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8 years ago

Hi all,


We are re-doing our kitchen and fell in love with natural hickory (solid hardwood). We chose a pre-finished line from Shaw: https://shawfloors.com/flooring/hardwood/details/winner-s-circle-3-25-sa413/rustic-natural-hickory


After discussion with our contractor and much reading on Houzz, we decided to do site-finished instead (for many reasons).


Has anyone done site-finished hickory flooring in a kitchen? Any tips for getting the look we were hoping for from the pre-finished? Would love to see pictures if you have any.


Thanks!

Comments (34)

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    What look was it you liked from the prefinished, a good flooring finisher should be able to match finish. I would however mention hickory is a very busy wood.

  • 8 years ago
    Hello Patricia,

    We really liked the coloration and grain of the natural hickory. Maybe white oak would be a good replacement and not as busy?
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Hickory sands just like maple. The finisher is going to have lots of fun removing big machine marks. Don't skip a grit, may have to take it to 150 grit for a good surface finish, depending on their equipment.

  • 8 years ago
    Maybe we should just give up on hickory? Sounds like it’s hard to work with and not the most stable species either.
  • 8 years ago

    Not sure if anyone is still paying attention to this thread, but after more research we're thinking of doing the following:

    3.25" White Oak solid hardwood, character grade, no stain, satin/low-gloss finish, site-finished.

    Any thoughts? Recommendations on the finish? It looks like Loba and Glista are popular among pros on Houzz.

  • 8 years ago

    White oak is a very popular choice. Character grade is still going to look busy. Satin finish is perfect. If you have can lighting anything shinier will reflect. A lot of people like the heavy traffic Bona.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    White Oak will also be more stable than Hickory, less busy, and easier to finish.

    Joe P thanked Oak & Broad
  • 8 years ago

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    Thanks very much all. We do like the "busy" look so that is fine with us in terms of color/grain variation. I'm attaching a Houzz picture of the type of look we're going for (floor in this image is hickory).

  • 8 years ago

    I agree with Sophie - go with the prefinished hickory. We have a very similar prefinished hickory in our home now and it has been awesome - beautiful and nearly indestructible.

  • 8 years ago

    Kristin - what brand did you go with?

  • 8 years ago

    We went with 3” 4”and 5” white oak in a mix of grades. No stain. Just natural finish let’s all the character of the wood show.

    Joe P thanked M E
  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I think Hickory is a good choice. We've never had any issues finishing Hickory/Pecan, especially in natural color like the Shaw floor you like. Hickory has grain similar to Oak and is a little harder than White Oak. A knowledgeable wood floor expert should be able to duplicate the look of that Shaw and do so without bevels. That said, the Shaw floor would probably be more durable with the factory finish and it should save time and money.

    If you site-finish Hickory you have the choice of select or character grade. The lower grade could have more character than you anticipate so you might want to order extra unless you have closets that can use the culls. I prefer the select grade. Going custom would also give you the option of longer lengths and various widths.

    Joe P thanked Johnson Flooring Co Inc
  • 8 years ago

    M E, that is really beautiful and we'd be happy with a look like that. Thank you for sharing.


    Johnson Flooring, much appreciated, the pro perspective is great and it's good to know you think we'd be fine either way. I have seen many pros on Houzz say they prefer site-finishing so that was my thinking.

  • 8 years ago

    I have natural hickory in matte finish in my living room and dining room. I love it. It is actually easy care as it is so hard and the matte makes it less shiny. I love the grain variation and it gets lots of compliments. I would do it again in a heartbeat.

    Joe P thanked New Freedom Nurse
  • 8 years ago

    Returning to this now having considered all the options and we're probably going with:

    3.25" site-finished white oak, select grade with some character grade mixed in

    -One coat Bona IntenseSeal

    -Two coats Bona TrafficHD


    Any thoughts on this choice? Thanks again for everyone's input!

  • 8 years ago

    I love my character grade white oak floors, we finished ours with Rubio monocoat..I love the matte natural look.

    Go with whatever you love, you will be the ones living with it everyday.

  • 8 years ago

    Meris we were considering monocoat also for the natural look. How durable has it been?

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I might install wood in my own kitchen but I would never finish it with Rubio Monocoat. It spots with water drips.

    Joe P thanked Johnson Flooring Co Inc
  • 8 years ago

    We have prefinished hickory throughout our first floor in our house. It's beautiful! I love everything about it. I wanted it prefinished because I wanted the texture & not smooth.

    Joe P thanked mark_rachel
  • 8 years ago

    Johnson Flooring - that was my concern about monocoat also (spotting/staining with water or oils). It sounds like the Bona TrafficHD should be fine in a kitchen so we'll probably go with that.

  • 8 years ago

    Nope, my Rubio monocrat does not spot with water drips. That's weird. Ive never heard that. 3 kids a dog, in my kitchen as well as living room, and I love it.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    I love my Rubio also. Two floors have drip marks which I assume are from my dog. She did have an accident (solid) one night on my BR floor (White Oak treated with Smoke and oiled with Cotton White); surprisingly it left no mark. As a floor refinisher I have to manage customer expectations. If I tell someone that Rubio won't hold up in their kitchen and they do it anyway, I'm covered. If I tell them it will be no problem and it is, I'll catch hell.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Hickory is a busy wood but if you put a light stain on it, it calms down without losing it's character. You could mistake it for oak but hickory grain is prettier than oak.

    A factory finish will probably give you a more long-lasting finish. There are technologies they can employ and chemicals they can use that you can't replicate. Am I right, Johnson?

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Exactly correct about factory finish.

  • PRO
    8 years ago

    Thanks, I know that in the cabinet world, manufacturers use an electrostatic finish process that binds the ions in the finish together, making it a harder finish. Do you do something similar?

  • 8 years ago

    Johnson, I can see your point in managing expectations. I knew what I was getting into. I love my floors. I am finding that they are wearing wonderfully, I like them better than my old poly floors and find them easier to care for. I never did hear about the water marks though, and I don't have those. and you have to clean spills pretty quickly, but isn't that all wood floors?


  • PRO
    8 years ago

    On film forming finishes water drips will often evaporate without making a mark. Traditional wax finishes spot almost immediately. Some oils hold up better to drips than others. Maybe I baby my floors too much but I want them to stay nice. Harris Angelique herringbone with Rubio White 2C oil.

  • 8 years ago
    Well, at long last we got our floors installed and finished. We went with R&Q white oak, sealed with IntenseSeal, finished with Traffic HD. We are absolutely in love with the look, thanks so much to everyone who gave us advice in this thread!
  • 8 years ago

    And nice floors they are! I really like the long boards.

  • 8 years ago
    Thank you latifolia! We were lucky to find a great local supplier and got a great selection of board lengths.
  • 8 years ago

    Looks good Ed B....in our previous home we had oak low grade with a satin finish... we went with the low grade because we liked the look & character of it, 26 years later with a few marks & dings it now has a new family. For our new build we are going with an pre-finished acacia wood in a carmel colour, hubby researched & thought it would be best for us here on the "wet"/west coast gulf islands of BC/Canada.

  • 8 years ago
    Cheryl that sounds beautiful, I hope you will post pics when done!
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    @Ed B- if you go look at my profile page you will see some photos of the slow process happening here... the house is an ICF/timber frame house. Have a great day.

    Joe P thanked Cheryl Hannebauer