Don't cut more. looks good!

This looks good, Svetlana! It's brave of you to have the strength to cut off those cankered stems that you showed in the other thread, but it's better to prune them now than wait until they've spread further or damaged new growth at the end of canes that won't survive. In my zone, this would be "a lot" of surviving cane over the winter, and I expect it'll grow well for you in the new year. Just keep an eye out in case there are any further canes that look like they're getting the same kind of blackening you saw in the other thread. In my cold zone 5, sometimes canes that will look OK at first will fade and die off a bit more later in the season. For now, you've pruned very well.

Cynthia

Thank you to you both. When you guys prune roses, do you always cut above an excisting bud/eye? Or can you cut wherever you want?

Cynthia, yes I´ll cut my other sick rose next thing tomorrow... plus i spread pelleted cow manure on them. Actually if its the fungus called stem cankers as i read online, it might transform to this Little rose cause i didnt sterilise the scissors inbetween. But anyway, Im in Sweden, zone 3, not sure if these zones are globaly the same, but these two roses should bloom starting from june-july to sept-okt. Will be interesting to see if they´ll grow that fast and all. Roses seem to be more work/sorrow then i imagined. :)

Looks good!

Ive taken a few more pics now cause i noticed one of the stems is dark and looks dry inside. Crap. Do i need to cut that one off too? Does it look bad to you?

Now defunct Royal National Rose Society (of Britain) ran a pruning trial some years ago where it was discovered mowing bedding roses off flat like the top of a hedge - in other words pruning non selectively - resulted in the best flower production.

It was decided this was because the plants were being left with more total stem volume than with the traditional "opening up the center" etc. New top growth is fueled by energy stored in stems, the more stem the more new growth.

And the more flowers.

How did RNRS define bedding roses, Embothrium?

Cut down the dark stem or leave it? Anyone?

Svetlana, if it looks very dry inside the cane then you can cut the dark stem down to the point where the second to last twig comes out from the branch where it looks like the stem is green again. Look at the remaining cane to see if it looks moist and not dark brown, and if it looks OK then leave the remainder. The cane that you posted in your other thread on this topic looks OK as far as I can tell if it's not squishy when you prune it but comes off with a clean snap with your pruners.

The brownish color on the outside of the cane isn't necessarily a problem however - sometimes canes can be sunburned on the outside from the winter but do OK. It would also be OK to let it stay for a week or two and watch to see if the nicely green canes you have growing out from that portion stay green and growing. I don't see anything in that cane that says "cut it off now before it spreads", just that it might not be cane that's sustainable growth further into the spring. If you leave it and the remaining green canes stay green, then keep the cane. If you see those brown bits spread down from the point it is now, or the green canes start to dry out and wither, then you can always prune further low on the cane at that point. Pruning in cold zones is usually done in several steps, and I myself would probably wait and watch this cane rather than cutting it now. With only two roses you have the time to keep an eye on it for now. Having dark dry outsides of a cane can happen when a rose gets mature or old canes and that's a natural aging process - it's just that for most of my roses they never retain enough cane to get old in that way.

Rifls, as I recall the research that Embothrium is reporting, the chain saw pruning was of perfectly hardy and surviving cane in shrub roses, probably Knockouts or something similar. The issue was to test what kind of pruning resulted in maximum flowering on the remaining canes - the picky "cut to the nearest outward facing bud eye" or a more brute force cutting wherever convenient to encourage new growth on the bush. The critical difference in that situation from this one is that all the cane was surviving and the issue was encouraging flowering. In cold zones, we rarely have that luxury and are pruning to find the maximum amount of surviving cane which often isn't very much. It's pruning for a different reason from that study and the decision process is also different.

Cynthia

Thank you I needed that info, very informative. I´ll leave it for now. Just wanted to say i´ll be getting a third rose, a cheap one and at that store people say its usually a suprise when they start blooming cause the labels are often wrong. But for the price, its almost for free and decent quality, people buy there anyways. I read about some hilarious purchases tonight about getting all wrong rose colours and even other wrong flowers when people purchases there.

Thanks Cynthia.