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Anemic Jimmy Crack Corn: what does it like?

8 years ago
last modified: 8 years ago

I have had this for several years (bought in 2015 ), and it’s never done more than produce 3 leaves. It SHOULD get to be 24” tall, which the height I need in that area.

Is this one that has special requirements?

Such as, needing more sun, picky about planting depth, etc.?

It is in bright shade under a very open pine. Some flashes of direct sun, as the day goes on. I am wondering of proximity to the trunk is playing a role (about 18” away). Though that doesn’t seem to bother Blue Angel, Frances
Williams, or Great Expectations: all of which are closer to the trunk.

Or is it just a slow variety? Or not vigorous. Others planted later in the same area are taking off well. It’s also just coming up now, whereas others in the same bed are further ahead. Thanks.

Comments (14)

  • 8 years ago

    JCC is a sport of piedmont gold. (As is dancing queen, satisfaction, goodness gracious)

    my jcc faded away after I moved it while pg, dq and satisfaction ( I actually find all 3 to be rather vigorous) are doing well after being moved.

    It may be a weak cultivar.......

    The best thing to do is pot it up for a few months.

    I've saved quite a few weaklings this way.


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  • 8 years ago
    last modified: 8 years ago

    I've been growing JCC since 2013 and have found it to be a rather late emerger. It does respond well to more sunlight (I love how yellow it gets). I believe it needs more sun rather than less.

    I moved it once during the last five years (basically same sun exposure-sunup to about 1:30-2:00) It sunk a bit, the bed needed rearranging, etc. However, its leaves appear a bit more rippled in the current location or it could be just a characteristic of maturity.

    Growth: new - 1 shoot. Subsequent years as follows: 5/9/5/7/13. In 2016 it emerged with less, but fatter shoots.

    My observations in my garden over the years tell me that it prefers a shallower planting (as GE), can take lots of sun without burning, and is a rather late emerger. It came up just before my On Stage.. Hope this helps.

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  • 8 years ago

    Pictures say much more...

  • 8 years ago

    I hope my JCC will look some day as beautiful as your Jo. Now its tiny and I'm also wondering will it survive.


    Saija

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  • 8 years ago

    Threaten it with the driveway aka Ken's style, then give it lots of sun. :-). I don't think it will care whether it is recovering in a pot or the ground but moving it should benefit.

    linnea56 (zone 5b Chicago) thanked josephines167 z5 ON Canada
  • 8 years ago

    So yours is 5 years old, and it looks like it did much more in it's first 2 years than mine certainly has.


    I don't really HAVE a sunny spot to move it to, sadly. All I have is different levels and intervals of shade. I could maybe find a spot with a little more sun, but that's very subjective. I bought a garden light meter last year. Maybe this is a good time to use it. I did not get much use out of it last year, as it requires setting it up at dawn (shudder) and leaving it in place til dark.


    I just looked at it right now, and it is getting its direct sun for the day. Maybe 2 pm to 5 pm direct sun. The other hostas with gold parts are coloring up really nicely in that area (Dream Queen, Gold Standard, June).


    I think the first thing I will try is digging it up and replanting it shallower. I bought a second GE last fall, and kept the shallow planting in mind, and it is doing very well. Leaves are still small, but at least it has 14 of them. Whereas lazy 2+ year old Jimmy has only 2 unfurling so far. Both were 2 L pots.


    I really need gold for that spot. If Jimmy doesn't step up to the plate, I will (gasp) buy a gold aralia instead.

    .

  • 8 years ago

    take one.. dig it up ... throw it around the garden while cussing loudly ... take it to a sidewalk.. vigorously scrape its roots on the tarmac ... without doing significant damage ... while discussing who exactly is in charge around here ... [this is a bruce trick GRHS , his thought being that it stimulates release of growth hormones.. in regard to the threat to its life .....]


    repot ... water properly ... and give it some fert for a month ... i use a gal milk jug with heavily diluted water sol fert with every watering.. just so the water barely turns color ... [this is a chris trick and how i did seedlings in winter]


    it will either die .. and good riddance .. or it will go crazy with root growth ... replant it in early fall ... [this is kens wisdom] ....


    ken


    ps: i had problems under mature pines.. its like a desert under many ...



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  • 8 years ago

    Yeah, lazy Jimmy needs a talkin' to. Good news re GE! :-)

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  • 8 years ago

    It seems like every time I dig up a hosta, it explodes in
    growth. But the ones I have dug have been mostly because they got too big for
    the spot (the first ones I bought mostly). So I dug, divided, and replanted
    elsewhere. Then they expand like the blob trying to absorb more territory.
    Moved Francee just when pips were showing, then she doubled. I had to divide it
    AGAIN the next spring. Moved a big
    Frances Williams last spring, sawed it in half. Before the year ended I had to divide
    each half again.


    I wondered if the female named cultivars just respond to
    threats in this way. Paul’s Glory has sulked since I moved him and carved out
    his reverted eyes. Brother Stefan chose to die. I wonder about the best way to
    threaten Jimmy. Maybe I’ll dig him up and shove a breakfast sandwich at him.

  • 8 years ago

    treatment a la Ken. About 5-6 years old.

    Near the ditch.


    this what it looks when back road floods. We pump water out but it could be wet there for while.

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  • 8 years ago

    That is a b.e.a.u.t.i.f.u.l. (those periods of emphasis took time) Jimmy Crack Corn!!!! So that’s what mine should look like! Maybe I should remove a side piece and grow it on the northwest side...just to try to get the same leaf shape.


  • 8 years ago

    Just gorgeous! Those pie crust edges, and what color! How tall is yours, lindalana? It does not look tall.


    Which part of Ken's treatment did you do? The throwing it around and abuse I can do. I'm in the mood for that with any plant that fails to perform. I'll abuse lazy Sun Power at the same time. The TLC in a pot with fertilizer is less likely. With this heat wave, I have many perennials in pots (and not) I can't plant and have to care for.

  • 8 years ago

    Yes, it is not tall or vase like, I got Piedmont Gold last year and it is already showing height. As for treatment i got JCC for one area but it did not work so I dumped it behind the fence not giving it much thought...surprisingly it thrives there, even thought they were warning about JCC liking more dry environment...

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