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How many are enough?

8 years ago

I find myself asking how many citrus trees are enough, and should I stop planting citrus trees now that I have 9 growing in ground (7 varieties of Satsuma, a Meyers Lemon, and a Cara Cara Orange). The 3 mature Satsumas produce more fruit than I can give away most years,though it is still nice to have all 3 as it seems each year a different tree has the best tasting fruit. The other Satsumas were all planted for diversity, initially to get some early varieties to spread out the harvest season, then does anyone really have much of a reason to grow Cara Cara (my favorite type of Orange, perhaps I may get my first one off my 3rd year in ground tree this year). Then there is the love / hate relationship with the Meyers, which seems to require more care to succeed than all my other citrus combined, yet still it never seems happy, ....

Living on the 8b/9a line this will already be a lot to handle when the young ones mature, and I have to cover them for the occasional very hard freeze in the winter, typically once or twice every other year, last year we hit 14-15F 2 nights in a row, which was the coldest weather in this area in the last 30-40 years. Covering the three 10-15 ft tall mature Satsumas is a big job already, takes 2 or more people an hour or more per tree if the weather (wind) cooperates. Even though the smaller ones are only 5-7 feet tall, covering all 9 and, adding heating lamps, running extension cords, etc. is already an all day operation, particularly on those short winter days and I am not really sure who I will get to help with this in years to come....

Comments (19)

  • 8 years ago

    Ike

    You have enough trees unless you are missing a Meiwa kumquat. It takes me about a day to build my enclosures and about 3 hours to disassemble. They get built in fall and disassembled in spring. It is a lot of work. I used a 72 watt halogen bulb for my Fukushu and a Pelonis heater for my New Zealand lemonade tree. You could cut the Meyer down and replace with 8 more non-Meyers and cut down on the amount of time spent on your trees

    Steve

  • 8 years ago

    You have too many when you become disillusioned with the hobby because it's too much work. I have 20 in containers and more than once I asked myself if I have gone over board. That question only comes up when I have to move them inside. lol.

  • 8 years ago

    I have about 55 trees and 35 varieties. Now, I only want a few trees that are on my wish list that are hard to find. I have a number of duplicate trees that I should get rid of but somehow can't bring myself to throwing them on the compost pile.

  • 8 years ago
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    My list is too big

    Meiwa on kuharski

    5 seed grown Meiwa

    Fukushu on C35

    seed grown Fukushu in ground

    New Zealand lemonade on C35 in ground

    New Zealand lemonade on US897

    6 out of 11 in ground Hardy Chicago Kumquat trees survived last winter.

    Steve

  • 8 years ago

    The reason to grow Cara Cara orange is simply that it is the best orange I have ever eaten; between my house and my farms and other gardens I have about a dozen. The Meyer is really a teddy bear in the ground; the common answer to problems is simply lack of food; they are very heavy feeders. If you have grass under your Meyer, you have to feed it even more; because the grass steals the food.

  • 8 years ago

    Of course it is a matter of taste. For me, Cara Cara are OK. Mandarins are better.

  • 8 years ago
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    I think you’ve answered your own question. You have enough. HST, nobody ever tell me I have enough shoes!

  • 8 years ago

    Imelda told me the same thing on shoes

  • 8 years ago

    Vladimir - if you ever decide to ‘thin the herd’, please do not throw them in the compost pile! I’ll drove to MA and pick them up myself. I don’t know how you can manage 55 trees...

    PS: I agree, mandarins are the best

  • 8 years ago

    Alana, I will definitely let you know when the time comes to "thin the herd". You need to know that many are seedlings 2 or less years old.

    Where do you live?

    Wow, you must have the addiction as bad as I have.

  • 8 years ago

    I would say you have enough when you read this forum and don't come away thinking I really should get that, and that, and that....

    KC

  • 8 years ago

    Vlad,

    I only said and I believe Cara Cara to be the best orange on the planet; if you prefer mandarins, it is apples and oranges.

  • 8 years ago

    John, I stand corrected.

  • 8 years ago

    Steve, yes I am still missing kumquats, which I keep strongly considering planting, but don't generally consider them to munch when thinking about maintenance, upkeep, and effort to cover during hard freezes since they are generally consider as cold hardy as Owari Satsuma, though some data suggest otherwise see http://www.walterreeves.com/uploads/pdf/coldcitrus.pdf . Much the same goes when I consider adding Orange Frost or Arctic Frost (which should become available in Louisiana in the next year or so), as those I see mainly as backups in case of a devastating all time record freeze (current all time record is 13F set in the early 1940's, during a 10 year period that had multiple historic freezes which wiped out the citrus industry on the upper gulf coast, for the half century prior to those freezes there were tens of thousands of acres of citrus grown on the upper gulf coast, today commercial groves are generally limited to a few isolated coastal areas). One of the multi hundred acre Satsuma groves that was wiped out in this period was only about 5 miles south of my house.

  • 8 years ago

    Kumquats have problems on sour orange that usually lead to death. Their mistake in their rootstock choice. All the kumquats and hybrids need to be grafted to Poncirus Trifoliata or Flying dragon. They would have all survived. The others belonged on sour orange or PT/FD

  • 8 years ago

    I agree that root stock may have been a major factor, as to appropriate choice of root stock, I can tell you that Saxon Becnel a major citrus growing nursery with 2 locations, here in Louisiana and just across the state line in SE Texas ( where we typically have sand loam soil with a slightly acidic pH (mine runs about 5.7 -5.8) is now using C-22 for their preferred root stock for all limes and kumquats.

  • 8 years ago

    We have really gotten off topic. lol.

  • 8 years ago

    I think that is because we can;t deal with the pain of owning too many citrus trees.