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Station wagons rock

8 years ago

So why don't they make them anymore? A couple of weeks ago I crashed my Volvo XC70 wagon. I loved that car. I could haul almost as much lumber as with a 1/2 ton truck, I could load 4 bikes on the attached Thule rack, it was so safe I felt like I was driving a tank, with the kid's jump seats in the way way back, I could carry 7 passengers and yet I could pull up to have drinks at the club and still feel refined (okay, I made up the part about the club. I don't have a club).

Even tho I was heartbroken to learn they wouldn't be able to fix it, I have to admit that I was a tiny bit excited at the prospect of getting a newer version of my best friend - maybe even one with bluetooth! But today I had to come to terms with the sad truth that Volvo isn't making them anymore. And they've cut down on production so much in the last few years that I can't even find a used one (which is really all I can afford anyways).

Anyone have a good alternative for me? I promise to consider other vehicles with a semi-open mind even tho I don't really believe there is a better or even comparable one out there (but don't tell my DH since I've told him, he's not to sleep until he finds me another XC70). Thanks.

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  • 8 years ago

    Doesn't Volvo have a whole line of wagons? The V series? Or maybe you could try a smaller SUV?? I just (January) bought a 2018 Volvo XC60 Inscription, which is the smaller version of the XC90. So far I'm very happy with it. I know they have a new smaller model too, the XC40 but I don't know anything about them.

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  • 8 years ago

    Thanks everyone. Listening to my teenagers, you'd think that I should be reported to Child and Family Services for making them be seen riding in a station wagon, so it is good to know that I'm not the only one that likes them.

    Oly, I have heard good things about Subaru and will add that to the list. When I bought this wagon 10 years ago, I tried out several other makes and didn't find anything I liked. I think I just have to get out there and try again as I'm sure things have changed in that time. I haven't even heard of the Ascent. I'll check it out.

    fun2bhere, thanks for the article. I'm going to go read it now before we head out to the dealerships.

    smhnb, there are a couple of used V series wagons for sale in Canada, but none near me. I think they came out later and not many used on the market. If I could afford to buy new, my options would be much better. I'm still trying to figure out what platform each model is on. I like the XC70 because it is a car platform and I can load things on the roof rack on my own. I'm worried I'll have to carry a ladder to get things on the top of something with an suv platform (but on the otherhand, there might be more interior room?).

    There are a couple of nice used XC70s for sale in Quebec, but that is a few days drive from me. I think some dealers will ship to other provinces, but it is a lot of extra paper work and I'm leary of buying a car without actually seeing it in person. But I may have to go that route. Buying from the States is out. From what I understand it is really difficult to do and with our dollar right now, very hard on the wallet, too.

    Thanks for the support and ideas. I'm going to try to hit a few dealers today before everything shuts down for Good Friday.


  • 8 years ago


    You want to feel like you’re driving a refined tank which seats seven and has rear-facing third-row seats? Here you go:

    2018 Mercedes-Benz E 400 4MATIC Wagon

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  • 8 years ago

    I had a 1993 Volvo 240 wagon. I could have lived in it if I had to -- it had a 6' bed when the rear seats were down. The transmission was going bad at 275,000 miles when I traded it in. I still miss it.

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  • 8 years ago

    Ha, Sammy. A friend of mine bought the Mercedes wagon about two years ago and she and her husband both like his Kia Sportage better.

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  • 8 years ago

    Hello, fellow wagon lovers. I was a big fan of my 1982 240DL, then later a 2005 XC70- fantastic family and dog hauler and with proper winter tires, a real beast in the snow. We test drove a newer one in 2015 but the redesign lost its appeal to me - didn't have that solid as a tank quality to it. I ended up replacing it with a summer wagon and a winter wagon, so to speak. Summer is a manual transmission BMW 328 wagon - it doesn't have nearly the same level of boxy cargo space as the XC70, more like a oversize hatchback, but its definitely a zippier, fun sportier drive. Sports Car for Moms lol. With xdrive it does quite well in the snow, but I've turned it into a summer only-garage queen since manual transmissions are discontinued in that model, boo.....

    My "winter wagon" is now a Toyota 4Runner TRD PRO - no, its not really a wagon, its very much truck based body on frame SUV. But out of many cars I test drove, it most reminded me of the boxy-tank like drive of the XC70. Check out the Limited model if you want more luxury interior features, or the TRD PRO if you need more off-road capabilities.

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  • 8 years ago

    I bought the last production year of the xc 70 in 2016. I gave my son my 2007 xc70 with over 100,000 miles that I was just breaking in. So I ended up buying a new one and I’m glad I squeezed in under the wire. I plan to drive it for 20 years.

    The salesperson told me the xc70 was their most popular model so it’s odd they would discontinue the line. I do think the replacement is much more money

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  • 8 years ago

    How ridiculous!! ^^^^^ So much for give the people what they want. My current car is much "fancier" than my beloved Volvos. I would go back in a NY minute.

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  • 8 years ago

    My DH is getting the Mercedes wagon, but going with the bigger AMG engine. Our teen is also complaining about having to ride in a station wagon! DH currently has the sedan version of the Mercedes and is very happy with it. He wants the station wagon for a bit more flexibility in carrying things, such as the dog and taking kids and their stuff to/from college.

    I have a large SUV, but DH doesn't love driving it as much as a sedan or wagon with a lower ride height.

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  • 8 years ago

    I love my 2011 XC70!! I hope it lasts a long time. There are still a few 2015-16 to be had new, but understand why you want used. Just keep looking. In the US, they will ship b/w dealerships. Not sure about Canada. If you want info overload, visit swedespeed forum. Lots of info and lots of Volvo diehards. http://forums.swedespeed.com/forumdisplay.php?107-V70-amp-XC70-(2008-2016)

    I did see and love the new V90CC but it is very pricey. If I was in the market for a new car, I’d definitely consider it. But I’m happy with my XC70 for now!

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  • 8 years ago

    I agree with you on station wagons!

    I had a 2014 VW Diesel Jetta Wagen that my husband bought for me when he received his terminal diagnosis. Besides the sentimentality of owning it, I loved driving it, and the form factor/space. It was one of those in the buy-back program. I test drove the gasoline VW Wagen when I turned in the diesel, but I didn't get it because I no longer live near a reputable VW service center. I ended up with a Toyota RAV4.

    My son has an Acura wagon, and it's no longer made. Another nice wagon.


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    I had thought I would buy the Mercedes station wagon this last time, as I love the look of them, but ended up with the SUV instead. I guess I am just used to sitting up higher and when I test drove the station wagon around (even took it home for a day) it was just too low to the ground for me.

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  • 8 years ago

    Keep looking for the Volvo. I have a colleague who has over 200K on her XC70.

    My dept chair has a new XC60 but that's really not a wagon.

    My Subaru Outback is considered a wagon .

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  • 8 years ago

    we bought a 2014 Cadillac wagon in feb with 24000 miles for a very reasonable price i wanted a wagon and i wanted a used car as we have 7 other cars (antiques) and dh has a new truck (i put less than 500 miles a month on my car and my old car was almost 14 years old) i'm completely happy with my new old car.....

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  • 8 years ago
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    Well, didn't have much luck today. I'm able to use my FIL' s car until I find something, so I think I will sit tight for a bit and hope someone gets spring fever and decides to trade in their old wagon.

    Ran into my neighbour loading up his Subaru Outback and he let me look at the cargo room. He couldn't stop raving about it.

    There was one XC70 listed in Quebec that had a notation that the dealer would ship, but it seems to have been sold. Lots of others in Quebec. If it was the start of my vacation instead of the end, I would probably fly out, buy one and drive back.

    I think I should revise my initial post, as there really do seem to be more wagons out there than I originally thought.

    Saw the replacement for the XC70 in the showroom today. It looks a lot like the mercedes E 400 wagon that Sammy posted above.

    Yes, we are swedespeed readers (well, my DH more than I - he has an S 60 sedan). We are hooked on all things Swede - from our dishwasher to our backpacks.

    Thanks again for all the advice. I'll post a pic if/when I find something.

  • 8 years ago

    How about a minivan? They hold 6 or more adults comfortably(something very few SUVs can say) can carry a lot of stuff and are very comfortable to drive.

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  • 8 years ago

    I am on my second Subaru Forester. I’m a big fan.

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  • 8 years ago

    Just saw the reveal for the new 2019 Forester--nice! The Forester is smaller and shorter in length than the Outback but it has more headroom. The Outback is longer and has less headroom so it is more wagon-like. I've had both. Not sure what my next car will be.

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  • 8 years ago

    I had an Audi Allroad A6 wagon that was the best car ever! It was a bi-turbo and you could raise or lower the car to suit conditions. I was in an accident (other guy at fault) and it looked like very little damage, but one of the turbos was cracked, so they declared it a total loss. I now have an Audi Avant A4 wagon. It is a bit smaller, but it is terrific, too. Lots of pep. The new allroads are not as great as my old 2001. The Avant is a 2010 and I hope it lasts forever...or until my son takes away my keys! Ha.

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  • 8 years ago

    Cyn, the Audi wagon looks like a great car! I wish the Audi dealership was closer to our house. We have a ton of dealers near our home but Audi, BMW, Volvo, and Lexus are way at the other end of the city where there is another big auto row. It just makes no sense to go to service somewhere else when all these dealers are right by us.

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  • 8 years ago

    I’m still driving my 25 yr old Camry wagon. It has about 75,000 miles on it,

    looking at Toyota RAV4 for long trips to dr etc. get nervous driving that distance in the Camry.

    still love the Camry wagon. Replaced the windshield last wk, several sets of tires, several batteries, changed the oil when required. No other problems in the 25 yrs.

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  • 8 years ago

    I had an Eagle Summit wagon. Fabulous car, not made anymore. I got all kinds of folks admiring it and asking me about it when I had it. Next car was Toyota Matrix wagon. A much lesser car, but I couldn't afford a Subaru. Now they don't even make that car. I looked at the Jetta and Passat wagons before I bought my Matrix. If you can afford it, maybe check out what Subaru has to offer. My friends have a Mazda small wagon. I was not a fan, YMMV.

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  • 8 years ago

    I miss the full sized sedans and their station wagon kin. Caprice! Crown Vic!

    My parents have a Dodge Durango that claims to be an SUV but feels VERY much like a station wagon to me. (It has 4wd and a pretty good tow capacity which is why they got it--that and it is low enough to fit into their weird garage.)


    Volvos are boxy, but they're good. I barely remember the movie, but I'll never forget THAT.

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  • 8 years ago

    Omg Fori!! I was going to mention that movie earlier and I wasn’t sure anyone would get it. . Hysterical. And now I’m in a Volvo. Who knew?!

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  • 8 years ago

    the 2019 Subaru Ascent will be out this summer.


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  • 8 years ago

    Loved that movie and the perfect slogan of all time.

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  • 8 years ago

    What was the name of the movie, Rita? Made me giggle when you posted it. Did it have Dudley Moore?

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  • 8 years ago

    The Ascent can be great if you need 3rd row seating, but I am disappointed it only comes with a 4 cylinder turbo and no V6. They stopped offering manual transmission in the Outbacks and so far no plans to drop the 6 AFAIK. The 4 cylinder is fine in the Forester since it's smaller.

    I like the more aggressive look of the 2019 Forester and love the new Java brown available interior. Eyesight will be standard!


    https://www.subaru.com/nyias2018?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AllTargets&utm_campaign=WalkAroundVideo

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  • 8 years ago

    Crazy people! (the movie - not you guys).

  • 8 years ago

    Yes, Crazy People! Dudley Moore and Darryl Hannah. The slogans they come up with for cars are hysterical.

  • 8 years ago

    Well, there are way more used Outbacks out there than Volvo wagons, that's for sure. I may be getting convinced - but I haven't driven one yet. Also, I seem to have become a car snob and find myself looking down on things like cloth seats. I think I need a reality check.

    Looked at the Ascent, but it's out of our price range and DH says we shouldn't buy something the first year in production.

    Never heard of the Dodge Durango - towing capacity would be good and we also have a low garage. We were looking at V60 volvos but discovered they can't tow. We don't tow often, but I'd like the option.

    Pinkmtn, I drove a little Eagle Hatchback for years. It got horrible reviews, but I never had a problem with mine - ever. Loved it.

    My mom always had a wagon (I guess I come by my love for them honestly) and had Toyota wagons for years. DH and I moved all of our belongings many times using those little wagons - amazing how much they could hold. I remember fitting in a twin bed frame and mattress along with a lot of other stuff in one load.

    happilady, I'm sure a mini-van would meet most of my needs, but I think it would have to include George Clooney as an extra feature, to get me to seriously consider one. Again, I probably need a reality check and may end up eating my words.

  • 8 years ago
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    Daisy you are cracking me up! I understand the car snob part. Volvo really is unsurpassed re: quality and comfort of their front seats. I test drove Audi Q7 (and we have an A4) and Mercedes suv and wagons and frankly they didn’t compare. I also like the XC or CC Volvo compared to V series bc XC are raised like an suv so easier to get into. I know Subaru’s are raised as well but I don’t like their looks and interior as much. Hold out for a used XC!!!

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  • 8 years ago

    Theclose, I've seen the Outback referred to as an "appliance on wheels" and that is about the excitement. At least I have the V6. I do like the height to get in and out. Few weeks back we were at a concert where I decided to go over a small median to use another exit, and I had no issues with ground clearance.

    You can get cloth seats in the Outback premiums, and they do have heated seats on the higher trim models even without leather. My original Forester was a base model with no heated seats. I agree, though, hard to get away from leather once you have it.

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    8 years ago

    I've had a 240 Volvo wagon, and 850 and a XC70. Loved them all! Then I needed a new car when the lease on the XC70 was up, and Volvo wasn't treating me very well. At that time, I leased the most wonderful car I've ever driven - An Audi A6 Avant wagon. They are still made, but not imported into the US, as most women think they look "younger/hipper" in an SUV or SUV crossover. BMI has stopped importing their wagons as well.

    When that lease was up, I moved to what was a brand new car in the US for Audi - a Q5 crossover. I'm now on my 4th Q5 and I love it! It holds more than the wagon did, it's not too tall for this old lady to climb up in, and it handles like a dream - Quattro can truly allow a car to climb a mountain. The All-Road is a lovely Audi wagon but it is much more expensive and I'm not mad about all that plastic around the wheels - fine if the car is black, but ugly if it's not.

    Don't discount getting an Audi just because the dealership is the other side of town. Audi dealerships give amazing service - you will get a loaner and they might even bring it to you and drive away your car. Heck, last April, my Audi salesman came to my house, got my big heavy suitcase down the stairs and into his car, got my carry-on bag in and my heavy percussion vest (pulmonary). His wife then drove his car back to the dealership. He drove me to the airport, then took my car in for doing some re-call work, and left it back in my garage when I got home a week later!!! LOVE my dealership! Love my Audi's!

  • 8 years ago

    I feel your pain, I have had several Volvo wagons and sedans. I now drive an Outback. It just doesn't compare. I refused to buy another Volvo when every one I had kept breaking (small things) constantly and the repair cost for both parts and labor were sky high. I had use of a Forester for a few days when my Outback was being serviced. The Outback has a much better ride. The pros are reliability, cost of purchase and repair, great suspension system, ride on rough roads, cargo space is wider but shorter than a Volvo. Cons are the seats are not nearly as comfortable, (I have cloth, maybe leather is better), lack of power for size of vehicle (buy the bigger engine), really bad radio/sound. Mine is now 51/2 years so some of these things may have changed.

    I had no idea they were still making the XC70 in 2016, but I still think it is too expensive for the lack of long term reliability. Every Volvo I owned (6) odometer stopped working at 120,000-130,000, vacuum leaks start at 150,000, and NYC potholes make replacing control arms a regular occurrence. I wonder if the suspension system is beefier on the XC as compared to the V70? Yet I still morn the fact that I don't have one anymore.

  • 8 years ago

    On a related note, DH just found out Honda Accords no longer come with V6 as of 2018. So, if he wants a V6, he will need to look for a used Accord.

    Hmorton, yes, the V6 in the Outback is a noticeable difference in acceleration, and it's quieter.

  • 8 years ago

    gsciencechick- I wish I had gotten the V6. I do have heated seats and cloth. I love how hot the heated seats get, much hotter than my last Volvo. The clearance is awesome and can really take a beating on the poor potholed roads. Though I am not in love with my Subaru and had serious transmission issues under warranty I will keep it for a few more years as it is going to be paid for in November. However if the transmission starts to balk again its gone and I will move on to something else.

  • 8 years ago

    hmorton, what year is yours? I know there were some transmission issues on the 2015's. I have a 2010 and have 105K miles right now, but I bought it with >50K miles. The V6's are a little harder to find used/Certified. My sister found one when her Crosstrek was in for service. This OB was the V6 fully loaded with eyesight and 1500 miles. So, she called me wanting justification to buy it. I said she she has 5 grandsons and the Crosstrek is not enough for boys and their gear! I need new tires, but that's cheaper than a car payment!

  • 8 years ago

    I have a 2012 Outback bought new. It has had two transmission repairs in the first two years. It was the torque converter a $4500 repair. Subaru in an attempt to avoid a recall has extended its warranty till 100,000 miles. The car stalls suddenly when slowing down or stopping, it feels like you forgot to depress the clutch in a manual transmission. I was almost rear ended when this happened making a turn at a busy intersection. The transmission is dropping rpm's again and I'm at 78500 miles. Hope it goes before I reach 100000. I drove my old Volvo's until the 250000 mile range, but had a family member who could repair anything. I really don't want to buy another new car, always seems like a waste of money. I will have t make a decision when I hit the 90,000 mark. I just replaced the original tires at Costco. Though the tires would probably pass inspection they were worn and older and I was concerned about safety. I waited till they had a sale on Michelins.

    I keep making lists in my head of replacement car. If I could I would buy a manual shift V70 T5. I had a S70R for two years. Great to drive but boy was it one problem after another. And almost no ground clearance.

    Do you love your Outback?

  • 8 years ago

    Well, I have a V8 5-speed Mustang GT, Convertible; that is my true love, LOL. I even had my bridal portraits taken with it. I definitely don't love my Outback as much as that, but I like it a lot! I probably will end up with another one, definitely V6 and all the options. The ride is so quiet on trips and it has good functionality.

  • 8 years ago
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    Bought a used Volvo today, so thought I would update. Sadly, it is an SUV not a wagon, but it seems like a good fit for us. It's an XC 60. It was owned by a meticulous man, has very few miles on it (and mostly highway miles) and has every possible option I might want. It was a bit more than I wanted to pay, but I think it is worth it (also has winter tires and 2 years left under a very comprehensive warranty).

    We are a pretty dull couple and buying a car is a bit of a big deal for us. The guy that owned this car was a real character who emigrated here from Europe, lives in an unusual historical house and really hit it off with my DH. Somehow, this minor quirky story attached to the car makes me feel even more like it is the car for us.

    Thanks for all your help. This thread was really a nice way for me to celebrate my time as a wagon owner (I obviously have a bit of a difficult time with change) and I'm glad to hear others appreciate them, too.

  • 8 years ago

    I hope you enjoy your new vehicle.

  • 8 years ago

    I think you'll come to love it Daisychain. I didn't really want an SUV either (wanted an AWD car). My husband kept steering me to the Volvo SUVs. He works away and I travel alone most of time, back and forth to work and so on, and I guess he felt I'd be a bit safer in a bigger vehicle. The XC60s have a great safety rating. Anyway, after 2 years of back and forth I finally bought at XC60 in January and I really have to say that I am loving it. I especially like the way it handles, easy to park, etc. I hope you'll be happy with yours also. :)


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  • 8 years ago

    Congrats! The XC60s are great cars and are rated well. Yes, it’s not a wagon, but I think you’ll love it. We’ve contemplated the XC90 for our next car, as we are still in the young child stage and think being able to cart around friends would be nice. We will cross that bridge when we come to it.

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  • 8 years ago

    I think you'll be very happy with the XC60. My dept chair loves hers.

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  • 8 years ago

    We just bought a new XC60, like you I just wanted a XC70, we drove to Florida from MA and it was a very very comfortable, felt very secure on the highways. Love my Volvo's. We did test drive on all the other cars mentioned and still wanted a Volvo. Volvo seems to be a popular car in New England. We noticed there were hardly any in Florida and when we did see one it had New England plates!

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  • 8 years ago

    Too funny. I too am a station wagon person and went through the same issues you did. I will be coming out of a BMW and wanted to keep the same horsepower. So I was looking at the XC 70 T6. Actually found a couple with less than 10K miles.

    Everybody looks at me funny when I say I'm buying a 2015 station wagon!

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  • 8 years ago

    Just a few years back, Cadillac had a CTS-Wagon. I think there a FEW CTS-V's made too, as wagons. The "V's" were the Bad-ass V8 versions. If I had a SW, it would have to be the "V" version!!!!! Sure....... plenty of storage......AND.....a slightly detuned Corvette engine!!!

    Picture the SW, with clouds of billowing tire smoke........ ;-)

    Faron

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  • 8 years ago

    I had to watch some y/t vids on the various CTS-V's over the last few years. You'll find all kinds of Sedan & Wagon reports.

    Driving those BEASTS around.....oh dear God......hang on! ;-) Sure, you could pull up to the country-club in a respectable Caddy SW like that! Then, when you're leaving with friends, & start the thing up, eyes start to get wiiiiiiiidddde....... (Heh-heh!)

    Faron