motupeg, Don’t You consider the two above that I have the whole design dilemma about to be padded? Or do you just consider them upholstered?

Beautiful beds and beautiful nightstands, but not together.

BeverlyFLADeziner,

Yes that is the design Dilemma! Looking for a bed to go with the nightstands but not the typical easy French white cream looking bed that everyone would just pick out and say oh yeah these go together. Then it wouldn’t be a Design dilemma, It would be an easy Peezy pick up the French style bed. Looking for something beautiful something that goes but not the same old same old. I know tried-and-true works but there’s got to be something out there!

Ethan Allen has a variety of headboards to get you a look without the restrictive qualities of the beds you posted. Here is just one you might like with your chandelier.

Flo Mangan,
I like it! Can I put a couch at the end of this,it looks like I can! Or maybe chairs!

Flo Mangan,

I ask If i can put a couch or chairs at the end because the end of your bed is very plain so I thought we could dress it up. I don’t want a bench. The picture I provided Is an example of chairs at the end of the bed.

When i get back to my office, i will check out measurements and see what we can do with chairs. I have idea since you don’t need dresser. Bbl.

Tina, I try to bring my thoughts across in a way that is neither offensive, nor dictatorial. I try to be open and sensitive to the poster’s likes ( as opposed to my own ) . I try to keep the communication inclusive of all possibilities -various ways to approach things, and to not be too finite or declarative with my opinions, because I am not a PRO. That said , I guess sometimes it is better to be more direct ! That is the latitude I feel a PRO has - but, most Houzzers are here just trying to offer up ideas in a helpful , friendly , inter-connected exchange of opinions. When I posted, there was not much info. to go on re. your style preferences, your goal, your home’s style , your room , ceiling height, colors .... So, in trying to answer your initial question( how do designers know.... ) in my first post I suggested you think about FINISHES . I then looked at the beds you liked and tried to draw from the elements they had, ( headboard, footboard, side panels, something not run- of-the mill or trendy, wood trim , curves ) while changing the finish to something I felt was more compatable with the things you already have - a grayish tone distressed piece and a light chandelier. That is why I posted what I did and why it is the same feel but diff. finish as the beds you pictured . Yes, bed#2 is very much like what you pictured ! That was intentional ! Now that you are progressing, it also happens to be the same finish and similar style that Flo posted, which you are liking ! So why call me out on that in such a confrontational way ?! BTW, I happen to like eclectic rooms ,also . That is why in my 2nd post I tried to reassure you that everything does not have to be matchy, matchy all the time. You responded to that in a very patronizing way. Finally, I was the only person you asked, “ So why don’t you like any of my choices?”. Ludicrous !- Read back to my post - “..... love your chandelier and nightstand “ - “I like both of those beds- very pretty.”- “... again, they are beautiful beds... “. To others, I apologize for being so wordy in responding to the question I was asked by Tina . I guess I felt that I wanted to respond thoroughly to what felt like a firing squad descending upon me ( and some others, for that matter ) when I was just trying to offer some suggestions with very little info. on which to go. I’ll likely wait longer in the future.LOL - sometimes ,I guess ,”no good deed goes unpunished.”——- I am happy the thread is moving in a more productive direction . For that reason I hated to interject my response at this point, but just felt compelled to do so . Best of luck, Tina. You will finally have the bedroom of your dreams in what appears to be a beautiful home.

Tina-

After seeing the photos of your home and the design selections you put into it- it’s no wonder the designer you hired just watched you select things. She probably realized that you had better taste than she did.

niccidhg, You are reading me all wrong . First off I respond to everybody who takes the time to answer me because I respect their time, bottom line. I want them to know that I took the time to read their post. Now don’t get me wrong sometimes they come in a bunch at a time and someone gets skipped in the chain, but I want everyone to know that They took the time to write I definitely read it. No Firing squad here, Just me a Layman, really asking everyone’s opinion. Secondly, I asked you “why don’t you like any of the ones I picked because I honestly want your opinion. You may say hey that nail head detail doesn’t really go with the French style nightstand so that’s why I picked the second bed for you, Or whatever your answer maybe but I wanted To hear from you, I wanted your opinion. Because that is honestly how I learned to decorate from this site and a couple other blog sites. By reading what others write by getting their opinion and their feedback.

Molly D, thank you that is what my husband said, but he has to say things like that to me. I have a little bit of an eye but fall very short with symmetry and proportions, but I’m working on it. Thank goodness for Houzz and Pinterest I would be nothing without them, oh yeah and Joanna Gaines!!

I did a quick scale sketch of your bedroom assuming the 14’ was the width and 16.5 the length. With a standard king size bed you would have room for chairs (32x32”) at end of bed or on wall angled toward each other across from bed. Assuming a headboard of about 6” depth. You need 3’ of space to walk by chairs. You could also but a nice settee instead of chairs. Lots to choose from. Arhaus has a couple nice love seats but you would have to special order.

Flo Mangan, ooh-ah love number three but I would remove the pillows.

Which do you like best?

Flo Mangan, Thank you for that sketch on proper proportion and scale!! I know how important that is to design, and I cannot do that myself.

The spindle chairs typically ate quite deep so their scale would not work. The settee has traditional legs so i prefer the more French settee for your space. First nail down headboard and fabric you want for it. Next, find chairs with complimentary fabric or settee. You can mix different black and white patterns as long as the scale of each is quite different. Like 2x one versus another. Harder to get chairs and/or settee so i always work from hardest to easy. Fabrics are king. So find fabrics you like because that will help you set tone for your room. You could use plain solid fabrics for a more monochromatic look and patterns for more drama. Any preference?

Flo Mangan, you are on it! I was just looking at the dimensions for the spindle chairs and they are 35” and you said only 32” would work. As for fabric, I wallpapered my 1/2 bath pictured below. ( I love my little bathroom) I would love to find big floral print just like it, otherwise I seem to only like plan fabric.

Here is a settee/love seat i saw at Arhaus early this year. I loved the fabric. I thought you might like it.

Love, Love, Love your "little bathroom". Beautiful, daring and unique! You have the "touch"! I have done a black and white living room, dining room, and master bedroom in the last 6 months! So you are going to love your bedroom. You might want to consider painting the long wall behind the bed black! Very dramatic and wonderful in a master bedroom. This is a bachelor's bedroom I did. Just posting to show you how we did some small family photos in a dramatic wide white mat with narrow black frames. I love that technique too.

Flo Mangan, very handsome well done! Love the photos perfect placement!! Well as you know I’m struggling with this bedroom and I’m purposely starting with this room, because you probably know the drill mommy’s room either never happens or it is last. Anyways, perhaps you can post a bit about lines/styles so I can understand why my beds don’t work but others do. I know it would help me understand design better and probably help others who are reading this post? Thoughts......❤️

Tina, your powder room is fabulous! Making me want to change the wallpaper on mine!

RM, Thank you! My builder questioned me a bit on it, because it was so dark. But I knew it was gonna be perfect in that small space. Now they actually didn’t center my light right, And the wallpaper was already put up so for a workaround I came up with putting that piece of wood behind the light but I think it makes it look neat like rustic chic.

I wondered about that wood. I think I would paint it flat black so it kind of disappears. This is a "chic" bathroom. No rustic needed! As to your question, I can tell you a couple of things about putting different styles together. They have to "relate" on some level. So, for example, your headboard needs some tones similar to the night stands or accent highlights or just plain coloring. The night stands have enough detail so headboard doesn't need much. The one I posted with the high carved look but all upholstered headboard keeps it simple so the night stands can be a bit more of a focus. Then the bedding can bring things together as well. Since your night stands have a soft blue/green tone (at least on my monitor) with some/metallic highlighting, some of your bed pillows could bring that tone in. You black can come in with your chairs and/or love seat. Depending on what you put on the wall opposite your bed (TV? over console?) or (art?) that will drive other furnishing types. You might want a floor lamp with a beefy black post and shade. But lamps are "accessories" and they come last. As to "lines", I find things in all lines, just depends on what you are going for. I have some favorites, but again, budget and your personal preferences drive those elements. Art is especially personal.

Here is example. They both have black, but the top one is decidedly sleek and more modern and the lower one is more traditional and kind of "transitional" in look. Even though you have the French thing going, of these two I would select the top one or one like it. Can you tell why?

*curved lines of headboard not carved. Auto correct.

Flo Mangan, I think you would pick the top one of the two lamps because it just appears to look more French than the other. At first glance I thought 1 is modern and one is traditional. But a closer look shows that the top one is actually more of a French style.

Flo Mangan, Also I think that metallic lamp would pick up some of the metallic in the nightstand.

Yes, the top one brings in black shade and has gold foil liner. The lines are somewhat Art Nouveau for a touch of French. I also like a bit of surprise in a room. Like your powder room wallpaper. I love unexpected but wonderful touches make homes so much more fun and interesting. Do you have any thoughts on chairs versus a love seat? Will there be a TV in the master?

Flo Mangan
I like both the idea of chairs or a love seat. I will heed your advice and look for dimensions first so it will fit properly. Yes I have a space all wired on the wall for the TV to hang, I would like something slim underneath it though for looks . What do you think of this look. My colors will be Black White Blue ( not sure of the shade of blue I will do some French research)and the Metallic you mentioned, great idea by the way!

Here are some chair and sofa ideas, I would do the fabric in black and white.

This would be nice as well with some type of metallic style table

OK, I think some blue (not robins egg) but a more gray blue (French blue) in the bedding would be nice, but we have to be careful of the black. I have to think about that a bit. Also, if there is going to be a TV on the wall opposite the foot of the bed, how do you see yourselves watching TV? My guess, while propped up in bed with the kiddo wedged in the bed too? If that is the case, then chairs might be more comfortable and versatile at the foot of the bed. They will be very close to the TV. When seated you will be approximately 6' from the TV which isn't far for good TV watching. From the bed, the distance would be about right - approx. 12'. As to the bed you posted, you really are drawn to the "sleigh" type beds. They take up lengthwise about another foot of length, so if you do that type, you would only be able to put a bench at the foot of the bed. Love seats are around 33-36" deep or more. Chairs you can get more compact like barrel chairs are around 30-33" deep. Part of the reason I selected a headboard and no footboard (aside from hating hitting my feet on the darn things and breaking nails making the bed!) is because they take up so much more room. So, this is an important factor in considering beds and seating in your master. If your room was larger, you could do a seating arrangement for TV watching, but it is only 14' wide. That is a nice size, but somewhat limiting.

Your latest photos posted while I was composing the above post. Yes, that chair you posted would be of a size that could work. Not real comfy, but just depends on how you see yourselves using those chairs. The sofa/loveseats will be too deep, the range from 38" deep to 44" deep. Not enough room IMO. Nice choices though. I was wondering if we might be able to do a bracket for the TV that turns to the door wall side of the room and place a settee/love seat about 2-3' in front of the door wall? Even two chairs there with your smaller round tables would work well.

Slipper chairs (like the tufted, slipper chairs above) men won't sit in. They are want arms. So, overstuffed chairs might need to be selected very carefully. They are nice in a bedroom, if you are using them just to sit for 5-10 minutes to tie shoes, or sip a tea, coffee or adult beverage but not for really relaxing.

Colors like this!

Is that your pitcher? It is gorgeous! I love those deep cobalt colors.

“My guess, while propped up in bed with the kiddo wedged in the bed too”. Lol right on again... that is exactly how we watch TV. The furniture at the end is really just a place to remove shoes and throw stuff on when we enter the room. Yes it appears I’m definitely drawn to that style. I can’t seem to get away from it. I can get it with no foot board, they have that option. So if I get the sleigh bed without the foot board, do they still take up extra space?

No, not mine I wish what a find that would be. Just a photo I saved because I was drawn to the colors.

The footboard takes up about 6-8”. The headboard about 6-8” depending on style. So i would do the footless style and two small scale chairs that have kid proof fabrics. Arhaus has some good kid proof fabrics but they are plain mainly. There is a good fabric protector called Bates that you can spray on most fabrics to protect. It is a bit hard to find. It is backordered on Amazon because i need some. Lol. Waiting! Lol

I saw that you're adding a TV to the BR.

Do you like this idea? TV is behind fabric hung on a rod.

leelee, That is a beautiful idea priceless!! Love it

leelee, Not to mention what a great way to introduce fabric into a bedroom to make that wall even softer! I love a soft bedroom.

Great! Hope you can use it and show us a picture when finished. I love the lightness of the fabric, part is almost like a voile with middle being thicker to hide the TV

I also like that console table but not sure about what components you will need to hide? Love having a novel way to hide TV. Not sure about sliding large textile back and forth? Would two panels work better so when open they would frame TV? Easier to manage moving when opening or closing?

Yes, I thought of two panels also and it would be easier to work with.

I like the simpler one

Your bedding and headboard will be the main "fabric" hits. Have you explored the TV pop up furniture units? they are pricey but so nice to completely hide TV and use remote from bed, to lift TV and voila! Best of both worlds. There is one that I have used that is unfinished and my client painted hers black (satin finish) for the living room/family room. If you are interested, you can google it or I can hunt up a photo.

Found this one and it was less than the unfinished model and it has the "quick lift" which is nice. And it's black!

You can find them in any finish however, so this could be an option. I worry a bit about doing both chairs at the foot of the bed and TV/console on opposite wall. Might be cramped.

The rings on the fabric panel shown look like they would slide easily. I am afraid that two panels will result in the center point not looking that nice when closed...sort of like one just having draperies hung on the wall. In the past, I have attached a clear acrylic rod (like those that come with mini-blinds) to the back side of a drapery panel so I am not grabbing the fabric each time I open and close.

Flo Mangan, I don’t want to do a pop up TV only because I’ve already paid to have everything wired on the wall. I will not need a cable box or anything because it will all come from the wall don’t ask me how they do it but somehow they did it! I guess cable boxes will be a thing of the past. And also since flat TVs have terrible sound I even wired the speaker above in the ceiling.

Ok So it’s back to the drawing board except for the light fixture and the nightstands. I have a picture of the couch even though I know it has to be 33 inches at the most in depth. And I get that it may not work at all. But I’m learning that design is definitely a process!! Nothing happens overnight. I’ll lay out the room with painters tape and see how everything works. That way I’ll be able to truly figure out if I should get the footboard or not. What do you think of my French colors? I like them, I did some research and I know that French colors are mostly soft pastels. However, my goal will be to use these unexpected French colors in darker Hughes.