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Houzzing it - Help my hideous bathroom.

8 years ago
These past four months, we did a lot of work on our house. In the process, we learned more from the community ‘in-houzz’ than the contractor we paid tens of thousands $$. We realized we are a capable of a lot more even as first time homeowners, though some things need to be left to contractors for sure. Going fwd, the plan is to Houzz-it-all BEFORE even talking to the next contractor, no matter the recommendations!! Goes without saying, before DIYing too!

First Houzz-it project -
I have a brown+ pinkish beige bathroom. Though a third bathroom, it is the only one at the lower level, where the family hang out area is. Kids playroom and also tv area. Renovation budget is done for these two years so re-tiling isn’t an option. We are in the middle of removing the wallpaper to paint. No idea what color yet. Painting the cabinets is possible too. Change out pendants? Otherwise, we are at our wits’ end what else to do to make a bit easier on the eyes...a friend also suggested to paint the tile with something called Rustoleum tile transformation. Researched it a little. I prefer to go there as a last resort. Here are some pictures...

Comments (38)

  • 8 years ago

    I would just live with it a bit longer until you can do the changes you really want to do.

  • 8 years ago
    Painting tile would be my last choice, too. I would do nothing until I could afford to do a TOTAL renovation on this bathroom. Agree it is pretty bad. Sorry.
  • 8 years ago
    Unless you can change all the hard surfaces, i doubt you will be happy. Losing the pendants wont do it. As the other poster said, save up to get rid of what you have, (the Tuscan brown trend).
  • 8 years ago
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    Boy, do I remember this tile from the 70's :)

    Contrary to the others, I would continue with the removal of the wallpaper and paint the walls. I would also store away those light fixtures or sell them and update. I'll have to think about a color that works with all that beige and brown. This will at least lighten the bath. The easiest ways to update - when you can't afford to renovate - is painting walls, changing lighting, changing fixtures (sink faucet), changing vanity hardware and painting walls. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Another thing you can do is bring in a professional grout cleaning company. You would be amazed at the difference in the color of grout when it is professionally cleaned, especially after decades of being in place.

  • 8 years ago
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    Thinking about the color naturally you could go with a cream, but I think a bold color in the oranges or brown may actually be better for the bath. I know it's a little bit of surprise, but I say work with what you have.... you will have to sample quite a bit to get the right brown or orange that works with your floor tile. Or even a sage green. You will also need great lighting.

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    ^this brown looks very sophisticated

  • 8 years ago

    would it be possible for you guys to rip out the tile outside the shower on the walls and replace with dry-wall, then leave the floors and shower tile for now. While its a good bit of work, its not impossible to DIY. Having the grout cleaned would at least help some too... then paint walls and vanity, update lights and hardware.

    Definitely 'putting lipstick on a pig' approach, but it may make it more bearable until youre able to do a full reno.

  • 8 years ago

    Yikes! Reminds me of my main floor bathroom -- which will be a total gut job this summer.

    I'd paint the walls, and change out the light fixtures for now. Maybe paint the vanity and door/trim while you're at it. Then start saving to do it proper. I wouldn't invest too much time or money now because I'm guessing you're going to need to replace everything to be happy with it.

    Sounds like you've completed some other big projects already. Just remember with older homes that need "makeovers" in a lot of areas... it's a marathon not a sprint. It's annoying to live with the ugly in the meantime but I think it's worth doing it once and doing it right when you have the funds available, if you're planning to stay in the place long term.


  • 8 years ago

    if you diy is not that expensive put new tile on. it's pretty bad sorry

  • 8 years ago
    Thank you everyone. @Denita: I see what you mean about working with it with a surprise color. Orange happens to be my fav color so that is an option. Definitely would have been easier if floor was solid brown. I am salivating over the floors of those bathrooms.
    @Nick, cutting out tile and drywalling is what the GC did w our upstairs bathroom. How difficult is that for a DIYer? We had dirty bare drywall on one wall of the garage. We cut it out and replaced with new ones ourselves but it wasn’t finished further. Taping mudding etc...what should one pay great attention to?
  • 8 years ago
    Correction: the last question was directed @adparker53. AND everyone else:)
  • 8 years ago
    You can lay plank luxury vinyl over tile if it's thick enough to hide the tile pattern. Find a quartz remnant for the vanity top. Paint the vanity and replace the sink with a vessel one. I would replace the shower enclosure with frameless. The pendants don't work. Hang fixtures on each side or mirror or over the vanity. If the mirror isn't in good shape replace with a decorative one. You don't need that wall tile.
  • 8 years ago

    since you are salivating to DIY, the easiest job in there is that floor. since you're on lower level i'm assuming it's on a slab? if so, great. jack out all of that floor tile and remove your vanity. (as a side note, you can find super deals on craigslist for vanities and tops, and leftover small amounts of tile).

    removing a toilet isn't a big deal. just have a new wax ring on hand.

    once you get the floor cleared up, you can retile. Bazillion videos and tutorials online. JohnBridge Tile Forum has the best collection of pro tilers w/tons of info.

    if you wan to keep the bathroom retro, save the pendants and give them a metallic spray paint redo. check out RetroRenovation for all of the great pics of 1950-60's bathroom renos.

    you could find a mcm dresser to use a new vanity and reuse that sink if you like.


    or, build yourself something simple like this one,,

    or this. honestly, these are slabs of solid wood. you would need legs on yours, but it can be done easy and cheaply enough. craigslist also has a lot of wood that is often given away or sold for a song. ditto large mirrors.

    then go to a stone yard or fabricator and see what's heading for the trash bin. (remnants of stone countertops) make a deal w/them. Or, do a concrete overlay and make your own countertop for less than 80 bucks.

  • 8 years ago
    Thank you all for encouraging the DIY. From a skills stand point, I feel like we can pull off vinyl planking over tile and cutting out drywall along with the wall tiles and replacing with plain drywall. The rest of the updates, the houzz community and I seem to agree they aren’t scaring my pocket as much after browsing thru resources suggested. (@Beth, Thank you!!).
    Questions:
    Floor tile doesn’t have any imperfections as such. Pretty smooth. No damaged areas except the baseboard pieces. But with grout lines, how smooth does it have to be to lay vinyl planks over the top?
    Question 2: the walls have corners/where two planes meet or narrow corner where closet wall and adjacent wall meet etc... How difficult is drywalling corners properly?
  • 8 years ago

    you can't do the vinyl (well you can, but it will look like blech) over those mosaics because it will 'show' through to the vinyl w/the imprints. if you hate it, just take it up! it's not a big deal. tile is cheap. go to a tile warehouse where they only have small lots leftover or find something on sale. what is that, 30 sq feet or so? you can find tile below 10 bucks a sq foot all day. or like I said, look on craigslist. check every day. people buy too much tile and try and sell off the rest. they just want to make whatever they can, so bargain with them. they'll prob take half of what they're asking.

  • 8 years ago
    You can replace the mirror with a framed one from a local “home goods” stores. Just getting rid of your existing mirror and light fixtures will be a good starting point. There is also a grout product at HDepot called poly blend grout renew. It comes in different shades. It’s easy to apply. I used an old toothbrush to apply the paint. (saw a short video online). It’s a great product: less than $15, easy application, and dries fast. I wouldn’t spend too much until you have the funds for a proper makeover.
  • 8 years ago

    It's quite Brady Bunch. Add orange paint and a framed 70's record cover. The lights can be cleaned up- without them, it's just Dullsville.


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  • 8 years ago

    Beth is right about the floor. You can do it yourself. My mom just did it in 2 bathrooms about the same size. Took a few days ripping up the old tile, then a few more laying and grouting the new tile. She got little white hexagon tiles for super cheap and did both bathrooms with them. Looks great!

    I would definitely replace the pendant lights and painting any fresh, new color will brighten this space up.

  • 8 years ago
    The Sheetrock work is the cheapest part of any renovation... and the hardest for a amateur to pull off... you can do the demo and get a pro to do the Sheetrock... get a price from a Sheetrock worker that may want to make a little cash on the weekend...
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    white hex! good idea Emily. you can find those porcelain ones for cheap. I'd do a larger size those. the little hex and penny rounds can be a little difficult to lay if you've never laid tile. I'd do something like this,,,,then when you do the rest of the bathroom, do the subway tiles or something.

    oh one more thing,,,while you are perusing craigslist,,please please look for new shower doors! that's another thing you can find for cheap. just measure carefully to see what size you require. getting new doors will make a huge difference.

    if you happen to find a new vanity for cheap, careful remove those tiles on the side wall and just paint. if you have to repair the drywall, it's not difficult, just be careful removing those old tiles.

    or, you could always paint the ones on the outside

    here's a vanity you could make yourself for a few hundred. check CL, garage sales, estate sales, ask people if they have old dressers.

    get a remnant top, look for used faucet and redo your own pendant lights. clean the up and paint the chains. replace your mirror.


    just looked on my local CL and found these marble tiles for 5 bucks. 60 sheets. not bad,

    and another deal. guy is selling this thick limestone countertop and sink for $50!

    you could have it fit to a dresser you find, or another vanity, or make something like this base that they have it on,,,like this that you make out of simple wood and top w/the stone

  • 8 years ago

    I should maybe add the tiles she got were laid in sheets, which made them much easier to lay. Laying tiny tiles individually would be such a pain! I would advise a matching grout. Makes it much harder to tell if your spacing is a little off. It's also a very clean look, which this bathroom would benefit from.

  • 8 years ago

    emily, no, I meant the sheets! you don't lay 1x1's one at time! it's not 1920! lol.

    even the ones on the sheets are difficult to lay straight. I've done them and it can be a bit challenging to get all the grout lines spaced evenly all the way around. there are tricks to staggering the sheets as well.

  • 8 years ago

    nice job luckey! yes, it is one of the easier DIY bathroom tasks.


  • PRO
    8 years ago
    The room is dark and heavy. I’d definitely change the heavy lights to left the room a little. Since you are on a tight budget, painting would be the cheapest way to go. I wouldn’t pain the wall in light color to contrast the tiles, but Paint the wall in dark brown close to the color of one of the mosaic floor tile, and paint the cabinet same color, semi gloss. That way, your eyes will less distracted by the old tiles. And change the fixtures too. If you could, get a big mirror that goes all the way to the ceiling from the vanity.
  • PRO
    8 years ago
    If you are on budget
    1-Remove the pendants by modern one’s.
    2-Remove the Aluminium frame of the shower (you can place it by glass sheet or keep it open)
    3-Repaint the white color.
    4-Repaint the cabinets by brighter wood colors.
    5-Change the faucet!

    When things go all right money wise you can change the tiles (wall and floor) and sanitary.
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Good quality and creative patterned wall tiles don’t have to cost
    an arm and a leg with installation. You can do it yourself with mesh mounted or
    peel & stick adhesive tiles. https://www.houzz.com/projects/1509556/wow-tiles-bold-unique-elegant

  • 8 years ago
    It seems like the houzz has arrived at an agreement. You all think changing the tiles could be DIYed. Once that is taken care of, none of it going to feel daunting. I was only skeptical about my skills (or lack of..) re tiling. I am now psyched to try. I haven’t really got too much to lose. I have 3 whole boxes of leftover tiles from my recent reno, Craigslist has too many vanities/vanities top. so materials aren’t an issue really. I am going to start by watching a lot of YouTube tilers. Also need to write up a plan: what needs tone done first weekend, what next...For now, got the hubby to agree to go to the weekly workshop at the local Tile shop!!
  • 8 years ago
    I would aim for some diy cosmetic improvements in the near term. Embrace the wall tile for now. Lay vinyl wood- look planks on the floor, in a lighter wood. There are inexpensive click together vinyl or stick down that can be used in wet areas. Paint the cabinet in a bright coral in semi gloss. Add some colored vases for the counter.
  • 8 years ago

    Personally, I think it's kind of interesting tile. It's not what I would pick new, but I might work with it.

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  • 8 years ago
    Just curious can we see a picture the leftover tiles?....
  • 8 years ago
    @louise, now that I am feeling like We can do more work ourselves, I might not have to live with it for too long. We are actually debating between vinyl click n lock or new tile once we remove the ugly tiles. @rita, left over tiles below are from upstairs bathroom. Got one box of the floor tile and two boxes of the glass tiles. I went to the local Restore store just to check it out...
  • 8 years ago

    That floor is what makes it dark and heavy for me. It looks to be sheet vinyl rather than tile, in which case it should be easy to replace. Find something light and somewhat solid rather than a busy pattern, perhaps even an inexpensive remnant. Paint the walls, update the lighting and hardware and live with it until you can save enough for a complete Reno. Good luck!


  • 8 years ago

    Before you put vinyl over the tiles, apply a floor-leveler. It's a cement-like material that you trowel on and it fills all the low spots in the floor so that it's perfectly smooth and that makes a good base for the vinyl floor.

    Pull the toilet up and apply the thin tile under it. Do not try to tile around the toilet.

  • 8 years ago
    Good luck ...I can see you are on the right track....
  • 8 years ago

    My question is this. in general terms:

    "When do older bathrooms that are out of style start getting a pass?"

    I think about this because I am not sure what makes this bathroom "hideous" except that it's not conforming to current taste. I know I would not have picked that wall tile in 1975 or whenever it was picked.

    But there are plenty of brand new bathrooms (and kitchens, really) that are just as brown and black as this bath and have just as much competing texture than this bath--more, even.

    So I come to the conclusion that the entire bath is "hideous" because it's not current and maybe a little worn out, not because it's actually hideous.

    With all due respect to Denita, the bathrooms she posted--none of them are going to age any better than the OP's bathroom, and will probably veer into "hideous"ness themselves. (I think a couple of them are already there, but that's a matter of personal taste). But they are not going to age well whether you currently like them or not.

    I am not as familiar with the "Houzz mentality" as much as I am the "Gardenweb mentality", but I think that Houzz has a little bit more of a scorched earth policy when it comes to remodeling to current standards. It must conform. I feel like if Houzz had been around in the 1980s they would have put a neo-Victorian bathroom with geese wallpaper into Fallingwater. I exaggerate, but only slightly.

    So when you look at real estate, what do you find more satisfying? A house that's been remodeled and updated one room at a time, not taking the entire house into context so that there's a little of this and a little of that and you can tell that the kitchen was done in 2000, the master bath in 2007 and the hall bath in 2014? Or is it more satisfying to look at a house that all seems to fit together?

    What do you like better when you look at a Victorian house or pre-WWII house, one that has bathrooms where some of the features are intact or the character has been replaced with character, or a 1980s or 1990s bath?


    These baths were considered "dated" or "hideous" at one time. Some people probably still think that, but these at least can be understood in a historical perpective.




  • 8 years ago

    pal, I see I didn't state what I was thinking very well at all. I wasn't posting baths for the OP to which to change her current bath, but wall colors to use instead of rehabbing the bath.

    Are brown or orange not the typical suggestions, yes. My point was work with what you have in the bath now. I suggested updating the light fixture, painting the walls, changing out the sink faucet for small updates until the OP could get together the funds to remodel the way they want to remodel.

    I agree with your central point about the bath not being actually hideous, it is just something the OP doesn't like given today's marketing of 'rehab, rehab, rehab'. I also respect you and your POV very much.

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    I know you were not posting those as aspirational baths so much as color combinations to work with the existing bath, but in the bigger picture, some of them are to me examples of trends that will show their age more than some, over the mid term.

    Not everything about the OP bath warrants "preservation" either. I am particularly not a fan of popcorn ceilings and 1970s regency, gothicky looking light fixtures. But I think the bath could mostly be maintained and updated in a fashion that acknowledged what it is. Particularly as a third bath in the house.