest staining the dark espresso, what a nightmare to keep looking good. If you are not sure if the floors are engineered how do you know that they are able to be sanded & refinished?

  • 8 years ago

    Mark - it is engineered. I have confirmation from agent.

  • 8 years ago

    I'm really liking this color - https://www.provenzafloors.com/WaterproofLVP.aspx?id=2112&gallery=true&collection=Uptown%20Chic

    Which I'm sure I can't get my floors to match. Would putting a floating vinyl plank floor on top of my wood be a bad idea? how does that compare to staining refinishing my wood floors in terms of cost?

  • 8 years ago

    I'm also liking this:

    https://www.provenzafloors.com/WaterproofLVP.aspx?id=2107&gallery=true&collection=Uptown%20Chic

    It's a bummer if I'm stuck to the colors or range of colors due to my existing floors.

  • 8 years ago

    Most engineered wood can not be refinished. Do you have extra planks laying around that you can inspect?

  • 8 years ago

    You need to just STOP. You are buying into every 5 minute no longevity fad on the planet. You have some classic choices already that should be built upon. Not discarded.

  • 8 years ago

    What do you recommend the, Sophie?

  • 8 years ago

    Hire a designer who does classic looks, and work with what you have.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    You can't "go over" the floor with anything. You can rip it. But I would stay far from any gray floor.

    Its a fad sailing into the sunset.Get a sand on site wood floor in white oak , in. 3 1/4 boards and stain to a deep nutty whatever brown. It will outlive you.


  • 8 years ago

    Thought I'd update all on my progress.

    Floors and banister stained (dark brown/ebony/gray), pony wall removed, tiles removed.

    Any recommendations?
    This is what's planned:

    • Paint walls gray (thinking silver bullet)
    • Refaced: White upper cabinets doors, Bottom gray cabinets from Semihandmade
    • Kitchen tile: no clue yet - Any recs?
    • Lowering the bar at kitchen to counter level
    • New white quartz countertop - Any recs?
    • Powder room: patterned tiles - not sure which yet

    Don't mind the dirt on the floors. Before anyone says anything, I know it shows dirt easily.

  • 8 years ago

    Love your progress! I like dark floors so no comments from me. LOL

    I happen to love light gray walls too but you want to be sure it doesn't conflict with the gray cabinets you are doing... Make sure you love the look. That both colors work together.

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  • 8 years ago

    Update on renovations. Still haven't decided on a tile for the kitchen floor, powder room or laundry room.


    standing right inside of the front door to the townhouse


  • 8 years ago

    FWIW, I think it looks lovely, and who cares if it's not "trendy" anymore? Gray is my favorite color and has been for years. I don't care if it's "in" or not, I can't wait to get gray wood floors put in in the fall (once we've finished all the other renovations we're doing).

    I can't imagine not doing something I've wanted for years just because some people who care about "trends" tell me it's "out." I don't care about being trendy or "in." I know what I like, and that's what I want. (It *is* irritating, though, to have a color scheme in mind for years and when you finally have the chance to use it, it's the "hot new color scheme" that's everywhere! Sigh.) I'm not inviting home magazines in to take pictures, and I'm not selling for at least ten years or so, so the only person whose tastes I care about is me.

    Best of luck to you, and keep making your home what *you* want it to be!

  • 8 years ago
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    Actually, fwiw, vinyl plank flooring can be installed over existing flooring, per manufacturer instructions. Its very thick.

  • 8 years ago

    In a huge dilemma.. I got the waterfall quartz countertop. I picked out white marble like flooring 12x24. Now I'm thinking it will be way toooo much white going on. I would have gone with semihandmade gray lower cabinets and ultra white upper cabinets. Any recommendations now that the countertop is in?


  • 8 years ago

    Great progress.

    I like your counters, the waterfall is beautiful. I am a little confused... Are you keeping the red toned wood cabinets or are those being painted?

    You wrote : I would have gone with semihandmade gray lower cabinets and ultra white upper cabinets. Any recommendations now that the countertop is in?

    Would or Could? Are you changing the cabs to gray or white? Either way it will not be too much white. Used texture for your back splash in shades of white but before we do that.... Do you have a picture or sample of your floor? You said a marble like flooring. Is it cool or warm?

    Before I go on I just want to know are the cabinets staying as is? Here are some pictures that are similar to yours if the cabs are staying as is that go with marble like whites...


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  • 8 years ago
    I am wanting to go with gray lower cabinet doors and ultra white upper cab doors from semihandmade. Refacing.
  • 8 years ago

    Oh so the red brown will be gone... I have never heard of semihandmade. How interesting. They just cover the cabinets? Like a refacing product?

    It will NOT be too white. It will look great. Keep in mind if you use texture to create interest white can really work. The good news is that you have shaker style cabs that will probably look the same as they do now but perhaps white and gray. There is not other ornate detail so it could really work with those counters. Look for a backsplash tile with texture. Find something like gold hardware or maybe a cool light fixture.

    Go to Houzz and search in photos exactly what you want to do and you will find some inspirational photos to help you get on your way. Do you have a sample of the colors gray and white?


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  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    Very 2011 Kit of The Year. Now that wood cabinets, natural colored floors, and colors are coming in, are you going to rip out that past fad and start over again to go with the new one?

  • 8 years ago

    Yeah, I don't think it's too much white, either, and I like white and gray color schemes. Maybe add a bright color as an accessory color? A nice bright blue, red, yellow, or orange? Yellow and blue work especially well with gray and white, IMO. You could just get some hand towels and maybe a few countertop accessories, like paper towel dispenser/towel rod/sugar bowl/toaster/utensil holder...that kind of thing, and that will brighten it up and add some cheer. I think it looks awesome so far!

  • 8 years ago

    Oh, FYI...I'm currently re-doing my kitchen, and I'm having my cabinet doors made by Scherr's. Their door prices are very reasonable, IMO (less than Semihandmade, I'm pretty sure), and they will finish the doors in any Sherwin-Williams color you choose (as well as doing any door/drawer front in any size). I'm finishing mine myself, because I'm on a rather tight budget, but it's something to look into. You could add brighter-colored doors here and there if you want, or maybe have your peninsula doors be a different color, if you're worried about too much gray and white.

    I'm doing IKEA cabinets, and Scherr's is making me doors that look just like the Hittarp door (with grooves up and down the entire surface, no raised frame around them). Hittarp comes in off-white, so this way I can do white doors, and I built a shelf peninsula that's painted in S-W's "Oceanside." My toekicks will also be Oceanside, for a bit of fun and color in all the white. Orange is my accessory color--all of my countertop accessories (utensil holder, coffee crock, sugar bowl, knife holder) are Le Creuset's "Volcanic." I just haven't decided yet if I want butcher block countertops or black or white (or some other color, hee; I could paint laminate any shade and then seal with polyurethane or acrylic. I did that in a previous kitchen: the walls were pale spring green, the cabinets white with bright yellow doors, and I painted the old [1960s] laminate countertop a cool blue-gray and sealed with several coats of clear polyurethane. It looked awesome, especially with pale wood flooring throughout.)

    I hope that helps! Your kitchen looks gorgeous so far!

  • 8 years ago

    @Sidgirl K

    You'll have to share pictures with us when you get it all put together! I'm sure Houzz would like to see it too - that color scheme sounds fantastic!

  • 8 years ago

    Hey, thanks, Scherr's! I will definitely share photos--I can't wait to get my new cabinets and especially my doors & drawer pulls. You guys are amazing to work with so far. Tanner has been so patient with me and all my changes and questions; I'm probably driving him nuts, lol, but he's great about all of it. I'm hoping to be able to get a custom cabinet or two from you, as well!

  • 8 years ago

    Which tile to go with?
    The hexagone or fabric like texture porcelain taupe tile in herringbone (8 x 24)?