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Climber Suggestions, Please.

8 years ago

Last year I was heartbroken to leave behind my beloved 1/4-acre rose garden that was lush with many beauties from Vintage Gardens and the Sac City Cemetery. I'm now in a new home in Petaluma and would like to plant a climber over this wall in front of the house. It's 4 feet tall and gets full sun. It can be scorching on summer afternoons. In my previous garden I had space to let roses grow huge (I'm looking at you, Madame Alfred Carriere!), but I need this to be more mannerly. I would prefer a white or pink/peach rose. Since VG has closed retail operations, I am hoping to find a good option this Saturday in Sacramento or at the sale in Albany next month. What do you experts suggest? Thank you!




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  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    What about Florence Bower's Pink Tea? Mel's Heritage?

    plp11 thanked Sheila z8a Rogue Valley OR
  • 8 years ago

    Have you considered mlle Blanche lafitte, it’s considered a pillar climber and someone on hmf is using it on a picket fence

    plp11 thanked garden nut z9b
  • 8 years ago

    With that much sun, and concrete and paving, you need something that is VERY heat tolerant. Personally, I would plant a china rose there - they tend to be the most heat tolerant. I have a baby china rose called Arethusa (Paul, 1903). There are lots of pictures of it on HMF. It is peach/pink, and eventually fades to white. Mine is still small, and is growing in a pot in partial shade, so I cannot give you estimates of its growth, but I will bet that in a hot climate it will far exceed the size HMF says it grows to (39 inches). It is rated to zone 10b.

    Jackie


    plp11 thanked jacqueline9CA
  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I hesitate to say this, since I'm such an old rose lover, but with the ever increasing heat and stronger rays of the sun now, I'm not sure that any rose could survive this position in the long term, especially with all the hard surfaces surrounding it. Perhaps if you were to plant a tree to the side where the afternoon sun would hit the rose before you plant the rose, that might work. Considering how empty of large plants this side of your gorgeous house is, a few trees would be the first thing I'd consider at any rate. Of course it would have to be one that wouldn't have invasive roots that would begin to lift the house off its foundations. Ask me how I know, and I'm talking about two trees, in the front and the back of our house, planted there by the former owner. Had to cut one down and have a gargantuan root removed from the giant African tree in the back just this week. Aside from that, both of Sheila's suggestions sound stellar.

    plp11 thanked ingrid_vc so. CA zone 9
  • 8 years ago

    Thank you! I wish I could afford to remove all the lawn and plant a garden, but don't have the funds right now. My last garden was roses, hydrangeas, and companion plants without a single blade of grass. I was hoping for roses to peek up from behind the wall, but maybe it's not a realistic option.

  • 8 years ago

    You want these roses behind the wall, no? Could you put something on the wall to decrease the reflectivity and shade the plants until they're bigger? Only you would see this side of the wall. I know nothing about growing roses in this climate, so I'm really just asking. The experts have already weighed in.

    plp11 thanked Vaporvac Z6-OhioRiverValley
  • 8 years ago

    How about Souvenir de Madame Léonie Viennot. (I just got a plant so I really don't know what I'm talking about, simply lost my mind when I saw the photos and had to get one, I'm now trying to figure out where I'll plant it). Helpmefind says zone 7b and warmer; very vigorous. It's pinky-peach too.

    http://www.helpmefind.com/gardening/l.php?l=2.5895&tab=1

    plp11 thanked FruitCat (GA 7b)
  • 8 years ago

    Does the house side of the wall face north or south, east or west? If north or east, the roots and base of the rose would be in shade for the hottest part of the day and blazing sun might not be as much of an issue.

    Cath

    plp11 thanked cathz6
  • 8 years ago

    Welcome to Petaluma! FYI, Cottage Garden received an order from Burlington that they are still growing up in size. Not sure what they ordered this year, but you can ask them. Should be on sale soon, and good for our area. I bought a few last year, and they are doing very well.

    plp11 thanked lisa hallinan
  • 8 years ago

    I agree with Ingrid that some trees would be nice,perhaps planted so as to provide afternoon shade.

    That's a great idea, Cori Ann. I myself want to start adding lots of prostrate rosemary to my own garden...

    plp11 thanked User
  • 8 years ago

    What about a Plumeria tree to cresate some open shade? I also really like Cori Ann's idea

    plp11 thanked suncoastflowers
  • 8 years ago

    What a variety of wonderful recommendations! I want to try Cori Ann's great idea and appreciate Lisa's suggestion of Cottage Garden as a local source. I'll be researching the suggested roses and trees. Thank you all very much!

  • 8 years ago

    That's a great idea and what I meant by using something to decrease the reflectivity. Besides creating open shade, trees add so much beauty and really help ground a new build. Did you bring any cuttings from your old house? This is going to be beautiful; I hope you continue to post pics of your progress. : )

  • 8 years ago

    You could plant small trees or shrubs behind the wall and have your climbing roses growing through and over them. It would give protection from the heat and sun like Cori Ann's idea with the rosemary.

    Cath